that omc

[Cehrabehra]

I think I''m going to return the stone... maybe... I feel like I''ve been on a roller coaster... the stone is gorgeous and beyond what I''d hoped for... but I don''t know if I''m in love with *this* stone or just diamonds in general

I''ve never owned a large diamond... I''ve seen a lot but not at home in so many light environments... I really don''t know if this is doing just average stuff or if it is truly exceptional. I see rainbows in every light environment... except in the dark LOL

One thing, because there are a few very tiny thin pavillion facets, I do get some ''princess'' effect... those little tiny rainbows of glitter that are way prettier than I''d ever seen before, maybe that''s the difference between a well cut stone and the crap princesses I''ve seen... of course this is a lot deeper so I can definitely see why a princess needs to be fairly shallow so that those little sparklies are closer to the surface and I can also see why a large table is good for them. And if a cutter gave me a stone that had four thin princessy pavillion facets I think I''d actually enjoy that, what gets me is that the NS pav facets and the EW ones are not the same size... I was looking forward to a "cross" rather than bow tie...

what gets to me or bugs me is that when you have a long stone they make the side facets so much larger... IMO and of course just MO, they should make the four NSEW facets the same size on *any* length ratio and just move the corner facets more into the length rather than trying to keep them centered on the corners. That is why I stopped wanting an oval... because they don''t space the facets like they do on a round... the edges are like a round with a huge gap in the middle...

... now on this stone the huge gap is the part I love, I just want at least four of them or eight of them LOL I just don''t even know if what I want exists and it''s hard for me to turn away this stone it''s freaking *gorgeous* and when I woke up this am I opened the box by my bed and was so blown away by its beauty... but then I think of the price and how I can''t have any regrets... I''m not upgrading and I start feeling a fear of commitment to this stone. not a lack of love, but just... is there something closer out there?

thoughts?

 

[upgrading mama]

I think that it is very hard to decide, especially when you always wonder what else there might be out there. But ultimately, you have to take the plunge and choose one. I personally would LOVE an OMC and if it is sparkling oh so much as you have described, than why would you return it???


Could you possibly take some pics to share with us?

 

[mrssalvo]

Date: 8/31/2006 3:34:07 PM
Author: Sophie

Could you possibly take some pics to share with us?

sophie,

2 pages of pics here

ETA: cehra, just for future reference it might be easier to just add on to your current thread. it will help avoid confusion for those trying to follow if everything on this stone you're looking at is in one thread

 

[Rod]

Well you know what I think Cehra, but as I mentioned, who cares what I or anyone else thinks. You have to do what feels best to you. I just hope you aren''t thinking there''s something just a little more this or that, just around the corner. If you will have no regrets over sending the stone back, then you''re likely doing the right thing. If you will have regrets, that''s something else..................

 

[BlueKeet]

I think the stone is gorgeous, but if you are looking for the even cross in the middle it sounds like you need to find a stone that is more square. I can see why you would want the OMC cross to stand out as it is striking - I love the feature. Just go with your gut. Is this the perfect rock or would you just keep looking for something else if you kept it?

This OMC has the cross, but it is pretty square and it sounds like you like the more oval shapes. I would love to have the OMC shown here - the closeups of the loose stone are great and first picture of a set OMC is nice too.
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/modern-cushion-vs-antique-cushion.23890/page-2

 

[Mara]

cehra did you want a rectangular ovaley cushion??

i don't know if it's just me, but i don't love the pictures of this cushion as much as i have of fata's cushion which is just to me the pinnacle of all cushions. i also like a little more squarish cushions, not SO rectangular (and this one almost looks ovalish to me)...but that's just a preference thing.

i know it's super hard to find a great cushion though..and you know what they say about a bird in the hand...is there a way you can hang onto this and keep looking? what is the return policy?

 

[FireGoddess]

Date: 8/31/2006 3:57:21 PM
Author: Mara
i don''t know if it''s just me, but i don''t love the pictures of this cushion as much as i have of fata''s cushion which is just to me the pinnacle of all cushions. i also like a little more squarish cushions, not SO rectangular (and this one almost looks ovalish to me)...but that''s just a preference thing.

It''s not just you Mara - something about the oval nature of this cushion does not do it for me. It''s a pretty stone, but it''s not what I come to dream about when I think of cushions (something like fatafelice''s).

If the return policy is decent you may want to hang on to the stone and do some searching, as suggested.

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 8/31/2006 3:34:07 PM
Author: Sophie
I think that it is very hard to decide, especially when you always wonder what else there might be out there. But ultimately, you have to take the plunge and choose one. I personally would LOVE an OMC and if it is sparkling oh so much as you have described, than why would you return it???


Could you possibly take some pics to share with us?

It is gorgeous and it is an OMC but it doesn''t look like any OMC I''ve ever seen! Which makes it kinda fun in a special way too but... we''ll see, I have some time...

