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Question about old mine reported inclusions 3.8 ct M SI1

Also @Dreamer_D that website causes me issues too being in Australia. I figured out if I used a proxy browser from the US to search then things would come up and it did. Lol
 
Also @Dreamer_D that website causes me issues too being in Australia. I figured out if I used a proxy browser from the US to search then things would come up and it did. Lol

Yeesh! How annoying!

OP that’s great! You did all the due diligence and in the end you got to choose with your eyes.

I’d love more pictures and to see the full GIA report when it’s all finalized.
 
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How exciting to see the stones at 47 as well as the ring that you've decided on!
I think it's gorgeous and I've enjoyed following your search.
Fingers crossed that sealing the deal goes smoothly!
 
I have not been able to read all of the replies, but this looks like a poorly cut stone to me. I would keep looking.
 
@maryjane04 oh! That website always causes me issues being in Canada for some reason. I can’t really look things up.

That original diamond is not bad. It is a little dark under the table but the obstruction isn’t awful. It doesn’t appear to have awful leakage or fish eye or nail head or those real deal breakers. That style of old cut is hard to find, and being so old and wonky I don’t mind if it’s not perfect. Wanting a stone M color or better is also a limitation ana most large OMCs that survived are cape color. Ideally a slightly smaller table among other things would help it be more lively. It is possible to find a stone with a nicer cut but it may not have the proportions that you like otherwise. But seeing it in person is really ideal and you are lucky to do that. Comparing it to others is even better. Look at it in lots of lighting and make sure you like how it looks across settings. The incisions appear to be white and dispersed so it may not bother you too much. Again, assess in person and also examine with a loupe so you really know what you are getting. What does the report say about the girdle?

I don’t like the setting it’s in though. Very high and exposed is not the best for antiques especially ones that have a more fragile girdle. I would personally want to protect the diamond with either a faux bezel or lots of prongs — like 10! It may be ok temporarily but I’d want to change it asap.

I can’t really comment on price as I don’t track huge rocks.

Please keep us posted on your visits!! Take lots of pictures and videos for us!!

Gonna tag @LightBright @newtojewels and @Lookinagain and @EllieTO as well.

I like the originally posted antique diamond that I think OP bought. It looks antique and original with girdle flea bites. It does have inclusions around the perimeter, which I can’t really see in the videos. I don’t think they pose any structural problems. The larger table is typical of old mine cushions. It’s a characteristic of these rarer cuts. I like it, I like how it looks and performs.

I also like the photo of the 3.91 at the 47 site. But I went to their website and I couldn’t find that listing.
 
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She's here!

Linking the a video here.

GIA report and another picture attached. She is a bit deep so I definitely need to do some collaborative work with a jeweler to find a way to more securely, and hopefully a teeny bit lower, without losing impact.

My fiancé did all the final numbers, but the range was $21.5 - $22.5 K.
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She's here!

Linking the a video here.

GIA report and another picture attached. She is a bit deep so I definitely need to do some collaborative work with a jeweler to find a way to more securely, and hopefully a teeny bit lower, without losing impact.

My fiancé did all the final numbers, but the range was $21.5 - $22.5 K.
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It looks amazing on you, congratulations!!!
 
Congratulations and it looks great on you. So glad your fiance was able to score a deal. You both did well!
 
Oh wow! Thats a beautiful stone!
Congratulations!!!!

Please post a million more pictures - inside outside with nature… she needs a photoshoot!
 
Beautiful and bright! Such a privilege to choose in person like that. Removed all the guess work.

It is definitely possible to set it a little lower and with more rings to protect the stone. Even 6-8 prongs would make a huge difference because a large stone like that is going to get knocked and you’d rather knock a prong!

And yes we need a million more pictures!
 
Congratulations and it looks great on you. So glad your fiance was able to score a deal. You both did well!

Thank you! I do think it was a pretty good deal for a fully set ring. Maybe I could have searched longer for better specs / better price, whatever, but this one felt right and the price felt better than the other options I was seeing at the time.
 
Beautiful! Yes, it can definitely set lower and it definitely needs more protection. That setting it is currently in does not protect it well enough. I think at least 8 prongs if you don't want to do something like a faux bezel, and definitely something sturdier to anchor it to the band.
 
This kind of setting, a classic 8 prong crown, would offer protection and anchor the stone nicely. Stylistically contemporary to the diamond and can do platinum prongs. Just food for thought.

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If you are thinking of swapping out the setting for something with more protection… I LOVE the simplicity of an 8 prong… simple yet a little something extra because it’s 8 vs 6. Do you follow Joselyn on Guilded Lane on IG? She had DK make a beautiful simple 8 prong, but the shoulders had a floral feel to it - very pretty.


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The ring looks stunning on you!
 
I have been VERY MIA but here are a few more pics!

I definitely notice the warm color in certain light, and feeling pretty strongly about wanting to protect the girdle more because I notice the wear and tear from over the years.

I am also including a video so you can get up close and personal with the imperfections, obviously though, this is much more magnified than I can ever see it, but I'm sure it highlights some of the things a few you would have been concerned about! I still love it though.

