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mscushion said:Yes, sale and purchase for limited (tbd) consumption should be legalized and taxed at substantial rates, IMO.
Autumnovember said:If it is legalized it needs to be legalized for a strict quantity. For example, in Mexico it is legal to carry up to 4 (I think) personal joints. and X amount of grams.
Do I think it should be legalized? Yes.
I DO believe that alcohol is a lot more harmful in more ways than one.
However, it DOES worry me in the sense that there ARE indeed people who can smoke and function completely, but there are others who can't and THAT is probably my greatest concern. I do think that it is extremely helpful in regards to medicine.
I don't know if it could be done but they could still have the same rules for work---cannot come to work drunk OR high and continue with the reinforcement of that too.
Trekkie said:Autumnovember said:If it is legalized it needs to be legalized for a strict quantity. For example, in Mexico it is legal to carry up to 4 (I think) personal joints. and X amount of grams.
Do I think it should be legalized? Yes.
I DO believe that alcohol is a lot more harmful in more ways than one.
However, it DOES worry me in the sense that there ARE indeed people who can smoke and function completely, but there are others who can't and THAT is probably my greatest concern. I do think that it is extremely helpful in regards to medicine.
I don't know if it could be done but they could still have the same rules for work---cannot come to work drunk OR high and continue with the reinforcement of that too.
There are people out there who can use drugs successfully, but some people can't. I'm one of those people who can't. As a recovering drug addict and alcoholic, I know that I can become addicted to anything... Even licking stamps.
However, most people are not addicts, and I don't see why my illness should prevent other people access to life-changing treatment. I personally know many terminal AIDS patients who find the use of marijuana to be incredibly helpful. Here in South Africa vital medications are often out of reach for the poorest of the poor, while marijuana grows just about anywhere like a weed.
Why should the fact that some people can become addicted to marijuana prevent these people from enjoying quality of life in their last weeks or months?
Autumnovember said:Trekkie said:Autumnovember said:If it is legalized it needs to be legalized for a strict quantity. For example, in Mexico it is legal to carry up to 4 (I think) personal joints. and X amount of grams.
Do I think it should be legalized? Yes.
I DO believe that alcohol is a lot more harmful in more ways than one.
However, it DOES worry me in the sense that there ARE indeed people who can smoke and function completely, but there are others who can't and THAT is probably my greatest concern. I do think that it is extremely helpful in regards to medicine.
I don't know if it could be done but they could still have the same rules for work---cannot come to work drunk OR high and continue with the reinforcement of that too.
There are people out there who can use drugs successfully, but some people can't. I'm one of those people who can't. As a recovering drug addict and alcoholic, I know that I can become addicted to anything... Even licking stamps.
However, most people are not addicts, and I don't see why my illness should prevent other people access to life-changing treatment. I personally know many terminal AIDS patients who find the use of marijuana to be incredibly helpful. Here in South Africa vital medications are often out of reach for the poorest of the poor, while marijuana grows just about anywhere like a weed.
Why should the fact that some people can become addicted to marijuana prevent these people from enjoying quality of life in their last weeks or months?
I'm not really sure if you are asking me something or just stating your thoughts but....I did say that it should be legalized.
kribbie said:No.
I've experienced first hand how pot can ruin relationships and lives.
There are a lot of people out there who do not even think of weed as being a real addiction. They consider it to be a “soft drug” and not really worthy of the label of addiction. For the most part, there are generally no withdrawal symptoms when someone stops smoking weed, and there is very little evidence of physical dependence. So it gets passed off all the time as being somehow less than other “real drugs.”
This is a big mistake because Marijuana is a real drug and it can seriously screw up your life. Forget about the fact that weed is illegal, or that it is physically unhealthy to smoke, or that it can impair your driving, and so on. Forget all those arguments for a moment because they are besides the point.
Here are the 3 main problems with weed addiction:
1) You are medicating your feelings, just like with any other mood or mind altering substance (such as alcohol, cocaine, etc.).
2) You are dedicating your life to a hollow purpose.