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 8/31/2006 3:39:35 PM
Author: mrssalvo

Date: 8/31/2006 3:34:07 PM
Author: Sophie

Could you possibly take some pics to share with us?

sophie,

2 pages of pics here

ETA: cehra, just for future reference it might be easier to just add on to your current thread. it will help avoid confusion for those trying to follow if everything on this stone you''re looking at is in one thread

ahhh yes... I wanted to talk and I thought it would be lost in the pics.

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 8/31/2006 3:57:21 PM
Author: Mara
cehra did you want a rectangular ovaley cushion??

i don''t know if it''s just me, but i don''t love the pictures of this cushion as much as i have of fata''s cushion which is just to me the pinnacle of all cushions. i also like a little more squarish cushions, not SO rectangular (and this one almost looks ovalish to me)...but that''s just a preference thing.

i know it''s super hard to find a great cushion though..and you know what they say about a bird in the hand...is there a way you can hang onto this and keep looking? what is the return policy?

Yes, i did want a long stone... this might be a tad on the long side... this is 1.26, albiocca''s is 1.20, fata''s is 1.05. Fata''s cushion is the exact same cut as mine but on a square stone... where the corners are slim and the NSEW facets are fat... What I originally wanted was something more like hest88''s stone... where all 8 are uniformly spaced. But now when I see what the thin facets do in the way of those tiny sparkles I''m not sure what to do... I know I don''t want a stone that only sparkles that way ala princess, but it''s fun having both... and since my stone IS so long, those two facets on either side are HUGE! and put off enormous rainbows which is what I wanted. The length might be a tad long contributing to the oval look... but since I came here originally to get an oval that doesn''t offend me. 1.15 might be a good ratio...

Yeah I can hang onto this for a while... I don''t have to make a decision today, but I''m so diamond ignorant as far as knowing what I should be seeing in the home rather than just looking at them under jewelry lights... I have diamonds... I have small diamonds and they''re all very white but they definitely do NOT sparkle like this ring does... this ring is like insane! But maybe that''s just average for a well cut larger stone. I have no clue! Is it?

 

[FireGoddess]

Forget that stuff I said earlier...I went back and looked at your pictures again...that picture of this stone where it looks AMBER...forgettaboutit. It''s GORGEOUS. And the hand shots that follow? This stone is a GREAT omc on the long side. It''s a winner. If this is the length and proportion of stone you were looking for, you may not find better than this.

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 8/31/2006 8:06:26 PM
Author: FireGoddess
Forget that stuff I said earlier...I went back and looked at your pictures again...that picture of this stone where it looks AMBER...forgettaboutit. It''s GORGEOUS. And the hand shots that follow? This stone is a GREAT omc on the long side. It''s a winner. If this is the length and proportion of stone you were looking for, you may not find better than this.

It''s funny, at first I was saying I wanted a 1.3-1.5 ratio! This is ''only'' a 1.26!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Date: 8/31/2006 3:48:41 PM
Author: BlueKeet
I think the stone is gorgeous, but if you are looking for the even cross in the middle it sounds like you need to find a stone that is more square. I can see why you would want the OMC cross to stand out as it is striking - I love the feature. Just go with your gut. Is this the perfect rock or would you just keep looking for something else if you kept it?

This OMC has the cross, but it is pretty square and it sounds like you like the more oval shapes. I would love to have the OMC shown here - the closeups of the loose stone are great and first picture of a set OMC is nice too.
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/modern-cushion-vs-antique-cushion.23890/page-2

Oh my gosh. I really want one of these! I read through that thread but Antique Diamond-Gem never revealed the source of this diamond.

 

[mia15]

I''d replied to your other thread and then just saw this.

No, I wouldn''t say it''s a given that a large well-cut diamond sparkles, as you describe it, insanely. That''s definitely something special.

But I understand wanting something specific, and I believe in going after it, especially if you''re not the obsessive and indecisive type (not that there''s anything with obsession or indecision

) I guess the main thing I wonder is, are you comfortable with the amount of time it may take to locate what you''re looking for? Because things will get a little crazy around the holidays, too.

In the end, you have love it! I won''t say you can''t have any reservations, but they have to not matter because you love it!

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 8/31/2006 9:31:11 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006

Date: 8/31/2006 3:48:41 PM
Author: BlueKeet
I think the stone is gorgeous, but if you are looking for the even cross in the middle it sounds like you need to find a stone that is more square. I can see why you would want the OMC cross to stand out as it is striking - I love the feature. Just go with your gut. Is this the perfect rock or would you just keep looking for something else if you kept it?

