Should I halo my 3.02ct F VS2 RB?

[Enerchi]

[quote="mom2boys|1326034959|3097856"

Here's another thought--redo your 3 stone w/ the 3 ct in the middle and halo your BGD blue 2.3ct instead![/quote]

I like that idea --- but I'm no where near the caliber of diamond "owner/educator/appreciator/advisor", that the above ladies who have posted, are! I also think that the solitaire "as is", is just perfect.

I do recall Bliss's thread when she unhaloed her e-ring - and much preferred the solitaire to the halo. As was mentioned above, the proportions become a bit "odd" when you are looking at such a large centre stone, in a halo.

Maybe out of your zone is the way to go - antique? Ultra Modern? halo a pendant perhaps??

 

[lalak812]

First I want to say that your ring is absolutely stunning and I do not see a need to change it. I also completely understand that we all see things differently so maybe a halo would be just what you are looking for with your stone. I have noticed that many people here do not like halos on large stones but I do if they are done right. I have seen beautiful halos on diamonds up to 10 carats!

Here is a picture of a 3.92 ct halo that I LOVE!

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/introducing-my-3-92ct-oec-victor-canera-split-shank-halo.168492/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/introducing-my-3-92ct-oec-victor-canera-split-shank-halo.168492/[/URL]

 

[bigsparkles]

Hi Pheonix,

I love all your rings.... I am in the market for a 3 carat... your ring is beautiful. What is the price you are looking to sell your diamond for? Is there a personal message functionality on PS?

Thanks,
Sparkles

 

[decodelighted]

I'd sell everything & just get that 5ct. Asscher!

Halo, don't halo -- I kinda don't think it matters. This is your hobby. You like trying out things & seem to always have the means to undo whatever you DO do. Ha. I said DO DO.

Getting a halo is delaying the inevitable upgrade. But if you want to wait out the market & "play around" with the stone until you can ditch it for good -- eh, better than leaving it in a safe somewhere? BUT I agree w/everyone else that I don't see much difference between the 3 ct & the 5 ct RBs for even one post's worth of stress about it. At a certain point they just all look "big". I TRULY TRULY think 4ct would be a BIG MISTAKE. You've had 5ct in your head for years and anything short of that is ALSO going to be temporary. But your eyes are different than the rest of ours. Not many folks on here would go 5cts in a RB. At that size, EC's are much more elegant to my eye.

 

[Phoenix]

Hi Pheonix,

I love all your rings.... I am in the market for a 3 carat... your ring is beautiful. What is the price you are looking to sell your diamond for? Is there a personal message functionality on PS?

Thanks,
Sparkles

Hi Sparkles!

Thanks for your lovely compliment.

I've already had someone offer me a price $25k less than comps elsewhere. I can tell you more once we've managed to hook up via emails. Look for me in the Preloved forum.

 

[Phoenix]

I'd sell everything & just get that 5ct. Asscher!

Halo, don't halo -- I kinda don't think it matters. This is your hobby. You like trying out things & seem to always have the means to undo whatever you DO do. Ha. I said DO DO.

Getting a halo is delaying the inevitable upgrade. But if you want to wait out the market & "play around" with the stone until you can ditch it for good -- eh, better than leaving it in a safe somewhere? BUT I agree w/everyone else that I don't see much difference between the 3 ct & the 5 ct RBs for even one post's worth of stress about it. At a certain point they just all look "big". I TRULY TRULY think 4ct would be a BIG MISTAKE. You've had 5ct in your head for years and anything short of that is ALSO going to be temporary. But your eyes are different than the rest of ours. Not many folks on here would go 5cts in a RB. At that size, EC's are much more elegant to my eye.

Ha ha, I can't believe that anyone would say 4ct is a BIG MISTAKE, but I know where you're coming from!

As mentioned, I see lots of MASSIVE bling here in Singapore and Hong Kong, so I don't think my eyes are too big!

Hmmm...EC's huh? I kind of comtemplated an EC in addition to a larger RB. But I already have 2 LHR's (my pear and 3-stone rings) as well as this 3ct; so if I were to add an EC to my bling collection, I think DH may very well divorce me!!

