Stones by Yoram

[sparks1007]

Hello. I have become very fond of stones cut by Yoram. I know he cuts for DBL and the Octavia on GOG but are the AVCs also be him? Does he cut for anyone else?

Thanks!
PS I know Yoram posts on here so apologies of this is inappropriate in any way

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I am very fortunate to have a stone cut by Yoram, so I understand your desire! He cuts most or all of the AVC's. He has cut some AVR's. And he cuts the Octavia, as you mentioned. Those and the yellow cushions at DBL are all I know of available from PS vendors.

 

[sparks1007]

Thanks Diamondseeker. Will keep looking at those vendors. Very jealous of your stone! What is it? I lose track of everyone's lovelys on here!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Oh, I lose track of them, too!

Mine is a 2.29 ct. I VS1 AVR. I was almost going to keep a 2.12 I VS1, but because I knew Yoram cut this one, I just had to take a look at it! And obviously, there was no turning back!

 

[sparks1007]

Ah yes. Of course - I read that thread and followed the dilemma.

Lovely choice and I too am being persuaded to part with some extra money if it means I can have a Yoram stone. It's smaller than I was looking at but I hope it will perform significantly better.

 

[sparks1007]

Does anyone have photos of an R colour diamond? I love the warmer diamonds and would be interested to see what it looks like in real life situations. Thanks!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I felt pretty safe going with GOG because I figured if they eventually got in a stone I wanted more, I could just trade in the one I have. But I doubt I will trade this one in. I am more likely to just buy an AVC to make another ring if and when the money tree sprouts up!

I'll be interested to see what you choose!

Just saw your latest question. I think there is someone with an S and I know there are several around M-N-O, so you can kind of get an idea. Those are mostly antique stones, though. Jon's wife has around an N AVC in a halo.

 

[Rhino]

I've had the good pleasure of working with Yoram over the past 6 years and at this moment possess 5 varieties of diamond cut by him. 3 which are pretty well known, 2 that aren't. Bottom line: Yoram kicks butt. I've seen and graded his cutting work over the course of this time and he just keeps getting better and better. I'm proud to be associated with him.

 

[Rockdiamond]

I have to agree Jon!
Yoram is very exacting- and has done some amazing work for us changing the design of OMB's to facilitate fancy colors.
This is almost a contradiction in terms- as the the basic OMB design hides body color
I really love the AVC design- as well as the Octavia.
I've also had the pleasure of having some other one off designs he's cut- and of course French cuts!
The man is nothing short of a genius IMO

 

[Rhino]

I have to agree Jon!
Yoram is very exacting- and has done some amazing work for us changing the design of OMB's to facilitate fancy colors.
This is almost a contradiction in terms- as the the basic OMB design hides body color
I really love the AVC design- as well as the Octavia.
I've also had the pleasure of having some other one off designs he's cut- and of course French cuts!
The man is nothing short of a genius IMO

"Like"

 

[kenny]

Kudos to Yoram.

We have two Octavias and they are miracles of light performance, especially for a step cut.
And this is coming from a guy who is spoiled by two ideal-cut rounds for almost 10 years, a Solasfera and an ACA.

Shout out to KarlK too, the designer of the cut.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Hmmm, I see a "Yoram cut stones" Show me the Bling thread in the future!

 

[sparks1007]

Thanks all!

I'm actually looking at some Yoram stones on DBL and GOG at the moment! They are all lovely and the service has been great. Thanks so much. PS is such a wonderful resource.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Good luck in your search, and we will look forward to seeing the diamond you choose!!!

 

[sparks1007]

Thanks Diamondseeker. Just trying to decide if this is the time to take the plunge. I'm pretty sure I found the centre stone I want. Now I need to work out what to do with it!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Well, you can always do what I did and set it in a solitaire while you take months or years to decide on the forever setting! I am enjoying the diamond in the meantime!

 

[diagem]

Hi All,

Rhino just brought this thread to my attention..., thanx Jon
Thank you all for your kind words, it's a nice feeling reading such feedbacks on my works.
It pushes me to strive and push even further as Rhino mentions above.
In my nine years here on PS, I have learned a lot, one most important lesson was listening to you the consumers. You point the way. And I thank you for this.

I am happy I can pay back with what I know best...

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Hi All,

Rhino just brought this thread to my attention..., thanx Jon
Thank you all for your kind words, it's a nice feeling reading such feedbacks on my works.
It pushes me to strive and push even further as Rhino mentions above.
In my nine years here on PS, I have learned a lot, one most important lesson was listening to you the consumers. You point the way. And I thank you for this.

