Tuckins1
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Should marijuana be legalized?
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Cehrabehra
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t-gal - it IS different than drinking, but not worse... drinking tends to bring a lot of emotions out in people where as IMO pot brings out a lot of thinking/analyzing (not that the result is logical to a non-high person... but sometimes it is, history shows). I could see how it would make someone look apathetic, when really they're just distracted by all the looking around at things in an off-kilter way and thinking about it. Alcohol makes you sloshy, pot makes you spacy.
and Danny, I was surprised by kenny's answer as well, but sometimes I think he has a true conservative vein running through him
and Danny, I was surprised by kenny's answer as well, but sometimes I think he has a true conservative vein running through him
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LOL!
Myself, prohibition = nonsense. I'll do it if I want and I honestly believe that I have a right because it is a God given plant and is totally natural like alcohol (and if the government told me I couldn't drink alcohol I would think they were being equally ridiculous).
But I don't do it (actually) because 1. I can't afford it and 2. I don't like smoking (I don't smoke cigarettes and I don't enjoy the smoking aspect of marijuana).
But I feel very strongly, and I always have, that people have the right to smoke if they want, and I think it is particularly obscene when marijuana is denied to cancer patients, and to other who need it for medicinal value (where do people think pharmaceuticals come from, anyway).
We have some of the best marijuana in the world in Hawaii. It's also very expensive. And in my upper-middle class neighborhood, growing it not something you could do.
I might consider whether I think other drugs should be illegal- but not marijuana, and it's a settled issue for me personally. I'll never change my mind.
Kenny is a very wise man, in all seriousness, even though we might not agree on this.
Myself, prohibition = nonsense. I'll do it if I want and I honestly believe that I have a right because it is a God given plant and is totally natural like alcohol (and if the government told me I couldn't drink alcohol I would think they were being equally ridiculous).
But I don't do it (actually) because 1. I can't afford it and 2. I don't like smoking (I don't smoke cigarettes and I don't enjoy the smoking aspect of marijuana).
But I feel very strongly, and I always have, that people have the right to smoke if they want, and I think it is particularly obscene when marijuana is denied to cancer patients, and to other who need it for medicinal value (where do people think pharmaceuticals come from, anyway).
We have some of the best marijuana in the world in Hawaii. It's also very expensive. And in my upper-middle class neighborhood, growing it not something you could do.
I might consider whether I think other drugs should be illegal- but not marijuana, and it's a settled issue for me personally. I'll never change my mind.
Kenny is a very wise man, in all seriousness, even though we might not agree on this.
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It took me several decades of thought on the issues of drug use - and the consequences - to come up with my current view:
All drugs should be legalized for adults - and should be available at your local pharmacy.
The government should license and control all production facilities (no homegrown pot or other things).
The taxes should be minimized on these drugs (we want to keep them so cheap that it would not be profitable for a criminal element to undercut the supply price). Subsidies, up to free drugs, will be available to people who are addicted - but cannot afford the legal drugs.
A person would be required to fill out an annual disclosure/consent form at the pharmacy. That form shall include a bold statement that the person acknowledges that they may loos their job (or not be employable) if they are using drugs not prescribed by their Dr. for medical reasons.
All employers would be able to drug test employees and could fire employees who were taking drugs not prescribed by their Dr (or not considered OTC drugs).
People can be held criminally liable for supplying drugs to other people - or to minors.
Drugs will be available to minors at the pharmacy with a drug support group prescription (the current groups who supply clean needles and other supplies to help people with their addiction and other health issues).
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This will not stop people from messing their lives up with drugs (and I'm a personal witness to someone close to me that is now really messed up on drugs - which started from legal prescriptions).
It will stop most of the drug trafficking and illegal activities. It will end the drug cartels.
It will stop people from committing other crimes to get drugs.
It will mean that everyone will have access to clean needles and other items to prevent spread of disease. People will have access to proper health advice as well.
It will allow law enforcement and courts to focus on other crimes.
Overall, I expect that it will lower the crime rate substantially, with only a slight increase in drug addicts. Overall, the total number of people currently hurt by drugs or the drug trade will decrease (and the person who's house is burglarized - or who is mugged - to get $$ for drugs; is a victim too).