 

[frankiextah]

phoenix you know i love your 3.02ct

selfishly speaking, it's a win win situation in the event that i would inherit this ring from you since i would want the same setting anyway hehehehe

honestly though...

looking at your collection it seems to me that you prefer clean, classic lines with fluidity. i would say the solitaire looks great on its own due to the size. but if you have the funds right now and need to give a new life to this amazing stone, i would support you go ahead with the re-set to give it a new life until you eventually upgrade to an even huger honker!

 

[Kasey3]

Hi Phoenix

I think you should check with Jonathon at GOG about consignment. He has very fair rates-and will treat you right! I think you should sell while prices are high. You have wanted a larger stone for a long time now and you could do well for yourself right now with prices the way they are!

I also agree that a 5ct RB is not that much different than a 4ct-and I agree with Deco a 5ct EC would be to die for gorgeous! You should also check out the 5ct AVC that Jon has-it is absolutely stunning! I have seen it and in no way did I think yellow diamond! Just a thought!!!

 

[Mayk]

Phoenix

I will be in the minority. My first reaction was "absolutely" halo that huge diamond! One must remember I am a huge halo fan! So as I read all the comments and suggestions... I came back to "yes" again. You LOVE your pear halo... So I would think you would also love this as a halo. It's going to be amazingly blingy on your hand but that is so "you" !!! It's the least amount of dollars for maximum finger coverage

I also love a solitaire for all the reasons mentioned... But it sounds like if you're not significantly larger it's already feeling drab to you...

So that's my vote... I would just like to add... It's a crime your are not taking that beautiful ring out for air by wearing it. ...so I will sacrifice one of my fingers to give it some "appreciation time". I'll be sitting on the front porch with a box cutter and a camera waiting on the FedEx guy...just send it right over!

 

[Bliss]

I'm getting a slight tweaked version of the Emilya for my 1.91ct RB.

Here's another thought--redo your 3 stone w/ the 3 ct in the middle and halo your BGD blue 2.3ct instead!

Yes, yes and yes!!!!

Awww, Phoenix! You have exquisite taste and I can feel your excitement over this new idea like it's my own project I'm hemming and hawing over! I like to wear my favorite pieces every day and if I have one or two extra fab pieces, I end up favoring those and feel guilty that the other sparklies lie unloved in the jewelry box. I'll bet with your fabulous halo'd pear, the RB doesn't get as much action? And it is spectacular so you should definitely change it up so that it gets some love, too!

GAH! I love ALL of your bling!!!! Oh and in that finger shot with the huge asscher and RB next to your equally fab 3 carat RB - I think that YOURS stands out the most and is the one I would pick. It just looks like the nicest stone - whitest and most sparkly. And it holds its own very nicely.

Since you love big bling, why not make your 3 carat a three stone or five stone ring like Yssie's? That would be a REALLY super blingy ring!!!!! Like a super 5-stone??? Or do a three stone with the 3 carat and the 2+ carat studs as sides - angled down sharply this time for better proportions and fit? I don't know if you will love the 3 carat halo'd because you have halo'd lots of things but you don't do it to the 3 carat RB for a reason - I'm wondering what the reason is? Heehee...maybe you just love the look of a big yummy nekkid solitaire?

OR..since you want to reset the 3 carat because it's too high, reset it in a Tiffany Vatche setting and get Yekutiel from ID Jewelry to make a custom enhancer? Then you could wear the 3 carat as a solitaire and other days, bling it up with a 3-stone look???? The possibilities are endless!!!!!! Or halo the 3 carat and halo the other two side stones like the 3-stone Ritani look - MAJOR BLING BLING!!!! Hehehehe, to others these ideas would be over the top but I know they'll look amazing on you and you can totally rock it.

I also think you could rock a double halo around the 3 carat like Jennifer Hudson's fabulous e-ring. It would be like a gorgeous cocktail ring for your right hand...or as a huuuuge e-ring look.

Or...just sell everything to get a 5 carat RB!!!!!

