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One of the online retailers mentioned to me that he thought a 3.9mm width ring was too wide for a 1 carat princess cut diamond. Is that true? What width would be best? I know she wants something with some width, not narrow, but I don''t think we want the stone to be hidden by the size of the ring....
Advice please!
 
I''m thinking 3-3.5 mm. I was wondering why you were going with the 3.9 since "thin" is all the rage right now, but since she wants it, it''s all good. Remember there''s going to be a wedding band later.
 
Then again, the Vatche X-prong is probably closer to 4 mm, so it sort of depends on the setting. You want a substantial look without being clunky.
 
I guess it depends on your hands (finger length, hand size). I like the super thin ones, but I wouldn''t go thicker than 3.5 mm. And JulieN is right, you''ll have to keep in mind that you might wear a wedding band with it.

I think thinner bands show case the centerstone more, where as if it''s too thick, it makes the stone look smaller (IMO)
 
I think 3 mm would be a nice width. If the wedding band is 2mm that would give you 5 total which is quite substantial IMO.
 
I think that can be true, especially since 1 carat princesses are somewhere in the 5mm range.

I have a 1 carat cushion. The length is 6.10 and I have it in a Jeff Cooper Setting that is 4 mm that tapers down to 3 mm. It doesn''t look thick to me at all. I think the reason is the style..the edges of the band are beveled, giving the illusion of being a little more tapered than it is. I love my ring but I made sure to choose a diamond that fit Jeff Coopers specs for this setting...a square 6mmx6mm diamond.

Vatche''s xprong is about 4 mm too, as JulieN said. I didn''t choose that setting because it seemed wider to me than the JC. Also, I was able to compare a similar stone in a thinner setting when I got my mom''s cushion set in a much thinner band. I really didn''t think that my cushion suffered visually from being in a thicker setting. However, as a general rule, I agree with the others that thinner bands make the stone pop more (I''m just biased toward loving my ring I guess!)
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I have an x-prong that is thick... I have my 6x6 ish asscher in there and my band is about 4 mm. It''s a sturdy setting... it doesn''t look bulky because the lines are fluid... but it does make my diamond look smaller than it is. I''m resetting it in a halo to make the center stone look bigger and getting a 1.7-2mm band on the sucker to emphasize that. BUT I have been looking at settings for a while now and I took in a CZ asscher I pried out of a stud earing (bought specifically for that purpose) into jewelry stores with me when I was searching... even 3 mm made a huge impact. The 6x6 asscher looked MUCH bigger and noticable in even a band with 3mm in width. So I would go with 3 mm, personally. Myuncles wife has a 1.7 carat princess set in a 3 mmish setting come to think of it.. and hers is bezel set. Looks much bigger than my asscher.
 
don''t forget to leave room for a wedding band, assuming not a rhr.
 
This is the ring I was thinking of using, 3.9mm. Again, the rock would be a princess, 1 - 1.1 carat.
What do you think?

Thanks!
 
I think that if you meant to include a picture it didn''t work.
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I definitely think that''s going to overshadow your diamond at 3.9. I repeat my 3mm suggestion.
 
Date: 6/10/2006 7:50:21 PM
Author: JulieN
I''m thinking 3-3.5 mm. I was wondering why you were going with the 3.9 since ''thin'' is all the rage right now, but since she wants it, it''s all good. Remember there''s going to be a wedding band later.
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Ummm...my e-ring is 6 mm. Guess I am out of style!
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I have VERY small hands/short fingers and can comfortably wear 10 mm. If she wants a thicker band go for it. What is the mm of your stone? Maybe I would go 1 mm less for the band.
 
Date: 6/10/2006 7:44:46 PM
Author:kbesner
One of the online retailers mentioned to me that he thought a 3.9mm width ring was too wide for a 1 carat princess cut diamond. Is that true? What width would be best? I know she wants something with some width, not narrow, but I don''t think we want the stone to be hidden by the size of the ring....
Advice please!
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Hi Kbesner ~
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Things to think about ...

