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Should I break up this ruby ring?

icy_jade

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Gah! I used to be so much more frivolous and glam in my tastes. I’m definitely getting more conservative as I get older. Looking at more wearable every day stuff. Even bands, which never used to interest me at all.

Is it the pandemic? I mean, I have stuff that I haven’t worn in ages but I’m assuming that in 2-3 years when things go back to normal they will come out of storage.

Plus the older one gets, the bigger the bling is... you know what I mean? This one is just big and fabulous looking.

But ok if you have really decided, want a matching set of earrings/rings, then we are totally going to be supportive of course.
 

Ionysis

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I think a lot of it is that I just cannot resist pulling my jewellery apart and putting it back together again, in new ways. Godlike, I feel if I “made” it I feel like I can unmake it LOL! Strangely I never break up anything I bought as a ready made item.
 

Niel

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I think a lot of it is that I just cannot resist pulling my jewellery apart and putting it back together again, in new ways. Godlike, I feel if I “made” it I feel like I can unmake it LOL! Strangely I never break up anything I bought as a ready made item.

I was thinking about your ring and while I’d still size to a more comfortable ring- if you do change it, I’d set the pears in an eternity where the pears are set at a 45 degree angle... or some other interesting way
 

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lambskin

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If you want to make it more wearable on more occasions then I would remove the diamonds and set it in a very yellow gold heavy bezel witrout the diamonds and use the diamonds elsewhere. I love ruby cabachons simply set in yellow gold. Timeles.
 

ringo865

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I know you didn’t say this, but how about a pendant or even a ringdant. Seriously tho, have that center stone looked at. Those are pretty large diamond pears to be clustered with “glass” ruby. (Not impossible, mind you) Heated probably, but couldn’t hurt to get a gemologist to peer at it.

I love both settings, but sounds like you’ll enjoy the matched set more.
 

Ionysis

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I’ve taken some close up in the sunshine photos which I think show the flux filling in this.

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I think I am going to break it up. Make the ruby more of a “fashion” piece to match the earrings - I can get that pave design made up for a few hundred bucks.

Then do something more classic with the diamonds.

I really do like that eternity band - although I will probably go for a half. And I think earrings too.

First step is to take it to the jeweller and get it evaluated. It is probably worth having the stone checked - not to get a cert but just to be sure.
 
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voce

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You can do whatever you want, but I wouldn't spend the money to make a fashion piece. If you feel the ruby doesn't "deserve" the diamonds, you'll just have spent more money to reset the ruby, which reminds me of the phrase "good money after bad". I would personally just gift it away or sell it, as there is nothing particularly special about those diamonds. White diamonds in that size are widely available, and it's just as easy (actually, imo, even easier) to start making a band or a tennis bracelet with loose diamonds, which you don't have to remove from the ring.
 

ringo865

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So lovely.

I love the half eternity band and earrings idea. Then you get another matching set.

I wanna know your jeweler who will create that pave ring for a few hundred dollars. I might have to go there!
 

Mreader

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So lovely.

I love the half eternity band and earrings idea. Then you get another matching set.

I wanna know your jeweler who will create that pave ring for a few hundred dollars. I might have to go there!

Same! I was thinking the project would be more expensive.
 

Ionysis

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I live in Abu Dhabi. And I get a lot of jewellery made so my jeweller charges me reasonably. A setting in gold usually costs me c. AED 1,500 - about $400. The setting of my sapphire in platinum cost me AED 2,500 - c. $700. The settings for the pave ruby earrings above were AED 4,500 - about $1,250. They are all handmade not cast and custom designs.

If I went down to the other jeweller I use in Dubai it’s about 20% cheaper because they use the lost wax method and are a massive enterprise with a huge workshop. Also I’ve been dealing with them for 15 years so again I get good prices.

This is why, living here, funding my hobby isn’t too painful.
 

Ionysis

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You can do whatever you want, but I wouldn't spend the money to make a fashion piece. If you feel the ruby doesn't "deserve" the diamonds, you'll just have spent more money to reset the ruby, which reminds me of the phrase "good money after bad". I would personally just gift it away or sell it, as there is nothing particularly special about those diamonds. White diamonds in that size are widely available, and it's just as easy (actually, imo, even easier) to start making a band or a tennis bracelet with loose diamonds, which you don't have to remove from the ring.

I like the stone - as I’ve already said. I just feel it should have a more “appropriate” dress. I don’t see spending $700 on a setting for it as as waste.

It might be easier to start with loose diamonds but 18 quite well matched pear shaped diamonds in a G colour VS clarity and with a total weight of 4.5cts is going to be a teensy bit more expensive and challenging to acquire than re setting the ruby - which I want to keep and actually wear!
 
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I was about to say if you feel it's not practical, getting it changed to the Bayco type design would be nice (I like it, it's very sleek). I like something like @meely's emerald cab design too.

Then I saw the side view photo of the ruby ring and now I feel it's a shame to change the setting - it's lovely and quite unique. :kiss2: Looks well made too.

How about changing the setting for the ruby to the Bayco type one or something else and keeping the old setting as is and putting another centre stone in it? A flatter or an opaque/translucent stone might feel more wearable both style-wise and comfort-wise?

I feel somewhat sad seeing so many beautiful settings being taken apart on PS for the stones, though that isn't to say I'm against changing stones or settings per se, and would do the same if it felt right.