 

[roppongi]

Phoenix:

Chiming in with my 2 cents because I love living vicariously through you and your projects

I do not think that you should halo your 3 carater, knowing how much you love your halo'd pear, how often will you really wear it? I think that you should 1) Upgrade it to a 4 carat + RBC or 2) Do what Bliss did with her solitaire, simple solitaire with an enhancer of large carat sidestones. These two choices will definitely add to your jewelry arsenal.

I recently inquired about selling my 3.01 F/S11 and was offered 60K, the stone that I want is 4 carat H/VS2 with a pricetag of 125K, my budget was 40K, I am clearly out of the market and will probably not be able to upgrade to the color and clarity that I want; they did show me a 4 carat J/VS2 at 95K but I noticed the color and I couldn't live with that as my "engagement" ring. My husband asked me a very simple question, "Why don't I just get a different cut?" I answerered, "Because I wont wear it." I have a slew of eternity bands, but I don't think that I need more than one diamond ring.

Take your time and don't rush into anything...enjoy the process.

Happy New Year!

R.

 

[sapphirering]

Phoenix, since you have had the opportunity to try on a 5ct RB solitaire on your hand and love the look- I don't think you'll be happy with anything else. It's not like you're staring at a photo of a 5ct RB ring on the internet and going, oh my future preciousssss.... KWIM?

So I think it's just a matter of time before you get that paper weight on your paws. You seem happy with all the other rings you have so if it were me, I'd probably not change them. If selling the 3ct doesn't make financial sense, I would turn the ring into an art-decoish RHR or a three-stone ring but with colored side stones. I think a dinner ring with ruby or sapphire accents would be awesome and you can wear that on your right middle finger and one of your LHRs and it would not be too much. I know you said that your taste runs more to the minimalist side, but your beloved diamond bracelet has a vintagey vibe to me. I think you can tap more into it if you wish. Just my newbie suggestion.

 

[Dancing Fire]

I think it's a waste of money to upgrade your setting when we all know you are eventually gonna upgrade that.

Do you really think this is the way I'm heading? I wish I could find someone to buy my 3ct at a more favourable price!

no problem!!,if we can work out a 20 yr lay away plan..

 

[Phoenix]

Hi Pheonix,

I love all your rings.... I am in the market for a 3 carat... your ring is beautiful. What is the price you are looking to sell your diamond for? Is there a personal message functionality on PS?

Thanks,
Sparkles

Hi Sparkles!

Thanks for your lovely compliment.

I've already had someone offer me a price $25k less than comps elsewhere. I can tell you more once we've managed to hook up via emails. Look for me in the Preloved forum.

I think it might be better if I just list the price here, so you'll have a chance to think about it before contacting me. Since comps elsewhere are about $100k, what I'd like is perhaps 12-13% off that (I'd still have to pay a 3rd party a commission from the sales proceeds, to handle the sale).

This one has many inclusions (one is a crystal right at the table) and not even a triple Excellent like mine:
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1355001.asp

This one is a 60:60 diamond and has MBF but asking price is still $100k:
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1385254.asp

Another 60:60:
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Premium-Cut-Round-Diamond-1405612.asp

I'm not including stones with AGS certs, as when I' was enquiring recently, I was told that AGS can be slightly soft, ie. an F may not be an F but more prob a G /or closer to a G.

 

[Phoenix]

phoenix you know i love your 3.02ct

selfishly speaking, it's a win win situation in the event that i would inherit this ring from you since i would want the same setting anyway hehehehe

honestly though...

looking at your collection it seems to me that you prefer clean, classic lines with fluidity. i would say the solitaire looks great on its own due to the size. but if you have the funds right now and need to give a new life to this amazing stone, i would support you go ahead with the re-set to give it a new life until you eventually upgrade to an even huger honker!

Thank you, Frankie.

How's your plan w.r.t your upgrade to a 3ct?

I do prefer clean, classic lines with fluidity. You're 100% right about that. I'd prefer to let the diamonds shine, except where the diamonds are not large enough or if the diamonds are not ideal/ superideal cut (like in the case with my pear), he he!!