I am happy I can pay back with what I know best...

It is a true privilege to own a stone cut by you, Yoram. I wanted one from the first time I saw pictures of stones you had cut! The stone is in my avatar picture...so beautiful!!! And I thank Jon, too, for making it possible!

 

[sparks1007]

Hello Yoram! Really chuffed that you've come by to day hello. Your stones are lovely. The style is distinctive. I hope you don't mind me asking but do you cut all the AVCs and AVRs personally? I thought do looking at them but then a Quick look on another website (I'm sorry, the name escapes me) says this isn't the case. I really appreciate that you cut all manner if stones so that web if you haven't got a huge budget they are still affordable. Thank-you for that.

Now, if I could just get someone at GOG to answer my email I'd be sorted.

 

[diagem]

Hi All,

Rhino just brought this thread to my attention..., thanx Jon
Thank you all for your kind words, it's a nice feeling reading such feedbacks on my works.
It pushes me to strive and push even further as Rhino mentions above.
In my nine years here on PS, I have learned a lot, one most important lesson was listening to you the consumers. You point the way. And I thank you for this.

I am happy I can pay back with what I know best...

It is a true privilege to own a stone cut by you, Yoram. I wanted one from the first time I saw pictures of stones you had cut! The stone is in my avatar picture...so beautiful!!! And I thank Jon, too, for making it possible!

Hello DS, 
I remember very well the cutting of your stone. It was an extremely long & creative process. The process of placing each and every facet on that stone in such an exact fashion makes almost every stone I produce a memorable event. Hearing you are happy with your rock pleases a lot. 

I too thank Jon for making it possible. After all, Jon is the reason I first plunged into this exclusive world of Ideal Light Performance Diamonds.

 

[CharmyPoo]

I just asked Jon and apparently Yoram also cut my AVC

Thanks Yoram!!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Hi All,

Rhino just brought this thread to my attention..., thanx Jon
Thank you all for your kind words, it's a nice feeling reading such feedbacks on my works.
It pushes me to strive and push even further as Rhino mentions above.
In my nine years here on PS, I have learned a lot, one most important lesson was listening to you the consumers. You point the way. And I thank you for this.

I am happy I can pay back with what I know best...

It is a true privilege to own a stone cut by you, Yoram. I wanted one from the first time I saw pictures of stones you had cut! The stone is in my avatar picture...so beautiful!!! And I thank Jon, too, for making it possible!

Hello DS, 
I remember very well the cutting of your stone. It was an extremely long & creative process. The process of placing each and every facet on that stone in such an exact fashion makes almost every stone I produce a memorable event. Hearing you are happy with your rock pleases a lot. 

I too thank Jon for making it possible. After all, Jon is the reason I first plunged into this exclusive world of Ideal Light Performance Diamonds.

Wow, that is very special that you remember the cutting of my stone! It will be a treasured heirloom, I assure you! I am still deciding on a permanent setting, but hopefully it will do justice to the stone!

Oh, and an AVC is on my wish list if I am ever able to buy another diamond!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I just asked Jon and apparently Yoram also cut my AVC

Thanks Yoram!!

Awesome, Charmy!!!

 

[sparks1007]

I just asked Jon and apparently Yoram also cut my AVC

Thanks Yoram!!

Swoon. So lucky!!

 

[sparks1007]

I've just noticed that the stone I was looking at has just gone up in price today. I've been waiting to hear back re. setting it and suddenly it's $109 more expensive. That may not seem like much but I've been toing and froing about this stone for over a week now and I've been waiting for an answer to an email I sent a day or two ago and suddenly just now it's more expensive. I'm so sad. It's so far at the top end of my budget I won't have anything left to set it with... Gah! It's really pretty and I love it but I do feel a bit put out by the price change. Is this normal?

 

[diagem]

Hello Yoram! Really chuffed that you've come by to day hello. Your stones are lovely. The style is distinctive. I hope you don't mind me asking but do you cut all the AVCs and AVRs personally? I thought do looking at them but then a Quick look on another website (I'm sorry, the name escapes me) says this isn't the case. I really appreciate that you cut all manner if stones so that web if you haven't got a huge budget they are still affordable. Thank-you for that.

Now, if I could just get someone at GOG to answer my email I'd be sorted.

Hello sparks, 

Thank you, 
To your question; If I had to personally cut all the AVC's & AVR's I would have no life (literally) and you would have almost no choice. Also, those are just a small segment of my offerings. BTW, I am the primary cutter for the OMB's marketed by GOG as AVC but most AVR's were not cut by me.