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I prefer 6 prongs, but I'm leaning towards 8 prong for peace of mind, even though I'm not as big of a fan of the floral or crown-like basket I'll probably need. I'll work with the team and see what I can do though!


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It's lovely on you! I think because the girdle is so exposed and you can see more tint from the side. Maybe when you have 8 prongs covering the girdle the tint will be less visible.
 
I have been VERY MIA but here are a few more pics!

I definitely notice the warm color in certain light, and feeling pretty strongly about wanting to protect the girdle more because I notice the wear and tear from over the years.

I am also including a video so you can get up close and personal with the imperfections, obviously though, this is much more magnified than I can ever see it, but I'm sure it highlights some of the things a few you would have been concerned about! I still love it though.

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I prefer 6 prongs, but I'm leaning towards 8 prong for peace of mind, even though I'm not as big of a fan of the floral or crown-like basket I'll probably need. I'll work with the team and see what I can do though!


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I LOVE this stone…. It’s so pretty!!! It’s a beautiful size on you too! Old things shouldn’t be “perfect” … I like to think of their “imperfections”, frosty girdle with flea bites, etc… as part of that stones finger print. Mother Nature made that beautiful stone, and if it makes your heart sing, then you have found “your” stone. Yes we can pick it apart and point out all the imperfections under a magnifying lens, one should always know what they are buying… but in the end what matters most is how YOU feel when you see it, and are you happy with what you paid for her. And I can promise you, even if you didn’t get the deal of the century- if that stone makes your heart sing, that is all that matters.

I would love to see what you are envisioning for your setting! This is the fun part! If you are more of a visual person, I love sifting through old Sotheby’s and Christie’s listings for ideas… that is how I found my setting.
 
It's lovely on you! I think because the girdle is so exposed and you can see more tint from the side. Maybe when you have 8 prongs covering the girdle the tint will be less visible.

That's a great thought!
 
I LOVE this stone…. It’s so pretty!!! It’s a beautiful size on you too! Old things shouldn’t be “perfect” … I like to think of their “imperfections”, frosty girdle with flea bites, etc… as part of that stones finger print. Mother Nature made that beautiful stone, and if it makes your heart sing, then you have found “your” stone. Yes we can pick it apart and point out all the imperfections under a magnifying lens, one should always know what they are buying… but in the end what matters most is how YOU feel when you see it, and are you happy with what you paid for her. And I can promise you, even if you didn’t get the deal of the century- if that stone makes your heart sing, that is all that matters.

I would love to see what you are envisioning for your setting! This is the fun part! If you are more of a visual person, I love sifting through old Sotheby’s and Christie’s listings for ideas… that is how I found my setting.

Oh I'll absolutely look at Sothebys and Christies listings. I do think I'm going to go more modern / simple though, just based on my typical style. I also like the idea of the juxtaposition of the antique stone in a more modern setting. I feel like I may go something like this one from Material Good (though likely not cathedral setting) or maybe if I go more antique something like this Tiffany ring at Erstwhile (but with more prongs). I want to try and get the stone lower set as well, so I think both options may allow for that.

I'm going to go 2 tone, and I do think I want a thicker band, maybe 2mm wide.
 
Oh I'll absolutely look at Sothebys and Christies listings. I do think I'm going to go more modern / simple though, just based on my typical style. I also like the idea of the juxtaposition of the antique stone in a more modern setting. I feel like I may go something like this one from Material Good (though likely not cathedral setting) or maybe if I go more antique something like this Tiffany ring at Erstwhile (but with more prongs). I want to try and get the stone lower set as well, so I think both options may allow for that.

I'm going to go 2 tone, and I do think I want a thicker band, maybe 2mm wide.

Love the two tone idea! White prongs and yellow gold is my favourite combo. I love when the prongs are barely there and all you notice is the diamond!
 
Oh I'll absolutely look at Sothebys and Christies listings. I do think I'm going to go more modern / simple though, just based on my typical style. I also like the idea of the juxtaposition of the antique stone in a more modern setting. I feel like I may go something like this one from Material Good (though likely not cathedral setting) or maybe if I go more antique something like this Tiffany ring at Erstwhile (but with more prongs). I want to try and get the stone lower set as well, so I think both options may allow for that.

I'm going to go 2 tone, and I do think I want a thicker band, maybe 2mm wide.

I love that first one! Have you looked at Andria Barbones site? She uses a lot of modern settings and old cuts… might be a great site for some ideas!
 
I’m sure you can find an 8 prong design you like. Keep searching for inspiration! I think there are ways to incorporate antique elements (8 prongs) into a more modern sensibility. There are a number of vendors doing so these days I think.
 
I love that first one! Have you looked at Andria Barbones site? She uses a lot of modern settings and old cuts… might be a great site for some ideas!

I have! And I went to try on some rings there last year, here's a terrible picture of some 6 and 8 prong ones I tried on. The bottom one is actually VERY close in specs to mine so it's a great reference.


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