 

[Phoenix]

Phoenix, Check with Jon on what he consignment fee is. I thought the higher value the item the lower % they may take. Just email him and get the exact % straight from him so you have real numbers to work with instead of hypotheticals. Then you will have better info to make your decision. It sounds like you are wanting a huge solitaire so I don't think you should reset the stone into a halo at this point. Just pursue the consignment options and go from there. I'd also check with Wink, James Allen and Pearlmans b/c all of them take trades/do consignment I believe so you might as well shop around which vendor might be the best to sell it too.

Thank you, Mrs Salvo.

I shall enquire around. I did already make some enquiries but only with a couple of vendors before. I shall get in touch with the others, as suggested.

 

[Phoenix]

Phoenix

I will be in the minority. My first reaction was "absolutely" halo that huge diamond! One must remember I am a huge halo fan! So as I read all the comments and suggestions... I came back to "yes" again. You LOVE your pear halo... So I would think you would also love this as a halo. It's going to be amazingly blingy on your hand but that is so "you" !!! It's the least amount of dollars for maximum finger coverage

I also love a solitaire for all the reasons mentioned... But it sounds like if you're not significantly larger it's already feeling drab to you...

So that's my vote... I would just like to add... It's a crime your are not taking that beautiful ring out for air by wearing it. ...so I will sacrifice one of my fingers to give it some "appreciation time". I'll be sitting on the front porch with a box cutter and a camera waiting on the FedEx guy...just send it right over!

Thank you, Mayk.

I agree that to halo that baby would be the least expensive option - for now - for maximum bling coverage!!

Yeah, i love the look of an understated solitaire but it looks so small to *me* next to my pear and the 3-stone ring! And it *IS* a crime not to take the baby out for a walk, at least from time to time.

He he, you're too funny!! I keep conjuring up images of you sitting on the front porch with a box cutter, LOL!!

 

[tenyearanniversary]

I personally do not care for halo'ed RB. It looks like it's trying to make the stone look bigger, that's all.

I was recently in your situation for my 10-year upgrade. I kept trying on 3.5 carat RB's, and somehow they just did not SATISFY me and I have size 3.5 fingers too. I think in my area (NY), it was really not worth upgrading unless I was going to go to at least 4 carats or more.

I decided on an antique cushion, and I am head over heels in love with it.

Perry Chen at Leon Mege sold my RB for a good price to a diamond cutter. Perhaps contact him?

 

[kenny]

I do not think Karl has signed exclusive Octavia cutting rights over to GOG.
Karl, please correct me if I'm wrong.

If you have the funds for a large Octavia but GOG does not have contacts for such large rough I'd certainly contact vendors like Graff who deal in boulders.
Money talks.

Besides, who needs rough?
If you have the funds buy an 8 ct asscher and have it cut down to a 5 ct Octavia.

Personally if I had the funds my jewelry box would have three Octavia rings, all 3 ct of natural color origin, one Fancy Red, One Fancy Vivid Blue and One Fancy Vivid Green.

Even if I could afford to own only one such ring it would be a 1 ct Fancy Vivid Blue Octavia, may be just Fancy Intense if I was poor.

The Octavia is by far the best diamond cut in the world. (Opps, IMHO)

Oh and no halo for any diamond large or small. (Opps, IMHO)
I think the Hope diamond looks particularly silly in a halo.

 

[Phoenix]

No, leave it alone; did you see Bliss's haloed ring and then the unhalo? I love your ring as it; it is gorgeous

Okie, I shouldn't complain since I did include this as an option, but 34 ppl out of 62 voted for this?!!

How do I wear it? It hasn't been worn for a few years now!!

 

[Phoenix]

I personally do not care for halo'ed RB. It looks like it's trying to make the stone look bigger, that's all.
I was recently in your situation for my 10-year upgrade. I kept trying on 3.5 carat RB's, and somehow they just did not SATISFY me and I have size 3.5 fingers too. I think in my area (NY), it was really not worth upgrading unless I was going to go to at least 4 carats or more.

I decided on an antique cushion, and I am head over heels in love with it.

Perry Chen at Leon Mege sold my RB for a good price to a diamond cutter. Perhaps contact him?

That's EXACTLY the purpose of a halo, ha ha!!

