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pballer12

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Hey,

So im a little worried about my recent diamond purchase... I bought an engagement ring and center stone from a well known and respected jewelry store, so hopefully im alright. But im wondering if I should return the diamond while I still can. Here's the specs:

1.35 ct
vs2
h
princess cut (5.97 X 6.14)
EGL certified
appraised at 8,000
clarity treated

The two parts that bug me are the EGL cert and the clarity treatment. The store will always trade it for what I paid, so that's nice. But I don't wanna get screwed if it goes out of business in a year!

I paid $6,000 for the diamond, should I hurry up and return it or are the EGL cert and clarity treatment not a big deal?

Thanks!
 
Clarity treatment is a big deal. Do you know what type of treatment they used?
 
I'd return it for a full refund and get a non-clarity enhanced princess graded by AGS that got an AGS 0 cut grade from Whiteflash, James Allen, Good Old Gold or High Performance Diamonds.

HPD and Whiteflash have a branded princess cut that I'd consider.

Good cut affects the beautiful light performance you see more than color or clarity.
 
Addy|1323302888|3076546 said:
Clarity treatment is a big deal. Do you know what type of treatment they used?
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O boy, can't remember the name off the top of my head. All I kno is they filled in a feather and the only way to undo it is with extreme heat or acid. If it does "undo" itself then they repair it for free. Maybe you can tell from that info?
 
return it now!
 
i agree!! please return it and we'll try help u find a better one!!
 
Return it NOW!!!!!!!!
 
Because i way overpaid? Or why should i return it?
 
because EGL grades looser so unless you get it appraised you won't know what the REAL grading is - for all we know it could be a J color and SI

clarity enhanced diamonds aren't popular on here and there was a recent thread on what happened to someone's stone.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/pics-what-happened-to-my-clarity-enhanced-diamond.168193/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/pics-what-happened-to-my-clarity-enhanced-diamond.168193/[/URL]

adding all those facts together you paid too much because you aren't getting what you think, and the stone is not the best quality. not to say the stone doesn't look beautiful, but you'll find that people on this forum are looking for quality and getting the best stone for your money. i think what we're all trying to say is that the one you bought isn't the best thing you can get, and because you have a return policy you should utilise it.

edit: yssie linked you to the same thread. but yes definitely check that one out!
 
Basically, yes, you waaaay overpaid. Run, don't walk. Here's why: you can get a non-clarity enhanced 1 carat stone for about the same price, and probably a much better cut, and with an EGL cert, you really don't have any idea what the color or clarity is, anyway, so you could drop to like a J SI2 for your search parameters. Actually, here's a J VS2 1.26 carat for $4,310 with PS discount. Boom, I just saved you $2k. :bigsmile:

Other options that around 1 carat, with higher color:
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/princess-cut-loose-diamond-2677734.htm
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7257/

Plus, PLEASE read this: [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/pics-what-happened-to-my-clarity-enhanced-diamond.168193/#post-3061175']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/pics-what-happened-to-my-clarity-enhanced-diamond.168193/#post-3061175[/URL] ETA: I've seen others have posted this same thread in the time it's taken me to search. Definitely worth a read!
 
over paid and it's a bad diamond...
 
I certainly hope you take the wise advice, clarity enhanced is a big no-no.
 
The link Yessie posted immediately popped into my head when you said enhanced. I would return it right now and never look back. Personally I would rather have a .5ct natural high quality diamond rather than a 2ct enhanced diamond no contest.
 
Actually, the more I read the posts and the more I think about it the more I'm OK with the CE diamond. I know everyone is saying they're terrible, but the place I bought it from will fix it for free and will always let me trade for my purchase price. So in my mind, why would they screw me over if I could just trade in for anything I wanted in the store anyways? The picture of the CE diamond after 5 years kinda bothers me, but thats one picture. I'd need to see more pictures to form a true opinion about it. But again, if that happens I can get it fixed at no cost.
 
pballer12|1323311000|3076664 said:
Actually, the more I read the posts and the more I think about it the more I'm OK with the CE diamond. I know everyone is saying they're terrible, but the place I bought it from will fix it for free and will always let me trade for my purchase price. So in my mind, why would they screw me over if I could just trade in for anything I wanted in the store anyways? The picture of the CE diamond after 5 years kinda bothers me, but thats one picture. I'd need to see more pictures to form a true opinion about it. But again, if that happens I can get it fixed at no cost.
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At the end of the day you're the one who has to be happy with the stone, so it's good to see that you're doing your due diligence. I would advise that you ensure you fully understand any terms and conditions associated with upgrading, returning, and re-enhancing, and get all that information in writing, signed and dated.

I would also advise that you base your decisions entirely on what you think, feel, and observe, and avoid trying to decode vendor motives - there may be many, in your favour and otherwise, to which you aren't privy!
 
pballer12|1323311000|3076664 said:
Actually, the more I read the posts and the more I think about it the more I'm OK with the CE diamond. I know everyone is saying they're terrible, but the place I bought it from will fix it for free and will always let me trade for my purchase price. So in my mind, why would they screw me over if I could just trade in for anything I wanted in the store anyways? The picture of the CE diamond after 5 years kinda bothers me, but thats one picture. I'd need to see more pictures to form a true opinion about it. But again, if that happens I can get it fixed at no cost.
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Eeek. I guess you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink!!

Why would you buy a stone that you know you might have problems with, but will be fixed for free, when you can just buy a better stone that you won't have problems with for LESS?

