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So at the same time as my multistone ring (in another thread) I had another one in the works which is a small Jedi rough set in blackened gold.
We agreed on the CAD and the bench got to work. They just sent me pics of the finished ring, which I love except for one thing: I feel like I could see a little black from beneath the stone.
In the CAD it is not specified where the gold is blackened (not sure about the correct term for it), I guess I kind of assumed (didn’t really consciously think about it) that the inside of the basket will not be blackened.
The bench assured me that it makes no big difference, and took another daylight pic, but I still feel like I could see a little black background.
Now I am uncertain about what to do. They obviously don’t want to redo anything, and it might be a hassle if I insist. I might be able to live with it (perhaps I can convince myself it gones with the vibe of the ring), but should I?
Would appreciate your opinions and advice, thanks in advance!

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I would ask for it to be redone. I am a certified fusspot. I do think I can see a black line under the stone. Plus my worry is it is darkening the stone. If they said it makes "no big difference" I would interpret that to mean "it makes a difference". You should be happy. If the CAD did not specify where the blackened gold would be in relation to the basket, I think you are within your rights to ask for a redo. If you are a good customer, and it sounds like you are, I don't think they should flinch. There may even be some chemical that would remove it from the basket? Just guessing, I really don't know. I do know that once you start questioning something about jewelry, that question rarely goes away and you deserve just total happiness with a custom ring!
 
Do you have a profile picture? Is the stone opaque or transparent?

I am unsure if I am seeing black or it’s just a reflection of the keel that seems to run across the face of the stone.

It’s super cool btw.
 
Thank you folks!
I asked for another picture from the back, as it came to my mind that if it’s not completely closed-back, perhaps it really does not impact as much? Would the basket sides be reflected if it’s open in most cases?
The bench wants me to pay the final payment first and they can send me the ring to see for myself. They haven’t made any promises though.
I do love the ring except for that one concern.
The stone is neither completely crystalline nor completely opaque.

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Given this new consideration perhaps it does not need to be changed after all? I agree it is not first instinct to leave the insides if it’s open.
 
I do not think you should pay and accept it until it is how you want it. In the middle picture I feel I see black, on either side of the reflection of the keel. I doubt anyone would notice but you. And me because you mentioned it. But I still say a custom ring should be pure joy.
PS Is there a kind of ridge on the stone? in the middle, towards bottom half in this picture? It could just be the play of colors, so I cannot decide if I am seeing the outline of the basket there too, because it may be a spot of more translucence? See what you think.

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I feel I see this rough shape in the stone, more pronounced on the bottom, and it may correspond to basket opening. Have a look. I cannot be sure if it is interplay of stone colors. Ring 2.JPG
 
I do not think you should pay and accept it until it is how you want it. In the middle picture I feel I see black, on either side of the reflection of the keel. I doubt anyone would notice but you. And me because you mentioned it. But I still say a custom ring should be pure joy.
PS Is there a kind of ridge on the stone? in the middle, towards bottom half in this picture? It could just be the play of colors, so I cannot decide if I am seeing the outline of the basket there too, because it may be a spot of more translucence? See what you think.

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Thank you Odyssey! Yes this is the exact thing that’s giving me pause, but now I don’t know if it’s actually avoidable, or reasonable anymore for me to insist on a change if it’s not a standard thing:(
And yes there’s a small ridge so that part is okay!
 
Thank you Odyssey! Yes this is the exact thing that’s giving me pause, but now I don’t know if it’s actually avoidable, or reasonable anymore for me to insist on a change if it’s not a standard thing:(
And yes there’s a small ridge so that part is okay!

Ok, whew. I was worried I was seeing the basket outline. I do think it is the way the stone sits on the basket outline, which will be black, that is showing some blackness. It may not be avoidable, you're right because maybe gold would show a shadow too. It is so hard to say without the ring in your hand. I would try to clarify at least that they will let you send it back to redo the part that gives you pause if it bothers you in person.
 
I don't think I see a problem. In the tweezer photo there's clearly a section of the stone which is more transparent and you see more through it. The darker areas seen with the stone already set in the ring match. When I first opened the thread, I thought the band of blackened gold ran underneath the stone, but then I saw it's an open basket. So my guess would be that removing the blackening won't change much, really.

With that said, if it bothers you, I don't see how this would be a difficult or labour intensive fix. They just need to remove the stone, polish the inside of the basket and put the stone back in. They don't have to make the entire ring from scratch. Should be a quick and easy job.
 
How much did you get to play with the stone loose? Did you notice background color thru the stone at that point?
Not as a you should have known, but a it might not be noticeable on the hand, thing.

IMO if a jeweler knew they needed to polish off the blackening directly under the stone - instead of not - the quote given might be different.
Once again - imo and from what I’ve experienced - redo’s due to miscommunications, unexpected results, or subpar work when the jeweler think’s there’s ’no big difference’ but the fix is wanted, comes back with a different problem /sloppy rework.
I’m no help - sorry. I know others have gotten reworks done without those issues.

Pretty cool ring!
 
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Stone looks the same to me loose about does set.
 
So when I first saw the ring, I thought I could see an outline of the blackened band through the stone. I was absolutely going to vote for a redo. But then you showed the back, and there is a proper open basket there. I thought the stone was sitting directly on a pronged band. So what I'm seeing is clearly not the band showing through... it is negative space. I think it may look the same whether the perimeter of the basket is blackened or not. However, if it is bothering you (and I understand why), it must be redone. Because it likely won't stop irritating you as time goes on. And it's really a simple fix. They remove the stone and polish off the finish in that area. They should accommodate you, but if not, your local jeweler should be able to do it for a nominal fee.

It's a gorgeous ring and so unique!!
 
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