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nope

Rough_Rock
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Are these specs AOK for a Radiant cut diamond?

What else am I looking for to find the perfect *stats* diamond?

Thanks for your help on this

VS2 or better
Ideal or Excellent cut
Color F, G, H
Would like it to be longer (6.5X5) more of an emerald then a square
Depth Percentage: 58-69%
Table: 58-69%
 

farmer gal

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I wouldn't worry so much about cut grades with radiants, I would shop somewhere with pictures so you can see them. For example JA will let you get asset images for up to three diamonds, which will give you an idea of light return. I don't know what your budget is but here are some examples.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VVS2-Good-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1336861.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VVS2-Good-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1344671.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VVS2-Premium-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1344878.asp

These are not the exact measurements you wanted but I think they all look really nice.
 

Amys Bling

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Have you picked those stats because you have seen radiant cut stones in person and that's your preference or did you puck them becaus they seem like a safe bet to you? Even if you are purchasing online I would like at radiant stones in person to determine your color "sweet spot". Fancy cut stones tend to show a bit more color than rounds so keep that in mind if you are buying by dates and not from in person experience.
 

Rockdiamond

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There's no "perfect stat stone" any more than there's a "perfect car" "perfect house" or anything else that is judged in a manner where subjective opinion comes into play.

In terms of color- as Amy suggested, you need to look at some diamonds and see.
If a J color is attractive to you ( it is to a fair number of shoppers) than it makes ZERO sense to shop for G+ stones.

There's also a number of different facet patterns you will encounter.
It seems as some of the cutters are trying to avoid the "crushed Ice" look- while others ( including the company that invented the Radiant Cut) work on ways of improving the dazzling look of crushed ice.
This again, is a taste based issue.

I buy a lot of radiant cut diamonds- and NEVER do it by the numbers- so my advice on selection is to use your eyes.
you may very well pick a stone with 70 table and 70 depth ( or any other numbers outside your initial specs) that appeals to your eyes the most.
 

nope

Rough_Rock
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Thanks for the response farmer gal :)

Those look like nice diamonds but the depth is a little to much for me. I asked for more images from JA but they said on live chat they can't produce anymore image?
My budget is roughly around 3500 to 4500
farmer gal|1311686872|2977014 said:
I wouldn't worry so much about cut grades with radiants, I would shop somewhere with pictures so you can see them. For example JA will let you get asset images for up to three diamonds, which will give you an idea of light return. I don't know what your budget is but here are some examples.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VVS2-Good-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1336861.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VVS2-Good-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1344671.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VVS2-Premium-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1344878.asp

These are not the exact measurements you wanted but I think they all look really nice.
Amys Bling: Those are stats I have read online and the longer is preference that my gf would love. Yes I find those stats on the safe end. I know I should not base it on that and should see them in real life etc.. Can you explain about the "sweet spot" Thanks for the tip of color with the Fancy Cut Stones! I will keep that in mind.
Amys Bling said:
Have you picked those stats because you have seen radiant cut stones in person and that's your preference or did you puck them becaus they seem like a safe bet to you? Even if you are purchasing online I would like at radiant stones in person to determine your color "sweet spot". Fancy cut stones tend to show a bit more color than rounds so keep that in mind if you are buying by dates and not from in person experience.
Rockdiamond: I fully understand that it is all in the eye of the beholder. Anything that is near colorless I personally don't see a difference, maybe it is my eyes. What is the best bet to "view" with my eyes if the diamond dealers here are just pushing crappy diamonds? Thanks for your response!
Rockdiamond said:
There's no "perfect stat stone" any more than there's a "perfect car" "perfect house" or anything else that is judged in a manner where subjective opinion comes into play.

In terms of color- as Amy suggested, you need to look at some diamonds and see.
If a J color is attractive to you ( it is to a fair number of shoppers) than it makes ZERO sense to shop for G+ stones.

There's also a number of different facet patterns you will encounter.
It seems as some of the cutters are trying to avoid the "crushed Ice" look- while others ( including the company that invented the Radiant Cut) work on ways of improving the dazzling look of crushed ice.
This again, is a taste based issue.

I buy a lot of radiant cut diamonds- and NEVER do it by the numbers- so my advice on selection is to use your eyes.
you may very well pick a stone with 70 table and 70 depth ( or any other numbers outside your initial specs) that appeals to your eyes the most.
 

Rockdiamond

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nope said:
Thanks for the response farmer gal :)

Those look like nice diamonds but the depth is a little to much for me. I asked for more images from JA but they said on live chat they can't produce anymore image?
My budget is roughly around 3500 to 4500
farmer gal|1311686872|2977014 said:
I wouldn't worry so much about cut grades with radiants, I would shop somewhere with pictures so you can see them. For example JA will let you get asset images for up to three diamonds, which will give you an idea of light return. I don't know what your budget is but here are some examples.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VVS2-Good-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1336861.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VVS2-Good-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1344671.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VVS2-Premium-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1344878.asp

These are not the exact measurements you wanted but I think they all look really nice.
Amys Bling: Those are stats I have read online and the longer is preference that my gf would love. Yes I find those stats on the safe end. I know I should not base it on that and should see them in real life etc.. Can you explain about the "sweet spot" Thanks for the tip of color with the Fancy Cut Stones! I will keep that in mind.
Amys Bling said:
Have you picked those stats because you have seen radiant cut stones in person and that's your preference or did you puck them becaus they seem like a safe bet to you? Even if you are purchasing online I would like at radiant stones in person to determine your color "sweet spot". Fancy cut stones tend to show a bit more color than rounds so keep that in mind if you are buying by dates and not from in person experience.
Rockdiamond: I fully understand that it is all in the eye of the beholder. Anything that is near colorless I personally don't see a difference, maybe it is my eyes. What is the best bet to "view" with my eyes if the diamond dealers here are just pushing crappy diamonds? Thanks for your response!
Rockdiamond said:
There's no "perfect stat stone" any more than there's a "perfect car" "perfect house" or anything else that is judged in a manner where subjective opinion comes into play.