Is she going to wear just one ring? If so, then you might want to go with a wide type band.

If she is going to wear an ering with one or two wedding type bands ... then something not so wide to accomodate all of the rings when they will be together.

Also, as mentioned before ... how much fingerage does she have to play with?

Is this a surprise? Or has she tried on other rings that were wide?

I love the look of a wide band, however on me ... it looks awful~
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I don''t have much spacing!

Also, with a band that is about 4mm wide, I don''t think your gonna get your diamond to "POP" like it might in another kind of setting/band. It is really amazing what a band can do or not do for a diamond.

Good luck and have a great week!
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http://www.bluenile.com/diamonds_details.asp?pid=LD00441549&filter_id=0

An interesting stone. They small table+high crown+suspicious 1.002 carats suggests weight retention, but the 37.4 crown angle isn''t that extreme. Any time you issue a cut grade, it would make sense to the cutter to cut the heaviest stone that would get an ideal. The AGS system is built so that stones which face up smaller than their carat weight suggests is penalized under the proportions grade. Here, you have 0 for light performance and proportions, but a 1 on finish (that''s nothing to worry about.)

Any other AGS BN stones F+ VS1+ took either hits in performance or proportions.
 
She has some other fashion rings that are quite wide, and she has said she likes a wide ring. My concern was more about how good or bad a princess cut diamond would look on the 3.9mm ring.
The width of the diamonds I am looking at seem to be in the 5.7mm range.
 
my band is 3.9 mm and I think my princess is 6.5 mm... it''s 1.5 Ct

I love a wide band as welll, however, IMO if I were getting 1 Ct, I would probably go down to a 3 mm. I also think anything wider would minimize the diamond.

Can you sacrafice some clarity to get a bigger stone maybe?
 
I think if you with a wider band it needs to have diamonds down the sides.I even like a princess cut turned on its point. I have a yellow diamond set like that....But a ring going north to south looks better on my fingers.Does that make any since at all?????
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Its not a money issue, I think both her and I agree that anything much bigger than 1 carat looks a little too big. Personal preference I guess. I guess I thought the idea was to have roughly 1mm larger than the band on either side, so I figured a 5.7mm would look well on a 3.9mm band.

Don''t suppose anyone has an example photo of something like this??

Thanks again!
 
I personally think it would look fine. My diamond does not "hang over" much. Maybe 1mm on each side. Is there anyway you can see it in person so you know you like it? She obviously loves wider rings so I would go with one.
 
My ring is about 1mm larger than the band, as far as "hangover".
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Like Tacori, I like a thicker band...because I love the sheen of the metal *almost* as much as I love the diamond...

ETA: the DIAMOND is 1mm larger than the band on each side...so 2 mm total.

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One more so you can see it by itself...

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I''m with Tacori E-ring and think the width of the band you guys like would look fine with the size of diamond you''re looking at. I''ve got a round 1.22ct that''s about 6.9mm on a 5mm shank and personally love the way it looks. I like a substantial ring. My wedding band is 4mm. I''ve got a 6.25 finger that''s more on the long slim side (6'' tall) if that helps. I''ve had lots of compliments on my set (very plain semi-bezel setting and plain gold band) from total strangers at work, so I''m obviously not the only one who thinks this setting combo looks good!

Is there any way you can try on a similar style of setting and similar size stone at a jeweler to see if she really loves it on?

I know a lot of people on PS think having a thin band makes the diamond pop more, but it''s really a matter of personal preference. The size of diamond you''re looking at is not exactly small either...

Have fun deciding!
Kate
 
TG, your band is the perfect width for your diamond! I am so glad you posted it so he could see an example.
 
Date: 6/12/2006 10:59:16 PM
Author: drk

Is there any way you can try on a similar style of setting and similar size stone at a jeweler to see if she really loves it on?

I know a lot of people on PS think having a thin band makes the diamond pop more, but it''s really a matter of personal preference. The size of diamond you''re looking at is not exactly small either...