Did you ever post a thread of your antique cushion? It sounds really yummo!! What made you decide to go for that over an EC, if you don't mind my asking? I ask because in yr last thread, I thought you'd decided to go for an EC instead.

If you don't mind my asking, how much did you sell yr RB for and what were the specs? If this is too intrusive, pls forget my Q. It's just hard to gauge how much to ask for, as I've now had offers for very different prices from various sources.

Thank you.

 

[Phoenix]

I do not think Karl has signed exclusive Octavia cutting rights over to GOG.
Karl, please correct me if I'm wrong.

If you have the funds for a large Octavia but GOG does not have contacts for such large rough I'd certainly contact vendors like Graff who deal in boulders.
Money talks.

Besides, who needs rough?
If you have the funds buy an 8 ct asscher and have it cut down to a 5 ct Octavia.

Personally if I had the funds my jewelry box would have three Octavia rings, all 3 ct of natural color origin, one Fancy Red, One Fancy Vivid Blue and One Fancy Vivid Green.

Even if I could afford to own only one such ring it would be a 1 ct Fancy Vivid Blue Octavia, may be just Fancy Intense if I was poor.

The Octavia is by far the best diamond cut in the world. (Opps, IMHO)

Oh and no halo for any diamond large or small. (Opps, IMHO)
I think the Hope diamond looks particularly silly in a halo.

Ha ha, very cute and very funny post, Kenny!!

I don't have that kind of money, Kenny, but am glad that you think I do, he he!!

Do you think Karl and/ or Jon would mind if I contacted Karl directly? Would that be very unethical? I'd absolutely KILL (yes, KILL, KILL!!) for a 5ct Octavia!!

 

[Circe]

Get a halo of french-cut diamonds.

 

[tenyearanniversary]

I personally do not care for halo'ed RB. It looks like it's trying to make the stone look bigger, that's all.
I was recently in your situation for my 10-year upgrade. I kept trying on 3.5 carat RB's, and somehow they just did not SATISFY me and I have size 3.5 fingers too. I think in my area (NY), it was really not worth upgrading unless I was going to go to at least 4 carats or more.

I decided on an antique cushion, and I am head over heels in love with it.

Perry Chen at Leon Mege sold my RB for a good price to a diamond cutter. Perhaps contact him?

That's EXACTLY the purpose of a halo, ha ha!!

Did you ever post a thread of your antique cushion? It sounds really yummo!! What made you decide to go for that over an EC, if you don't mind my asking? I ask because in yr last thread, I thought you'd decided to go for an EC instead.

If you don't mind my asking, how much did you sell yr RB for and what were the specs? If this is too intrusive, pls forget my Q. It's just hard to gauge how much to ask for, as I've now had offers for very different prices from various sources.

Thank you.

Haha! Touche!! I guess I just feel like the RB more than some other shapes in a halo just looks like it's "trying" pretty hard.

In NY, or HK, or Singapore, any other big city, you see the tai tai's tooting around with their 4+ ct RB's and it's a good nonchalant everyday look.....putting a halo around it takes away from the look in my opinion.....

I did already buy the EC....Leon and Perry did some fancy footwork for me to return it and get the antique cushion instead......

Really I wanted a halo cushion from the beginning. I did not really like the modern cushion cut, but I was apprehensive about getting an antique cushion, a cut that I have hardly ever seen IRL at all.

I wouldn't mind sharing, but my husband doesn't want me to post any details about my old or new stone because I had a bad experience with a dog forum

I just got the ring appraised, and David Wolfe told me diamond prices are only going up regardless of the economy. In F color, it's going to go up even more because of the Chinese and Indian market.

I never posted pics.....I will try to soon when I figure out how to work my camera better!!

I can't wait to see what you end up getting!!!!!!! You have a gorgeous collection already!!!!

 

[partgypsy]

I like halos in cushions in other unusual shapes. I don't particularly care for halos around round stones, particularly larger round stones, as someone saws it starts to look saucer-like. for the 3 carat I actually love it as a solitare, but if not a relatively subtle setting with side stones to accent the size of the center stone.
Personally, the 3 carat looks humongous to me, and seriously not much different than the 5 carat (how can that be?)