It's like if you were in the market to buy a car, and you found one that was a complete lemon - you knew it would break down every 3,000 miles and need major repairs, but the dealership promised to fix it for free. Or, for the same price or LESS, you could get a brand new vehicle with a great warranty that will run like a champ. Why would you pick the lemon!?

A clarity enhanced EGL is a textbook definition of a lemon in the diamond world!
 
sonnyjane|1323312184|3076685 said:
pballer12|1323311000|3076664 said:
Actually, the more I read the posts and the more I think about it the more I'm OK with the CE diamond. I know everyone is saying they're terrible, but the place I bought it from will fix it for free and will always let me trade for my purchase price. So in my mind, why would they screw me over if I could just trade in for anything I wanted in the store anyways? The picture of the CE diamond after 5 years kinda bothers me, but thats one picture. I'd need to see more pictures to form a true opinion about it. But again, if that happens I can get it fixed at no cost.
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Eeek. I guess you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink!!

Why would you buy a stone that you know you might have problems with, but will be fixed for free, when you can just buy a better stone that you won't have problems with for LESS?

It's like if you were in the market to buy a car, and you found one that was a complete lemon - you knew it would break down every 3,000 miles and need major repairs, but the dealership promised to fix it for free. Or, for the same price or LESS, you could get a brand new vehicle with a great warranty that will run like a champ. Why would you pick the lemon!?

A clarity enhanced EGL is a textbook definition of a lemon in the diamond world!
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Yes, return it and get your money back! A clarity enhanced stone is just a dud. It's not even like you're saving money by getting one!!
 
My $0.02:
Perhaps it is easier to illustrate the point about clarity enhanced diamonds in this way: the FTC says it is ILLEGAL for a person to sell a diamond and NOT mention that it is clarity enhanced.

Other folks here may not agree 100% with this statement, (feel free to correct or add to my statement) but in laymen's terms it is sort of like selling somebody a car that isn't what they advertise it to be, for a price higher than what the car is truly worth. This allows them to sell a car they normally wouldn't be able to sell, which makes them money. In the end, the buyer usually loses out.

Wishing you luck with whatever you decide is best for you and your future fiancee.

Not very good at posting links but I'll try:

http://jewelrywiseblog.com/non-natural-diamonds/

and last paragraph at the bottom of the page:
http://www.mmartinjewelry.com/newpage8.htm

issues you may run into with insuring your diamond
http://jcrs.com/newsletters/2011/2011_05.htm

https://www.pricescope.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000172.html
 
pballer12|1323311000|3076664 said:
Actually, the more I read the posts and the more I think about it the more I'm OK with the CE diamond. I know everyone is saying they're terrible, but the place I bought it from will fix it for free and will always let me trade for my purchase price. So in my mind, why would they screw me over if I could just trade in for anything I wanted in the store anyways? The picture of the CE diamond after 5 years kinda bothers me, but thats one picture. I'd need to see more pictures to form a true opinion about it. But again, if that happens I can get it fixed at no cost.
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yeah,but will they still be in business?
 
If you want a CE diamond then at least pay a fair price for it. You way overpaid for a CE diamond with an EGL cert.
 
Where does one go to price out CEs? I have no idea - other than on ebay I guess?
 
Return it. You paid $6,000 for a Clarity Enhanced stone? No way. Get all of your money back and start over elsewhere.
 
Plus I think depending on where the fracture is you may end up with a broken corner. Prongs put a lot of pressure on the
corners of square shape stones. I think you are just asking for trouble.

Edit- btw, Idjewelry has a 1.37 H/VS2 EGL (Non Clarity enhanced) for $4500. I'm just saying that not only did you get a CE diamond
that should be way cheaper, you still overpayed even if it werent CE. My recommendation would be to stick with GIA/AGS.

http://idjewelryonline.com/cert.php?id=ND602-65
http://idjewelryonline.com/diamonds_results1.php?shape=PR&pricefrom=0&priceto=500000&caratfrom=1.2&caratto=1.4&colorfrom=G&colorto=I&clarfrom=VS1&clarto=SI1&polish=ANY&cert=Any&symmetry=ANY&depthfrom=&depthto=&tablefrom=&tableto=&cut=ANY&item_id=&vendor=IDJEWEL&sortby2=&pageNum_rs_diamonds=2
 
It's threads like this that make me really frustrated. :angryfire: Here is a forum of people, all basically donating their time to a good cause--helping you find the best diamond for your money--and you'd prefer to believe that the VENDOR has your best interests at heart? :rolleyes: We have no interest in taking your money, or making sure you spend the most possible, but the vendor certainly does. We refer folks to the vendors we've used ourselves and have had many, many, many success stories--Pricescope has over 3 MILLION posts.

If you're good with CE, then great, but I think you can spend far less than $6k on a completely natural, beautiful stone from a vendor that will also stand behind it 100%. Can you return the diamond and think about it/research for a few more days? I doubt it's going to sell in the time it would take you to do more research.
 
Please cut your losses. You won't regret it. Return it now, and I promise if you don't find something better through the suggestions here you can go back and repurchase it.
 
Considering the OP has only 4 posts and the content of the responses to the advice of so many I wonder if (s)he may be a shill for sellers of CE diamonds.
 
No Kenny, just the average guy with the Christmas holiday approaching and wants to surprise his girl. And like alot of men, he does not research anything.Buy it first, and THEN ask if he got a good deal :roll:
 
Take the advice of the pp's and get your money back and get your MONEY'S worth elsewhere!
 
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