In terms of color- as Amy suggested, you need to look at some diamonds and see.
If a J color is attractive to you ( it is to a fair number of shoppers) than it makes ZERO sense to shop for G+ stones.

There's also a number of different facet patterns you will encounter.
It seems as some of the cutters are trying to avoid the "crushed Ice" look- while others ( including the company that invented the Radiant Cut) work on ways of improving the dazzling look of crushed ice.
This again, is a taste based issue.

I buy a lot of radiant cut diamonds- and NEVER do it by the numbers- so my advice on selection is to use your eyes.
you may very well pick a stone with 70 table and 70 depth ( or any other numbers outside your initial specs) that appeals to your eyes the most.
Great point- if a person has no frame of reference, that will make selection far more daunting.
Personally, I like a radiant cut with a lot of flash- and limited dark areas- the crushed ice look.
The name itself should help give you an idea what to look for.

But I would certainly recommend looking at stones from a few different dealers.
On the web, check for sites with a lot of photos- and video to assist you in getting an idea what you like
 

tyty333

Super_Ideal_Rock
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Rock diamond cant post any for you send he is a member of the trade so I'll post a few...

The ones that Farmer gal posted are not the crushed iced look.

These are the crushed iced look. Knowing which look you like will help you narrow down a stone faster.
http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-113ct-radiant-cut-fancy-light-yellow-vs2-gia-great-sparkle-r3672
http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-108ct-radiant-cut-fancy-light-yellow-vvs2-gia-great-cut-r3670
http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-131ct-radiant-cut-w-x-natural-light-yellow-si1-gia-beautiful-cut-r3974

Here are some GOG that are more crushed iced...
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7623/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7624/ /* partly crushed iced */

Edit - I posted the wrong stone...This is pretty...
This new one is pretty...
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4859/


Edit - personally, I dont think you should be looking for the "perfect stats" stone when looking at fancy cuts. You can find
perfectly ulgy stones with "perfect stats" as well as lovely stones with not so perfect stats. You can buy rounds by the
numbers but its different with fancy cuts. They vary so widely.

My method...find what appeals to your eyes then use an aset image to look at the light return. Also post here for feedback.
Pricescopers that have been looking at stones for a while can be a big help when it comes to looking at images.
 

tyty333

Super_Ideal_Rock
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Not really finding anything in the 1.3 ratio 6.5x5mm range but ulgy...here is proof
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1381848.asp

Here is one that is closer to the right ratio but bigger than you want...
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1343929.asp
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/D-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1333579.asp /* I dont consider this pretty */
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VVS2-Premium-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1344663.asp

*I* prefer this look but you have to decide what you like. This isnt big enough but I like the faceting pattern.
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VVS2-Premium-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1093573.asp
 

nope

Rough_Rock
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tyty333:
Thanks for the links. Yes I got ya with perfect stats does not mean a perfect stone :) sorry for the delay just came back from Paris for a four day mini vacation with the gf :)..

Here is one stone I was looking at from JA. http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VVS2-Good-Cut-Radiant-Diamond-1336861.asp thoughts on that one? At the top right of that stone I see a hint of like gold is that normal on their stones?

I do like the shapes of some of RD's stones but the yellow will not do for me. All this is making me :loopy:
tyty333|1311888582|2979237 said:
Rock diamond cant post any for you send he is a member of the trade so I'll post a few...

The ones that Farmer gal posted are not the crushed iced look.

These are the crushed iced look. Knowing which look you like will help you narrow down a stone faster.
http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-113ct-radiant-cut-fancy-light-yellow-vs2-gia-great-sparkle-r3672
http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-108ct-radiant-cut-fancy-light-yellow-vvs2-gia-great-cut-r3670
http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/loose-diamond-131ct-radiant-cut-w-x-natural-light-yellow-si1-gia-beautiful-cut-r3974

Here are some GOG that are more crushed iced...
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7623/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7624/ /* partly crushed iced */

Edit - I posted the wrong stone...This is pretty...
This new one is pretty...
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4859/


Edit - personally, I dont think you should be looking for the "perfect stats" stone when looking at fancy cuts. You can find
perfectly ulgy stones with "perfect stats" as well as lovely stones with not so perfect stats. You can buy rounds by the
numbers but its different with fancy cuts. They vary so widely.

My method...find what appeals to your eyes then use an aset image to look at the light return. Also post here for feedback.
Pricescopers that have been looking at stones for a while can be a big help when it comes to looking at images.
 

nope

Rough_Rock
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Maybe I mis-read the measurements of stones at first.

I am looking for the Length to be the 6.5 and the Width to be 5.* more of an emerald style instead of a square style.

Thanks
 
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