Just imagine, the process of cutting one average size Diamond to the "precision & accuracy levels" I achieve is an extremely long & stringent process. "If" everything goes as planned in a best scenario case it would take about 5 full days to bring to satisfactory completion (in the physical cutting stage). This is only a part of the long & complicated process which includes; locating & purchasing the correct rough material, accurate rough planning with the most advance technical tools available and several other pre-cut processes which only prolong the entire process. It's a long and complicated road until each of these reach Rhino or other Jewelers on their way to your finger.

(Thats when the Diamond starts another process which I will pass over to Rhino to elaborate better). 

I do can honestly say I personaly locate & purchase each of the rough crystals. I personally plan & prepare each rough Diamond and personally accompany (on the cutting wheel) each and every Diamond through the entire cutting and polishing process. Each Diamond cut in my in-house cutting facility is created by one cutter only, one cutter takes each crystal from its rough stage to its final completion. A rare cutting process in today's mass produced world.

I do plan on writing a piece in the near future demonstrating the detailed process step by step for pure cutters educational purposes in hopes of expanding this niche resulting perhaps in more innovative cuts reaching jewelers. We are pioneers in cutting "speciality cuts & shapes" to the highest accuracy levels present technologies allows. And I would like to pass this skill further.

This industry is unfortunately stuck mostly with various levels of mass-produced generic cuts. Cutters struggling are missing a lot by not pushing forward. And I find it a pity.
I don't just mean Ideal Light Performance Diamond Cuts...., we are barely scratching the surface of our potential!

BTW, I just read your last post..., no need to be sad, I am sure Rhino will do the right thing.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Sparks, there are adjustments in diamond prices as the market changes. They do go up, but I have also seen them go down. I am sure if you are ready to buy the stone and explain that at the time of your email that the price was $109 lower, I am certain they will honor that price. But if you are in the US, it is probably better to call GOG. Or you could reserve the stone online so it is on hold for you.

 

[Rhino]

I've just noticed that the stone I was looking at has just gone up in price today. I've been waiting to hear back re. setting it and suddenly it's $109 more expensive. That may not seem like much but I've been toing and froing about this stone for over a week now and I've been waiting for an answer to an email I sent a day or two ago and suddenly just now it's more expensive. I'm so sad. It's so far at the top end of my budget I won't have anything left to set it with... Gah! It's really pretty and I love it but I do feel a bit put out by the price change. Is this normal?

Hi sparks!

Was just checking in on this thread. Put the diamond on reserve today and I'm happy to honor the former price. In the comments section as you check out just mention that I said so and you can even link to this thread as proof.

We generally do have all our emails answered within a 24 hour span (Tuesday's are generally most brutal as we are closed Sunday/Monday's) but if you are experiencing any delay drop us a buzz for immediate assistance.

Good to see ya here Y.

 

[sparks1007]

Diamondseeker-Thanks for the info on diamond prices. I guess previous to this I haven't spent an awful lot of time thinking about it.

Yoram-Thanks for taking the time to explain the cutting process to me. It's fascinating to hear how you work and it's lovely to hear from someone who takes so much pride in their work. It can be quite rare these days and in such a profit driven industry such as the diamond industry it may be even rarer? I agree that there is a risk of diamond styling becoming stagnant. It's becoming increasingly difficult to find things that are not run of the mill. Hence the trend towards old cuts I suspect. I have seen some more unusual (and beautiful) cuts in non-diamonds but I don't think they have caught on and perhaps won't. People worry (sadly I think) a lot about what others think of their stones.

Please don't quote me on any of this. I've had 4 hours sleep and am rambling. And I am by no means an expert on anything diamond related. I just like them

Rhino-Thanks for the generous offer to honour the previous price. I've had a good email exchange with David as well.

I'm currently on my way away for the weekend so Internet access will be an issue. Thanks all! Updates when I'm back.

 

[diagem]

Diamondseeker-Thanks for the info on diamond prices. I guess previous to this I haven't spent an awful lot of time thinking about it.

Yoram-Thanks for taking the time to explain the cutting process to me. It's fascinating to hear how you work and it's lovely to hear from someone who takes so much pride in their work. It can be quite rare these days and in such a profit driven industry such as the diamond industry it may be even rarer? I agree that there is a risk of diamond styling becoming stagnant. It's becoming increasingly difficult to find things that are not run of the mill. Hence the trend towards old cuts I suspect. I have seen some more unusual (and beautiful) cuts in non-diamonds but I don't think they have caught on and perhaps won't. People worry (sadly I think) a lot about what others think of their stones.

