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radiantbuyer12

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hey everyone I have a couple questions... I know this gets discussed a lot, and maybe it's personal preference, but I need helping regarding what a radiant diamond looks like from a sparkle perspective. So, for lack of a better word, I have seen many diamonds and the most recent one that I am considering is an E Si1. It's very pretty. As far as the sparkle or look, I have seen this "look" on several others but I'm not sure if it's a good thing, a bad thing or a personal thing. It basically has like a circle of sparkle in the middle. or a lot of fan blades. I assume this is the facet pattern on the pavillion showing more clearly than other diamonds?? Can you give advice please?

Also, it has medium blue fluor and that freaks me out. Is that bad? It is in no way milky or oily.
 
HI:

I am unable to articulate the sparkle from my radiant--like thousands of shards of light + color at one time. Mine doesn't not have the crushed ice appearance. You can definately see the faceting pattern in the centre of the stone, no different if you were looking in a well cut RB.

Can you not revisit the stone to see if it something you "just cannot live without"?

Personally, I do not care for flouro--but that is just MY preference.

ETA: there is a picture of my ring in this thread--you can clearly see the faceting here.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/radiant-help.181526/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/radiant-help.181526/[/URL]

cheers--Sharon
 
There are various cut patterns for each diamond shape, including radiants. There is the fan pattern and there is also the crushed ice look. Again, this is a personal like / dislike. Personally, I prefer a symmetrical pattern, rather than random looking. The same goes for fluorescence. Some love it and some hate it. It is neither good nor bad although there is a slight discount on strong blues in the D/E/F range. Again, fluorescence is a trait I love and seek out.
 
Thanks for the responses. Yes I could revisist the stone. I can't tell anything about the Fluro in the stone unless it's under the special light that the jeweler has. We took it outside and i didn't notice anything either. It's just very icy in color...or colorless. :) I was surprised I could tell that much of a difference between an E and G (obviously while comparing them). I was just concerned that the circle pattern of facets in the middle was a bad thing? It sounds like that is not the case. But it sparkles more (or bigger sparkles) than the other one that I was comparing it to. (I would consider the other one a bit more unorganzied and "crushed Ice") ? It was beautiful too.
 
HI:

I am not surprised you could tell the difference in color between radiants. I can easily see the different bertween in ER and my eternity ring,....there are two color grades betrween them.

What are you hoping to find in terms of "sparkle?" What do you desire?

What is the return policy of your jeweller?

cheers--Sharon
 
You should be able to see the colour difference of an E and G side by side. I am a bit unsure as to the purpose of your question with regards to this particular radiant. Do you like it? What is your concern?
 
Hi. Thanks again for the responses.

Yes, I do like it. but I was concerned about the noticeable pattern of facets in the "circle pattern" for lack of a better way to describe it. I wanted to hear from people on Pricescope if this was acceptable to be in the diamond.

Here is another question...what about a girdle that is extremely thin to medium? Does this cause a problem?
 
HI Everyone,
1) the term "crushed ice" has been totally bastardized- past the point of usefulness. Suffice t to say, I used the term to describe a positive aspect, others used it as a negative- which I feel is an injustice to the look.
2) Sharon- by your own description- a thousand shards of light- your stone ( which looks awesome in the photo!) is not sparkling like a round brilliant - or at least an H&A type of round light performance.
In person, based on the way I have used that term ( going back at least 10 years) I believe your stone would have that type of look I may have called crushed ice- photos can not really capture this particular look- because the eye can't focus in thousands of shard at one time, like a camera can.

radiantbuyer12- unfortunately, (or fortunately ), radiant cut diamonds are impossible to categorize the way it's done on this site for round diamonds.
Personally, I love an even type of sparkle- as opposed to one that shows a circle.
But that's only my personal preference, and I don't think what I ( or anyone else) likes matters to any given consumer as much as what their eyes tell them. Do you like the sparkle? Was the stone set into a ring, or loose?
With regards to fluoro on an E colored diamond- Medium or strong blue may not have an effect visually- or they may. If there is any effect, you'd have seen it ( positive makes the stone look "blue white"- negative makes it look hazy- but this is rare)- in either case a GIA graded E color will have a softer price by a few percent over a stone with no blue, in general.
Was the stone graded by GIA?
 
HI:

"Cause" a problem?

Extremely thin girdles are a "flag"--any diamond can "chip".

Insurance!

cheers--Sharon
 
Depends on where the extremely thin portion is and how large of an area.
 
Thanks for the replys and questions. I am looking at loose stones.

I just went and re-looked at it with the diamond broker/jeweler. The extemely thin area is on one of the corners, so it will be protected i suppose in the setting. Thoughts? The long sides of the diamond (its rectangular) are probably on the thin to medium side. they are definitely not "extremely thin." The diamond guy is not trying to push this stone on me at all from what I can tell. He is willing to bring in more stones if I wish. But he does really like this one because of the color and size. And he personally prefers the more organized facets as compared to the crushed ice or kaliedoscope look. I think they are both beautiful in their own way.

As for the fluoro...I compared it outside (in direct sun) to a stone with no fluoro and it didn't make a huge difference. If anything it made the E stand out more probably.

It faces up pretty large at 8.55 x 6.71. it is 2.05 carats. it has a small 59% table but i kind of like it actually. the depth is 69.4%. GIA graded.

i think i like it. just scared on making decisions. Any more thoughts?
 
any thoughts from you fine people?
 
The thing is, you've seen it and we haven't. None of us can advise anymore without an IS, ASET or seeing the radiant itself.
 
Good point. Thanks. Oh well, I guess I just want someone to make me feel like I am doing the right thing if I go for it. :) It's scary. haha.
 
HI:

Fancies have to be seen IRL, and you have seen the stone and like it! Will it be the most beautiful stone you ever see??--well, only you can answer that.

My stone has a large table and is deep. That would not bode well for a RB but works for my radiant. There was a gal here some time ago that had a stone with a smaller table and depth--similar to what you describe--and her stone faced up larger than mine for the same carat weight and was gorgeous. So what i am saying is, # combo's and different proportions in fancy cuts can work but they have to be pleasing to the person who is buying them. Some like them more square and some like them more rectangular. I don't mind my large table...you get the point.

And I agree, I like the faceting arrangement that is more organized--like a princess--but that is simply preference.

Is this stone within your parameters for budget? How do you plan on setting it? Have you looked outside of this jeweller for a comparison?

Yes the corner can be protected by the setting, but that is an area that can also chip, even during the setting process....any stone can. One must have insurance, FULL STOP.

cheers--Sharon
 
Thanks for your nice response Sharon.
 
HI:

Oh! My pleasure! :bigsmile: :wavey:

cheers--Sharon
 
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