Have fun deciding!
Kate
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I think this would be a wise move!
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Sometimes it''s hard to tell from a picture what it would really look like in person. I absolutely love Tacori''s Ering
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... but 10 mm would not fit
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, it would have a different type of hangover ... a knuckle hanger ~ over! I wish I had more fingerage!!!

If you want the stone to "pop" there are many wide bands out there, some blend more with the diamond than others ... some showcase the diamond better, etc ... All in all, it will come down to personal preferance.

I think if she likes it, and loves it, then it''s a no brainer! Get her what she loves, and she will be happy!
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Have a great week!
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Date: 6/12/2006 6:49:04 PM
Author: TravelingGal
One more so you can see it by itself...
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Umm... drooling all over my keyboard. TG... have I ever told you how much I LOVE YOUR CUSHION!

I was reading this thread again and had a thought. Especially after seeing TG''s cushion. My asscher (which seems over powered by it''s setting) is step cut. It draws the eye inward. Which is why I think it tends to be overpowered by it''s setting, and why Wallermama''s asscher looked so much better with the satin finished setting. Non-step cuts this size sparkle and shine and draw your eye outward0--- so I think perhaps they could be set with thicker bands without overshadowed so easily.

Don''t know if that makes sense to anyone but me...
 
It makes sense to me Gypsy...and thanks for the compliment. Cushions aren''t for everyone, but I really dig mine. Probably because it is more square than some of the others I''ve seen...the corners are rounded, but somehow the edges are straighter heading into the corners And I see a little 4 petal "flower" in the center in diffused lighting conditions...just so fun and pretty.

Asschers are so gorgeous, and so I agree that a setting like mine would not do it justice. In fact, I am sure I could pull up a dozen different setting on PS that would make my cushion look "better", but in the end the setting - like the diamond - needs to speak to you. Mine works for me...I''m a simple, no nonsense gal.
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Date: 6/13/2006 1:19:24 AM
Author: TravelingGal
It makes sense to me Gypsy...and thanks for the compliment. Cushions aren''t for everyone, but I really dig mine. Probably because it is more square than some of the others I''ve seen...the corners are rounded, but somehow the edges are straighter heading into the corners And I see a little 4 petal ''flower'' in the center in diffused lighting conditions...just so fun and pretty.

Asschers are so gorgeous, and so I agree that a setting like mine would not do it justice. In fact, I am sure I could pull up a dozen different setting on PS that would make my cushion look ''better'', but in the end the setting - like the diamond - needs to speak to you. Mine works for me...I''m a simple, no nonsense gal.
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Cushions are totally for me. Trust me on this.
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Many''s the time I wish I''d KNOWN about cushion''s when DF was ring shopping. One just like your would have been perfect. As for the setting. Hmm. It does need to speak to the person. Split shanks speak to me. So something like the Daniel K split shank (only with less pave-- I know blasphemy. Love the pave on the prongs, would lose the pave on the shanks completely) would totally do it for me. I''m not no-nonsense. I like nonsense. LOL. Mmmm... cushions.
 
Date: 6/13/2006 1:26:22 AM
Author: Gypsy


Cushions are totally for me. Trust me on this.
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Many''s the time I wish I''d KNOWN about cushion''s when DF was ring shopping. One just like your would have been perfect. As for the setting. Hmm. It does need to speak to the person. Split shanks speak to me. So something like the Daniel K split shank (only with less pave-- I know blasphemy. Love the pave on the prongs, would lose the pave on the shanks completely) would totally do it for me. I''m not no-nonsense. I like nonsense. LOL. Mmmm... cushions.
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I LOVE the split shank. I wish I had looked into it a bit before I choose my setting...just to see prices, etc. Even though I am pretty much no nonsense, I am still scheming how to get Pokey to marry me so I can get my hands on that Leon split shank Tsavorite. I haven''t seen his fiancee to be yet, but I think I can take her...
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Is your current setting a vatche Gypsy?
 
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