Please don't quote me on any of this. I've had 4 hours sleep and am rambling. And I am by no means an expert on anything diamond related. I just like them

Rhino-Thanks for the generous offer to honour the previous price. I've had a good email exchange with David as well.

I'm currently on my way away for the weekend so Internet access will be an issue. Thanks all! Updates when I'm back.

Thank you sparks, yes, I do have a lot of pride in my work after all, it's my livelihood & passion and consider myself lucky in this sense. I find it also very important to explain (not just to you) as these cuts are other creatures, there is almost no similarities in their rough to polished journeys yet they are always compared with their generic counterparts.

In a world like today when most Diamonds are cut by huge conglomerates, the Indian Diamond industry claims to be cutting 9 out of every 12 Diamonds cut in the world, (some individual Indian manufacturing companies are larger by all means than some cutting centers in certain countries). In order to survive small, medium and to some extent "large" cutting houses must think "out-of-the-box".

I was lucky enough to notice this trend back in the late 1990's which made me decide to swim against the flow. The trend towards Old-Cuts as you correctly mention didn't happen overnight. I can proudly say cutting & marketing Old-Cuts in the late 90's was a serious challenge. I remember it was extremely complicated getting Jewelers to purchase newly cut OMC's, Jewelers were only willing to purchase genuine OMC's if at all. Some still stand by this policy especially some high end Antique & Estate Jewelers. Most came to the old conclusion that "if you can't beat them join them" and nowadays are happy to be able to choose.

The only way for me to bypass this obstacle was by cutting high end quality OMC's (until then the majority of genuine colorless antique cuts were recut to modern generic cuts making it almost impossible to find genuine colorless OMC's, let alone by special order). That's where I started building my niche. Presently I am designing, cutting and marketing a wide variety of "old-cuts & geometric Art-Deco Diamond cuts/layouts which fill a wide demand of needs as well as creating demand for Old-Cuts utilizing modern technology tools which my predecessors weren't lucky enough to enjoy. As a result (and after almost 20 years of R&D in this field) I am able to offer quite a range of uniquely cut Diamonds as some of you PS'ers are witnessing and are able to enjoy.

PriceScope is a very special & important place, PriceScope made it possible for people like me, various PS vendors and even a consumer to connect resulting in PS'ers witnessing the birth and enjoying the fruits of these bonds. Without PriceScope these innovations would not have happened.

*Karl K (aka former PS'er "strmrdr") and I connecting bringing to market one of the most innovative cuts "Octavia".
*Rhino (GOG) and I connecting bringing to market the first AGS Ideal Cut Old-Mine Brilliants.
*Leon Mege and I connecting bringing to market the first layouts of Art-Deco Calibre French Cut Diamonds.
*David (DBL) and I connecting bringing to market the first available line of Fancy Colored Old-Mine Brilliants.

I personally promise more eventful & innovative cuts in the near future...

Designing and cutting the DBL branded OMBs with colored rough material was and is still a great challenge. it's against economics as I am cutting colored rough to a facet design (standard 58 facet brilliant which OMBs are) which love hiding body color favoring a bright brilliant face-up. Those colored OMBs are not cut in the same fashion as LP cuts. Each stone and it's body color behaves differently in the cutting process challenging me to find the right proportions on each stone individually making it an Art. I am in the minority when it comes to locating & purchasing colored rough as cutters of fancy colored Diamonds will usualy achieve a darker color grade when applying their cut-to-enhance-face-up-color-techniques (e.g. GIA will grade a DBL branded OMB similar to Round Brilliants or step cuts, at least one or more shades lighter their modified brilliant shaped counterparts).

To your last paragraph..., exploring with cuts on precious material (other than Diamonds) is easier obtainable and doable because of value disparities, I assume this is the reason you and the world see more daring cuts in these types of materials, remember though some cuts are impossible to apply to Diamonds because of its hardness & grain directions and there is always the differences in RI and its critical angle. But with the availability of technologies like OctoNus's DiamCalc and other similar devices we cutters have the (though limited) freedom to practice virtually saving us some of the needs to explore on the live material. A luxury I didn't have when I first explored speciality cuts almost 20 years ago.

I am optimistic more cutters will slowly trickle into this innovative world of Diamond cutting, in order to survive they will have no choice but to.....