So, if you won't be satisfied with the 3 carat I can almost predict as time goes on even larger sizes will get even more proportionality expensive, so it won't help holding onto the 3 carater to get to that price. I don't know if selling the 3 carat stone, no matter how beautiful, you will be able to sell for 13% off retail price. If you really want the 4 carat even with selling the 3 carater, it will cost big bucks. But if you can do it, do it. You only live once.

 

[tenyearanniversary]

So, if you won't be satisfied with the 3 carat I can almost predict as time goes on even larger sizes will get even more proportionality expensive, so it won't help holding onto the 3 carater to get to that price. I don't know if selling the 3 carat stone, no matter how beautiful, you will be able to sell for 13% off retail price. If you really want the 4 carat even with selling the 3 carater, it will cost big bucks. But if you can do it, do it. You only live once.

I can definitely see a big difference between a 3 and a 3.5 and 4 and a 5 carat'er. But I really agree with this!! As diamond prices go up, I would think the price of a 4 or 5 carat would go up more than the price of a 3 carat would go up, all other things being equal. This is what you want....you will do it eventually....better to do it sooner rather than later because you will have more time to enjoy it and love looking at it!!!

p.s.: This is not to take away from the fact that you have a gorgeous collection already!!!

 

[CaprineSun]

I guess I just feel like the RB more than some other shapes in a halo just looks like it's "trying" pretty hard.

I now feel the same as you, but usually on very poorly-done halos. It's like stick any halo around it -- no matter how bulky or ugly-- as long as it makes it look bigger.
I feel differently about well-done and executed halos on rounds. They are stunning.

But, what about cushion-shaped halos for an RB-- since the halo will be an 'unusual' shape. What's your opinion on those?

I'm back now trying to figure out if I want a halo or clean solitaire for my RB.

 

[CaprineSun]

First I want to say that your ring is absolutely stunning and I do not see a need to change it. I also completely understand that we all see things differently so maybe a halo would be just what you are looking for with your stone. I have noticed that many people here do not like halos on large stones but I do if they are done right. I have seen beautiful halos on diamonds up to 10 carats!

Here is a picture of a 3.92 ct halo that I LOVE!

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/introducing-my-3-92ct-oec-victor-canera-split-shank-halo.168492/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/introducing-my-3-92ct-oec-victor-canera-split-shank-halo.168492/[/URL]

And THAT ring is what has me drooooling over halos again!

 

[partgypsy]

I'm sorry if my advice seems blunt, but this is not the first time I've read a thread about you and a 4 carat diamond. We have all had situations where we have had a strong crush on a particular stone or setting and it fades. I don't get that sense from you. On the contrary if you could swing a 5+ carat round I'd think you would go for it! So I think you should go ahead and do what you need to to make that happen.

 

[Phoenix]

[Haha! Touche!! I guess I just feel like the RB more than some other shapes in a halo just looks like it's "trying" pretty hard.

In NY, or HK, or Singapore, any other big city, you see the tai tai's tooting around with their 4+ ct RB's and it's a good nonchalant everyday look.....putting a halo around it takes away from the look in my opinion.....

I did already buy the EC....Leon and Perry did some fancy footwork for me to return it and get the antique cushion instead......

Really I wanted a halo cushion from the beginning. I did not really like the modern cushion cut, but I was apprehensive about getting an antique cushion, a cut that I have hardly ever seen IRL at all.

I wouldn't mind sharing, but my husband doesn't want me to post any details about my old or new stone because I had a bad experience with a dog forum

I just got the ring appraised, and David Wolfe told me diamond prices are only going up regardless of the economy. In F color, it's going to go up even more because of the Chinese and Indian market.

I never posted pics.....I will try to soon when I figure out how to work my camera better!!

I can't wait to see what you end up getting!!!!!!! You have a gorgeous collection already!!!!

Ha ha, too CUTE!! Believe you me, if I had a 4ct+, I would not want to halo it either!

No worries, I totally understand. I am glad you found a stone that makes your heart sing. Can't wait to see pics.

Thanks for yr help and yr kind words! XO