This OMC has the cross, but it is pretty square and it sounds like you like the more oval shapes. I would love to have the OMC shown here - the closeups of the loose stone are great and first picture of a set OMC is nice too.
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/modern-cushion-vs-antique-cushion.23890/page-2

Oh my gosh. I really want one of these! I read through that thread but Antique Diamond-Gem never revealed the source of this diamond.

in my fancy guru thread he told us that he cut it

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 8/31/2006 9:52:28 PM
Author: emeraldlover
I''d replied to your other thread and then just saw this.

No, I wouldn''t say it''s a given that a large well-cut diamond sparkles, as you describe it, insanely. That''s definitely something special.

But I understand wanting something specific, and I believe in going after it, especially if you''re not the obsessive and indecisive type (not that there''s anything with obsession or indecision

) I guess the main thing I wonder is, are you comfortable with the amount of time it may take to locate what you''re looking for? Because things will get a little crazy around the holidays, too.

In the end, you have love it! I won''t say you can''t have any reservations, but they have to not matter because you love it!

funny you mention the time thing... when I bought this he said well hurry up and get it in a setting because I want my wife back! Apparently he thinks he''s a diamond widower!!!! lmao!! he says it with humor though... and he''s gone for the weekend so I have a few more days to obsess... don''t mind me

 

[mia15]

Oh, these poor diamond widowers...my fiance is one too, but he seems to be developing an interest on his own and I''m not discouraging that!

Well, when I''m trying to decide between something fantastic and better I find it helpful to forget about the subject (hard, I know), come back to it and think about it some more, and repeat. Good luck!

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 8/31/2006 10:19:18 PM
Author: emeraldlover
Oh, these poor diamond widowers...my fiance is one too, but he seems to be developing an interest on his own and I''m not discouraging that!

Well, when I''m trying to decide between something fantastic and better I find it helpful to forget about the subject (hard, I know), come back to it and think about it some more, and repeat. Good luck!

its funny because this is how it goes... I stay away from the ring a while, I look at it and I''m in love... the more I look at it the more I criticize it and the more I question it... finally I get to the point I have to put it away and then I look at it again later and I''m in love again... last night I went to bed thinking, not gonna happen... woke up this am and whoosh! its gorgeous!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Date: 8/31/2006 10:07:37 PM
Author: Cehrabehra

Date: 8/31/2006 9:31:11 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006

Date: 8/31/2006 3:48:41 PM
Author: BlueKeet
I think the stone is gorgeous, but if you are looking for the even cross in the middle it sounds like you need to find a stone that is more square. I can see why you would want the OMC cross to stand out as it is striking - I love the feature. Just go with your gut. Is this the perfect rock or would you just keep looking for something else if you kept it?

This OMC has the cross, but it is pretty square and it sounds like you like the more oval shapes. I would love to have the OMC shown here - the closeups of the loose stone are great and first picture of a set OMC is nice too.
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/modern-cushion-vs-antique-cushion.23890/page-2

Oh my gosh. I really want one of these! I read through that thread but Antique Diamond-Gem never revealed the source of this diamond.

in my fancy guru thread he told us that he cut it

Hmmm, well I want one of those!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Oh, football season is starting so they won''t even notice we''re on the computer!

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 9/1/2006 12:03:10 AM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Oh, football season is starting so they won''t even notice we''re on the computer!

No such luck here... he''s not into sports at all... he''s a techno geek engineer but hey, at least we don''t fight over the computer! we have more computers than people and ::cough:: there''s 5 of us!

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 9/1/2006 12:01:35 AM
Author: diamondseeker2006

Date: 8/31/2006 10:07:37 PM
Author: Cehrabehra

Date: 8/31/2006 9:31:11 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006


Oh my gosh. I really want one of these! I read through that thread but Antique Diamond-Gem never revealed the source of this diamond.

in my fancy guru thread he told us that he cut it

Hmmm, well I want one of those!

Yeah so did I, so do I... but alas I don''t know if I can get it... and I''d have to give up the princessy things... hey! I could just get two stones! one of each - one of the DG OMCs and a princess cut LMAO! Do they make settings for two stones that don''t match?

 

[Mara]

cehra...i know you said you haven''t seen a ton of diamonds but if this stone is as amazing in person as you say it is, then i see a win win situation...!!! they say your eyes are the way to go with fancies...and these chunky cushions are definitely seeing is believing kind of thing. i''d hang onto it and keep looking but it sounds like you really love the way the stone looks and performs and THAT is what is important!

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 9/1/2006 12:55:48 AM
Author: Mara
cehra...i know you said you haven''t seen a ton of diamonds but if this stone is as amazing in person as you say it is, then i see a win win situation...!!! they say your eyes are the way to go with fancies...and these chunky cushions are definitely seeing is believing kind of thing. i''d hang onto it and keep looking but it sounds like you really love the way the stone looks and performs and THAT is what is important!