3) Your ambitions and motivation is being sapped by your drug habit.
I've seen it happen. A lot of people who smoke weed stay in denial about this, because they maintain that they still have dreams and they still have goals. This is usually a form of denial though because now that they are full time weed smokers they are no longer actively pursuing those goals and dreams. They are complacent with their life.
The habit of smoking weed creates a certain lifestyle and that lifestyle becomes your life purpose. It becomes difficult to pursue anything outside of this relatively limited world view.
The argument that they "are going to do it anyway" is flawed. Should we also create a drunk driving lane on the freeway to accomodate drunk drivers because "they will do it anyway?".
As for the medical benefits, this is a study done by Harvard: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/evidence99 ... lth_1.html
But if you don't want to read it, here is the bottom line: the only benefit would be to someone who is dying, because it actually makes conditions like HIV and cancer worse. So unless you want to help someone die pain-free, there is no further benefit to smoking pot.
Nashville said:Yup. Legalize it, tax it. Do you have any idea how much crime and time from our law enforcement it will save? Start to legalize what drug traffickers and cartel are providing, you will see a major decrease in illegal activity and violence. Then our cops can focus on more important matters instead of busting kids who are having a joint on the bleachers at the football field. Almost a MILLION people last year were arrested for possession. Call me crazy, but I would rather our law enforcement focus on the murderers, rapists, child abusers, bank robbers instead of some people having a joint.
Obviously pot being illegal isn't intimidating people enough to stop buying it. Why should others countries profit from these crops? Put that money back into this struggling country. IMHO, if pot should be illegal, then so should alcohol and many prescription and over the counter medications.
It's time to get over it and start using it for it's benefits.
Dancing Fire said:Nashville said:Yup. Legalize it, tax it. Do you have any idea how much crime and time from our law enforcement it will save? Start to legalize what drug traffickers and cartel are providing, you will see a major decrease in illegal activity and violence. Then our cops can focus on more important matters instead of busting kids who are having a joint on the bleachers at the football field. Almost a MILLION people last year were arrested for possession. Call me crazy, but I would rather our law enforcement focus on the murderers, rapists, child abusers, bank robbers instead of some people having a joint.
Obviously pot being illegal isn't intimidating people enough to stop buying it. Why should others countries profit from these crops? Put that money back into this struggling country. IMHO, if pot should be illegal, then so should alcohol and many prescription and over the counter medications.
It's time to get over it and start using it for it's benefits.![]()
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movie zombie said:Dancing Fire said:Nashville said:Yup. Legalize it, tax it. Do you have any idea how much crime and time from our law enforcement it will save? Start to legalize what drug traffickers and cartel are providing, you will see a major decrease in illegal activity and violence. Then our cops can focus on more important matters instead of busting kids who are having a joint on the bleachers at the football field. Almost a MILLION people last year were arrested for possession. Call me crazy, but I would rather our law enforcement focus on the murderers, rapists, child abusers, bank robbers instead of some people having a joint.
Obviously pot being illegal isn't intimidating people enough to stop buying it. Why should others countries profit from these crops? Put that money back into this struggling country. IMHO, if pot should be illegal, then so should alcohol and many prescription and over the counter medications.
It's time to get over it and start using it for it's benefits.![]()
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elledizzy5 said:movie zombie said:Dancing Fire said:Nashville said:Yup. Legalize it, tax it. Do you have any idea how much crime and time from our law enforcement it will save? Start to legalize what drug traffickers and cartel are providing, you will see a major decrease in illegal activity and violence. Then our cops can focus on more important matters instead of busting kids who are having a joint on the bleachers at the football field. Almost a MILLION people last year were arrested for possession. Call me crazy, but I would rather our law enforcement focus on the murderers, rapists, child abusers, bank robbers instead of some people having a joint.
Obviously pot being illegal isn't intimidating people enough to stop buying it. Why should others countries profit from these crops? Put that money back into this struggling country. IMHO, if pot should be illegal, then so should alcohol and many prescription and over the counter medications.
It's time to get over it and start using it for it's benefits.![]()
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