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T L

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Would you guys think that Paraiba is a type of indicolite? Or should not be categorized as indicolite? Kind of like the relationship between Ruby and Sapphire?

Blue tourmaline is indicolite. Therefore blue paraiba is.a type of indicolite. Not all indicolite is paraiba.

Paraiba is more of a trade name.
 

IcePhoenix

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The tourmaline on the top right, has been sold to me as a greenish blue tourmaline, so idk if I can call it an indicolite. Any thoughts much appreciated :mrgreen2: 20190429_162316.jpg
 

FlashyFlamingo

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The tourmaline on the top right, has been sold to me as a greenish blue tourmaline, so idk if I can call it an indicolite. Any thoughts much appreciated :mrgreen2: 20190429_162316.jpg
It looks very dark for indicolite. Did the vendor send any other pics under different lighting?
 

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I've noticed that a lot of sellers will advertise something as Pariaba color tourmaline, which suggests that the stone has a color similar to Paraiba tourmalines, but is not a Pariaba tourmaline. I'm fine with the description, as long as the price is commensurate with the actual stone. But it does seem a little deceptive. It reminds me of a local furniture store that always has huge banner signs on it that say "Going Out For Business! Lowest Prices!" It took me a while before I noticed that it didn't say "Going Out OF Business! Lowest Prices!"

I’m not okay with dealers calling all copper bearing blue tourmaline “Paraiba. ” I just saw a well known dealer put this up for sale as a “paraiba.” It looks like a grayish aquamarine. Well I digress, but it is a pet peeve.

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I’m not okay with dealers calling all copper bearing blue tourmaline “Paraiba. ” I just saw a well known dealer put this up for sale as a “paraiba.” It looks like a grayish aquamarine. Well I digress, but it is a pet peeve.

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This is very sketchy, but a case could be made that it is neon blue at the very tip. It does look like an aquamarine, though. :|
 

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You must have great eyes :cool2: because I don’t see any neon in that stone at all! :oops2:
 

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When it's like 1-2% of the pixels across that whole area, I agree it's negligible.
 
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Adding mine... a 3.6 ct that I recently set in a ring and another 6 ct that will probably be a pendant unless I find a super ready made setting.

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The 3.6 ct is from Nigeria and more of a teal color. It was sold as neon blue tourmaline and has some really nice flashes of ‘neon?’ color.
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Adding mine... a 3.6 ct that I recently set in a ring and another 6 ct that will probably be a pendant unless I find a super ready made setting.

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The 3.6 ct is from Nigeria and more of a teal color. It was sold as neon blue tourmaline and has some really nice flashes of ‘neon?’ color.
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Nice teal colored indicolites. I love that chunky faceting on the cushion. It’s nice they don’t black out in the sun, which can happen with some indicolite.
 

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I have this trillion from Rioux Rocks that is off to the jewelers to be set. It’s placed loosely in the mounting in these photos so it’s sitting a little crooked. I love indicolite and wish they were easier to find because I would love to have more! Joshua described the color of this stone as Caribbean blue.
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I have this trillion from Rioux Rocks that is off to the jewelers to be set. It’s placed loosely in the mounting in these photos so it’s sitting a little crooked. I love indicolite and wish they were easier to find because I would love to have more! Joshua described the color of this stone as Caribbean blue.
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Really pretty stone and setting! Where is the setting from?
 

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Really pretty stone and setting! Where is the setting from?
Thank you @voce ! The setting is from Kyo at jewelryhoo2 on eBay. I don’t think they have this setting listed in their store right now, but it can be made if you contact him. They had this design listed when I first started collecting and I had been hoping to have it made some day when I found just the right trillion =)2.
 

icy_jade

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I have this trillion from Rioux Rocks that is off to the jewelers to be set. It’s placed loosely in the mounting in these photos so it’s sitting a little crooked. I love indicolite and wish they were easier to find because I would love to have more! Joshua described the color of this stone as Caribbean blue.
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I love the setting. Can you pls share the dimensions of your stone? Definitely bookmarking if I get any trillions. Thank you for sharing.

Nice teal colored indicolites. I love that chunky faceting on the cushion. It’s nice they don’t black out in the sun, which can happen with some indicolite.

Definitely performs better in some lighting vs others. But I’m quite fond of bluish gems. The larger one is more of a true blue while the cushion is definitely teal.
 

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I love the setting. Can you pls share the dimensions of your stone? Definitely bookmarking if I get any trillions. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks @icy_jade ! My trillion stone is 7.8mm. With the double halo the piece gives lots of finger coverage. I should mention that I upgraded this piece to have their best diamond melee for a very small charge. I would definitely recommend doing that because the diamonds are super white and bright!
I looove your new indicolite ring! It’s so gorgeous :love::love::love:
 

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This my 3 carat copper bearing indicolite from Mozambique. It has a GIT memo indicating the presence of copper. This does not have the glow of true paraiba, despite the copper. This just shows you that not all copper bearing stones are worthy of the paraiba trade name. It’s a pleasant looking gem though.

Most Brazilian Paraiba tourmaline are heated to get that neon color. The best start at dark and the color of blue ink in a Bic pen. So you never know what it will look like heated if it is unheated now. However the majority of stones break if not heated perfectly. I experimented heating Nigerian stones over a stove years ago and a lot blew apart due to liquid inclusions that expanded very quickly due to the liquid inside boiling and turning to a steam.
 
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