Thank you mara... I am going to hold onto it for a while... but the antique guy who had surgery should be back I think this week and the kids are in school next so guess what I''m going to do next week every spare minute? youbetcha! And he''s located in our little tiny diamond district (it''s a building I think lol) so I''ll just go around and compare things... then I''ll know. But I think you know how impatient I am by now and that''s DAYS away! lmao!!!!!!

For all I know this could be a very average diamond... I''ve never seen sparkles like those, I mean colored sparkles... but I would expect they''re the norm. My earrings are just white blobs and I know many stones are like that but of the well cut stones I just assume they all do this. I''m just more convinced than ever that I need a ring the price of a minivan on my finger ROFL!!!!

 

[Stone Hunter]

Cehra

I have decided that I love my car and won''t be needing a new one for at least 7 years. So no need to spend money on cars. That means the money should be spent on a diamond.

I totally get the minivan on the finger thing. After all minivans aren''t really that attractive who needs one.

 

[Mara]

well i think of it this way.

sure all well-cut diamonds are going to look amazing. but each one has it's own personality still. i have owned a few well-cut rounds and they all looked stunning but each one had a different LOOK somehow than the last one. i am pretty flexible so as long as i like the look then i don't feel like i need to see others to compare the look to. also of course i know each diamond is not necessarily my LAST so i don't feel this driving urge to make it be the end all to be all forever and ever kind of thing. if it's pretty, i love it. all that matters is if i love it, it sparkles, looks good on my hands, and has specs that satisfy my mind-clean requirement.

but i would imagine that for something like a cushion it would be even more amazing to see a well-cut stone sparkle. i don't think that all well-cut cushions would sparkle the same, just like rounds don't necessarily, and there are tiny nuances in the cushion facets that are going to lead to one sparkle or another...i guess the bottom line is...sure all well-cut cushions or diamonds may sparkle but do you like THIS cushions sparkles and how it throws them off, how it looks in various lighting. because you will not just go out and find another cushion with similar specs to this one that will look THE SAME. it will have it's own personality even if the specs are almost spot on the same from a cert. my old 1.6c J and my other ideal 1.29 H i had, had really similar specs, almost spot on the same, but they looked different to my eyes. different personalities.

so i can understand you're not sure what else is out there or if this is the norm or not but i just wanted to say that to find one stone and then find another that is similar spec wise, and have them be the same is NOT going to happen most likely. you could find one you liked BETTER sure, but the specs may not be even close to this one...it just depends. so in the end how it looks is how you wear it and no it's not the NORM imo to find a performer that you adore and find another one in a week or two. but you never know!

 

[Cehrabehra]

Just looking around I found this stone... it is on GOG and it has the EXACT cut of mine... the ratio is just eversoslightly less at 1.21:1 vs my 1.26:1.
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2172/
I mention it because for anyone interested they have gem advisor (eta) images of the stone... though I'm sure most of you have gotten bored from this thread already! lol

 

[Stone Hunter]

I''m not bored of this thread yet. I''m enjoying your cushion hunt and want you to get something you love.

The one you just posted from GOG is not as rectangular and so I don''t like it as much as the one you have now. I also like your facets better.

What do you think?

 

[Cehrabehra]

Date: 9/2/2006 3:19:42 PM
Author: Stone Hunter
I''m not bored of this thread yet. I''m enjoying your cushion hunt and want you to get something you love.

The one you just posted from GOG is not as rectangular and so I don''t like it as much as the one you have now. I also like your facets better.

What do you think?

actually the one from GOG IS as rectangular... the difference is .05:1 LOL They''re nearly identical in proportion. the difference is that ''my'' stone is a full carat larger...

but I''m pretty sure not going to keep this stone. I love the length, I love the size, I love the shape... but I don''t think I''ll ever find the performance I want from a long stone, I''m sad to say. I love the way those large facets throw rainbows but that is only *one* thing I want from a diamond. As superficial as it seems, I cannot ignore just the basic look... and while I like the long silouette, that wide band bugs the hell out of me. It isn''t bow tie, I call it a cumberbund LOL bow ties meet at a point at the culet, and this cumberbund has a pavillion facet on it so it''s very wide there, hence the cumberbund effect ROFL!!

I could design a truly beautiful ring around this long stone but...

 

[Scott Terence]

Sorry to hear about the "cumberbund" but its best that you realize its not exactly what you want.

One of my favorite parts of the OMC is that when there is a medium, non elongated culet, coupled with at least the pair of opposing main facets of equal size, you can get the repeating cross-pattern of the pavilion to be displayed on the crown facets (the kites especially)! To me its like looking at a kaleidoscope... the dynamic nature of the patterning is rather mesmerizing and unique. While this is hard to demonstrate on a picture, if you look at this gem advisor model of an OMC, and play with it, you can observe the pattern repeat readily... just keep your eye out for the culet reflection in the kites and you will see what I mean!

Good luck with your continued search, I can't wait to see the next contender