Is this ring the one in your profile photo? It looks kind of vintage but is it quite modern then? I think I may be confused but I thought flux residues in rubies were a relatively recent thing (like 1970/80s onwards) - perhaps someone more knowledgeable might be able to fill me in (no pun intended). :D
 

Laurainthesky

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If it is glass filled, unsetting it could destroy the stone. Fine if flux healed. My vote is usually doing what you will actually wear.
 

bright&shiny

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I love the inspiration photo and it instantly reminded me of your new earring. I say go for it. Loved the double row eternity band idea, too.
 

Gloria27

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Swap the diamonds with CZ so you can preserve the ring design as is.
Win - Win
 

qubitasaurus

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Err I think you should write down a list of the reasons why you are not currently wearing it and why you want to reset it.

Then ask how many of these will be resolved by the new design. Finally ask if you had to pay 2 k to reset, would resolving these points be worth 2 k /+ assuming the whole finished piece costs 2 k what will be your predicted cost per wear?
 

Ionysis

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I’m taking the ruby ring to the jewellers today to get an opinion on what treatment the ruby has had.

I might start by getting the band made wider at the bottom and sized to fit my index finger. Then see if I wear it. The fact it’s uncomfortable and I can only fit it on the fourth finger if my left hand is definitely a major reason why I get it out, try it on, then put it back. If I could wear it on my pointer finger I think it would perhaps get some use for brunches. Which are one of the few social activities still going on these days.

Then if I still haven’t worn it in 6 months I can revisit.
 

dk168

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I like the ring as it is, however, I am also in the camp for re-purposes unloved/unsuitable pieces into something more wearable.

As for wearing rings so hefty that they would hurt my hands when clapping, that happens regularly as I prefer rings with wider shanks.

My usual RHR is a chunky 5mm wide platinum band with a small EC set East-West, and I often pet the dog with it, much to his annoyance as it hurts his little head! :lol-2:

DK :))
 

Ionysis

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So I just happened to go past the gold and diamond park today and fell through the door accidentally. Look what I found. A diamond bangle to match my ruby ring that I decided not to destroy (yet).

The smaller one has stones almost the exact same size as the ruby (.18ct each). The larger one has pears which are .35ct each.

So now I know what a bangle made with those pears would look like.

But of course NOW I don’t want to break up the ring because I can get my matching set by buying one of these bangles. I knew coming here was a mistake.

Which would you get - the smaller or larger one? Both G /H colour VS clarity.
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Mreader

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So I just happened to go past the gold and diamond park today and fell through the door accidentally. Look what I found. A diamond bangle to match my ruby ring that I decided not to destroy (yet).

The smaller one has stones almost the exact same size as the ruby (.18ct each). The larger one has pears which are .35ct each.

So now I know what a bangle made with those pears would look like.

But of course NOW I don’t want to break up the ring because I can get my matching set by buying one of these bangles. I knew coming here was a mistake.

Which would you get - the smaller or larger one? Both G /H colour VS clarity.
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Whoops I hate it when that happens! Falling through the doors of jewelry stores! :lol-2: I can't believe I am saying this because for me when it comes to diamonds I like bigger ones but I think I like the second picture best.
 

fantapanda

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So I just happened to go past the gold and diamond park today and fell through the door accidentally. Look what I found. A diamond bangle to match my ruby ring that I decided not to destroy (yet).

The smaller one has stones almost the exact same size as the ruby (.18ct each). The larger one has pears which are .35ct each.

So now I know what a bangle made with those pears would look like.

But of course NOW I don’t want to break up the ring because I can get my matching set by buying one of these bangles. I knew coming here was a mistake.

Which would you get - the smaller or larger one? Both G /H colour VS clarity.
0DACB7FF-2E7B-4893-86FC-7C9898DBE1B5.jpeg B360FFF9-13ED-431D-934D-568C05168027.jpeg

That's a nice "problem" to have, this random falling through doors of jewelery stores! Both bracelets look gorgeous so going back to the original point of this thread where you mentioned not wearing the ring as much because it is blingy, which bracelet will you wear more as a set with the ring? The smaller one sounds like it'll be better for "everyday" wear with your ring but if you're planning on the set being an occasion wear type deal, then the bigger one sounds amazing. Either one looks amazing on their own too.
 

bright&shiny

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You cracked me up! I think the second one fits better and looks lovely. However, if there’s a chance of repurposing, then i’d vote for the larger stones.:kiss2:

Ps where is that park? ????
 

Ionysis

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The gold and diamond park is a whole mall full of jewellery stores in dubai. I haven’t been there for over a year because of Covid. Have had major withdrawal symptoms. I “popped in” after a work meeting and ended up there for over 2 hours. Oops.

I think I actually like the smaller one too. Unusually for me. I’ve got to go back and collect a little pendant I’m having made so I will wear my resized ruby ring when I go back and see. I actually do think that being able to get it on my index finger will make a difference. I really hated it on my fourth finger, both look and feel.
 

bright&shiny

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The gold and diamond park is a whole mall full of jewellery stores in dubai. I haven’t been there for over a year because of Covid. Have had major withdrawal symptoms. I “popped in” after a work meeting and ended up there for over 2 hours. Oops.

I think I actually like the smaller one too. Unusually for me. I’ve got to go back and collect a little pendant I’m having made so I will wear my resized ruby ring when I go back and see. I actually do think that being able to get it on my index finger will make a difference. I really hated it on my fourth finger, both look and feel.

Lol, I thought the “park” was a euphemism I can’t wait to see them together!
 
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