Edited to add: I've never used drugs - and used to think that they should be very illegal (even Pot). I grew up when the psychedelic drugs like LSD, meth, etc became popular. Most people I know used or tried pot as a teenager.
Have a great day,
Perry
All drugs should be legalized for adults - and should be available at your local pharmacy.
The government should license and control all production facilities (no homegrown pot or other things).
The taxes should be minimized on these drugs (we want to keep them so cheap that it would not be profitable for a criminal element to undercut the supply price). Subsidies, up to free drugs, will be available to people who are addicted - but cannot afford the legal drugs.
A person would be required to fill out an annual disclosure/consent form at the pharmacy. That form shall include a bold statement that the person acknowledges that they may loos their job (or not be employable) if they are using drugs not prescribed by their Dr. for medical reasons.
All employers would be able to drug test employees and could fire employees who were taking drugs not prescribed by their Dr (or not considered OTC drugs).
People can be held criminally liable for supplying drugs to other people - or to minors.
Drugs will be available to minors at the pharmacy with a drug support group prescription (the current groups who supply clean needles and other supplies to help people with their addiction and other health issues).
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This will not stop people from messing their lives up with drugs (and I'm a personal witness to someone close to me that is now really messed up on drugs - which started from legal prescriptions).
It will stop most of the drug trafficking and illegal activities. It will end the drug cartels.
It will stop people from committing other crimes to get drugs.
It will mean that everyone will have access to clean needles and other items to prevent spread of disease. People will have access to proper health advice as well.
It will allow law enforcement and courts to focus on other crimes.
Overall, I expect that it will lower the crime rate substantially, with only a slight increase in drug addicts. Overall, the total number of people currently hurt by drugs or the drug trade will decrease (and the person who's house is burglarized - or who is mugged - to get $$ for drugs; is a victim too).
Edited to add: I've never used drugs - and used to think that they should be very illegal (even Pot). I grew up when the psychedelic drugs like LSD, meth, etc became popular. Most people I know used or tried pot as a teenager.
Have a great day,
Perry
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This has become quite the topic over the past few days.
It seems that there a ton of different opinions. This comes from a ton of different experiences. When I was younger I was in a town that was very pro pot. You could walk down the street and someone would ask if you wanted to smoke a joint. My best friend who also was my step dads sister were very similar growing up. I tried everything under the sun in those years. I know that it was a bad choice to make, but I didnt get addicted to any of them. I tried them, and that was it.(dont do any drugs now) On the other hand my best friend got addicted to pain killers, crack and heroin. There is no explaining why one person can do drugs and never get addcited and another one gets addicted with the first dose. You just cant classify the experience of a few to the whole population. The chemicals in drugs react differently with the chemicals in individuals bodies. I think this explains why some people can smoke weed and be completely normal as far as functioning goes and someone else is off their rocker high as a kite. My best friend did finally manage to get off of drugs, but it has made an impact on her entire life. To this day even when she has a serious medical need for strong painkillers she will not get the prescription filled. She says she doesnt trust herself to not go back because she knows how easily it was for her to get addicted the first time.
It seems that there a ton of different opinions. This comes from a ton of different experiences. When I was younger I was in a town that was very pro pot. You could walk down the street and someone would ask if you wanted to smoke a joint. My best friend who also was my step dads sister were very similar growing up. I tried everything under the sun in those years. I know that it was a bad choice to make, but I didnt get addicted to any of them. I tried them, and that was it.(dont do any drugs now) On the other hand my best friend got addicted to pain killers, crack and heroin. There is no explaining why one person can do drugs and never get addcited and another one gets addicted with the first dose. You just cant classify the experience of a few to the whole population. The chemicals in drugs react differently with the chemicals in individuals bodies. I think this explains why some people can smoke weed and be completely normal as far as functioning goes and someone else is off their rocker high as a kite. My best friend did finally manage to get off of drugs, but it has made an impact on her entire life. To this day even when she has a serious medical need for strong painkillers she will not get the prescription filled. She says she doesnt trust herself to not go back because she knows how easily it was for her to get addicted the first time.
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