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YEAH!!!!!! Can you email me your info?Yay, socal meet up!!!! @goldenfire I think we only live like 30-40 min apart. Need coffee + bling + shopping adventures
YEAH!!!!!! Can you email me your info?Yay, socal meet up!!!! @goldenfire I think we only live like 30-40 min apart. Need coffee + bling + shopping adventures
Donna it was so nice to meet you too!!!! You are local in So-Cal right? I need to get all the so-cal ladies contact info together so we can maybe do a coffee and bling in the future Can you email me at [email protected] so I can get your contact info? Anyone else in So-Cal who wants to meet up for coffee and bling sometime in the future pls feel free to send me an email
I'll be in so cal soon too!!! If my host can spare me, I'll try to meet up. I can be found on LT.Yay, socal meet up!!!! @goldenfire I think we only live like 30-40 min apart. Need coffee + bling + shopping adventures
A few ideas about questions to ask of the presenters:
For Al Gilbertson:
- What is the status of a cut grade system for fancy shapes at GIA? When might we expect it to be made available to the public?
- Regarding ASET, which you were heavily involved with during the development of the AGS light performance grading system, what can you tell us about interpreting ASET signatures to assess light performance for fancy shapes.
- When looking specifically at 'crushed ice' style fancies, there is often a lot of leakage (white in backlit ASET). How should that be interpreted?
That would be so fun!!!We need to get @nala on the list for when we do a So-Cal coffee/bling/jewelry shopping meet up lol. @nala if you see this can you email me your info? And then we have @PintoBean and @SandyinAnaheim who can be reached via PS? Is that right? I think @mrs-b is sometimes in So-Cal, so we can keep her posted as well if she would like. I wonder if there are any others?@goldenfire It was wonderful meeting you as well. Yes, I am in Orange County. A So-Cal GTG would be great. Perhaps coffee and an adventure to a jewelry store(s) in the area. I will email you separately.
I would love to be included in a So Cal PS gathering, depending on location. The Carlsbad event was just a bit too far for me.That would be so fun!!!We need to get @nala on the list for when we do a So-Cal coffee/bling/jewelry shopping meet up lol. @nala if you see this can you email me your info? And then we have @PintoBean and @SandyinAnaheim who can be reached via PS? Is that right? I think @mrs-b is sometimes in So-Cal, so we can keep her posted as well if she would like. I wonder if there are any others?
Yes for sure!!! Can you email me? I'll add you to the listI would love to be included in a So Cal PS gathering, depending on location. The Carlsbad event was just a bit too far for me.
I will try. Especially if I get something new from Whiteflash to share (it is already in my cart). Plus, so much easier to chat with people that I have now met in person. @SandyinAnaheim Glad we were able to chat at the Saturday lunch.Of particular note is @donnabrsd who prefers to lurk (please post more Donna!!)
I just sent you an email. I know the lovely Stonewell with Magnificent Jewels is in SoCal too, not far from me, but she's been MIA for the past few months.That would be so fun!!!We need to get @nala on the list for when we do a So-Cal coffee/bling/jewelry shopping meet up lol. @nala if you see this can you email me your info? And then we have @PintoBean and @SandyinAnaheim who can be reached via PS? Is that right? I think @mrs-b is sometimes in So-Cal, so we can keep her posted as well if she would like. I wonder if there are any others?
Ooops sorry...folks PLEASE do not put personal contact information on this thread for everyone's safety!
Hello @Serg,Hi Bryan ,
Did you receive answers ?
Hello @Serg,
Al Gilbertson did a great job of explaining the extraordinary difficulty in developing a parametric grading system for fancy cuts. They are still involved in research to development such a system, but he did not give us any indication that GIA would be rolling out cut grading on any fancy cut any time soon.
To me, this further validates a light performance based approach to cut grading of fancies.
I also specifically inquired about what guidance could be given regarding translating ASET signatures into concrete interpretations of performance of fancies, but that line of questioning did not seem to get traction. Presumably because that is not GIA's approach.
I agree that economic/operational/training considerations present a significant impediment to rolling out a new cut grade system. I believe this is a primary reason that GIA was 10 years behind AGS in doing so, and why the system GIA finally released was far less stringent and only covered rounds.The trade and the retail will have o lot of troubles with any good cut grading system for fancy cuts.
Any good performance based cut grading system will significantly reduce liquidity and price of 70-90% current stock. Most diamond factories do not happy to publish additional information about them diamonds because they afraid to loss clients.
I agree that economic/operational/training considerations present a significant impediment to rolling out a new cut grade system. I believe this is a primary reason that GIA was 10 years behind AGS in doing so, and why the system GIA finally released was far less stringent and only covered rounds.
Even though it was an adjustment for the trade, the nature of the system allowed plenty of latitude for manufacturers and retailers. It was probably the right call for GIA considering their huge worldwide constituency. And it DID have the effect of significantly improving the overall quality of rounds in the market.
The market for fancies needs a similar quality boost and it seems GIA is the only entity that can make a big difference. Unfortunately, it looks like we are in for a long wait for that to happen.
This of course gives other players the chance to fill the void. But getting traction in the market is a huge challenge for anyone not named "GIA".
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