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I’m curious to hear your thoughts on this?
Yes big difference.He is not a security guard though, he is a sheriff's deputy which makes it all the more shameful.
I would think that the problems with the program they were running will be forefront in his defense strategy. Perhaps he is the fall guy. He still should have done his duty. You are right about the SCOTUS ruling which is why I don't depend on the cops for my safety.Yes big difference.
I think he will get off eventually the supreme court has ruled that the police have no obligation to protect anyone.
I'm surprised about the charges to me it seems like to little to late.
The fbi and the sheriff's department had a chance to defuse it before it happened and didn't is a worse problem than a coward with a badge.
Yes big difference.
I think he will get off eventually the supreme court has ruled that the police have no obligation to protect anyone.
I'm surprised about the charges to me it seems like to little to late.
The fbi and the sheriff's department had a chance to defuse it before it happened and didn't is a worse problem than a coward with a badge.
This definitely isn't going to address the real issues, HOWEVER, he failed to do his job as a law enforcement officer, and I think the issue in HIS specific case is that his job is to prevent these things or stop it in its tracks if it happens. Instead of sending in the rest of his officers, or going in himself, either of which could've stopped it before the body count went up, he just stood there and hid like a giant wuss, let this kid massacre people and escape.i read that yesterday. another one was fired. they should face whatever the legal consequences are but let's be real, they probably never expected to be single-handedly defending an entire school from an out of control shooter. we're still not addressing the real and bigger problems of lack of responsible gun laws and lack of accessible mental health safety nets
We should remove the licenses and severely fine gun shop owners who sell guns to people who go on to commit murder or other crimes with that gun.
Bartenders and restaurants are accountable if they over serve someone who then goes out and commits a DWI and kills someone. We hold liquor store and grocery people accountable for selling liquor to underage kids and already intoxicated people. They are fined and lose their licenses and jobs.
Let's hold the gun shop owners accountable for selling to killers.
I but they would be a lot more careful if that were the law.
This definitely isn't going to address the real issues, HOWEVER, he failed to do his job as a law enforcement officer, and I think the issue in HIS specific case is that his job is to prevent these things or stop it in its tracks if it happens. Instead of sending in the rest of his officers, or going in himself, either of which could've stopped it before the body count went up, he just stood there and hid like a giant wuss, let this kid massacre people and escape.
It's not even a matter of bravery--he failed to do his job. If he's too scared to do that job, he shouldn't be in it to begin with! The side effect of law enforcement and military roles are the potential for getting injured or killed by a suspect. What if he'd done what he signed up to do? How many of those kids would never have been killed.he should face his consequences, but i would hate for anyone to think if we just had braver police/security guards that would solve the issue.
It's not even a matter of bravery--he failed to do his job. If he's too scared to do that job, he shouldn't be in it to begin with! The side effect of law enforcement and military roles are the potential for getting injured or killed by a suspect. What if he'd done what he signed up to do? How many of those kids would never have been killed.
This just further proves to me that we need military personnel stationed at each school. They ARE obligated to protect the citizens of this nation. Place two to three Soldiers or Marines at each school, make the assignments two weeks long so that they don’t get bored, make it an obligation for everyone in the military, boom..done. Good luck shooter...
I really want this. If we aren’t taking the guns off the streets and if our schools are going to remain WIDE OPEN, something needs to be done.
As far as this cop goes, he is a total coward. He’s probably justifying his actions to himself in his coward head that if he would have ran into that school he would have been dead and would have made no difference. Therefore, I believe he deserves punishment.
Why not reduce the availability of guns rather than risking further lives?
I don't agree it's the military's job to babysit schools. Fix the problem, don't just pass the buck...
Sometimes we have to work within the parameters we have. Unfortunately, I don't see the gun problem being solved anytime soon in the USA. Some people here feel it is their g-d given right to be armed. I don't agree but I am clearly not in power. So we have to work with what we have until we can get guns off the streets. We have to do something to save lives because clearly what we are doing isn't working.
I get the desire but do you remember what it was like when the military was in airports after 9/11? I personally found it more sad and intimidating than reassuring. I think if this happens it's a turning point for our country and not a good one.
Sometimes we have to work within the parameters we have. Unfortunately, I don't see the gun problem being solved anytime soon in the USA. Some people here feel it is their g-d given right to be armed. I don't agree but I am clearly not in power. So we have to work with what we have until we can get guns off the streets. We have to do something to save lives because clearly what we are doing isn't working.
Nicolas Cruz legally bought a weapon and used it for its intended purpose: to efficiently kill many people in a short amount of time with little to no training required. It took 6 minutes to kill 17 people. To think that an SRO could somehow save the day without causing further harm or getting himself killed is a fantasy. I guess many of you would feel better if the SRO died trying. Not me. I'm glad one fewer person got killed that day.
I get the desire but do you remember what it was like when the military was in airports after 9/11? I personally found it more sad and intimidating than reassuring. I think if this happens it's a turning point for our country and not a good one.
People felt this way in Australia too. And here in Canada. But if enough people get out and vote, and vote for people who are willing to take a stand on this issue even if it will not be popular among a section of society, then it can be possible. Yes, it's more difficult with your Second Amendment and the Supreme Court now being so right leaning. So you may need to keep voting and voting and voting, at every single level of government (and fundraise and donate just as much money if not more than the NRA and those who will oppose you) until the balance swings again, but I think this is the only path forward that you have. In all honesty, it's what the pro-life people have done. Pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed and never taken their eye off the political ball, and now they may be in a position to make the legislative changes that they have wanted since 1973. It's also what women's rights activities and civil rights activists and LGBTQ rights activists have done (think of how many decades it took to get gay marriage legal in the US, and yet here we are....). I just think enough people need to become determined enough and patient enough and persistent enough for change to eventually come.
As I sit here at my desk on one of the last days of school I am grateful that we DON'T have armed militia guarding the place. I would quit and do something else if it ever comes to that. Do those who suggest this work in a place that is monitored like that? You can have it.
Nicolas Cruz legally bought a weapon and used it for its intended purpose: to efficiently kill many people in a short amount of time with little to no training required. It took 6 minutes to kill 17 people. To think that an SRO could somehow save the day without causing further harm or getting himself killed is a fantasy. I guess many of you would feel better if the SRO died trying. Not me. I'm glad one fewer person got killed that day.