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  1. Gypsy
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    by Gypsy » Apr 9, 2014
    Just ask her if her bench can polish it off for you to get it nice and shiny, and ask her if it needs re-shanking (if so you'll want to get that done now). And make sure the sizing is right.
     
  2. travist223
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    by travist223 » Apr 9, 2014
    Thank you, Madame secretary.
     
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    by travist223 » Apr 9, 2014
    One more out of the box thought....she has an interest in frilly dresses, proper etiquette, English accents, Jane Austen, all that stuff. Says it relaxes her, seems to be a more appealing time period.

    What at your thoughts on a Victorian ring?
     
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    by CymoneD » Apr 9, 2014
    A band like this could be very nice with your current choice?

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    by CymoneD » Apr 9, 2014
    Many Victorian rings are colorful and intricate with a lot of this and that. This may be something you could consider if she mentioned a great liking to this style of jewelry?
     
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  8. Gypsy
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    by Gypsy » Apr 9, 2014

    Victorian Styles were more yellow gold designs. Edwardian might be a better choice.

    Something like this: http://eragem.com/antique-edwardian-era-old-european-cut-diamond-engagement-ring-solid-platinum-filigree.html would be lovely. Except it is sold.

    But we can help you find something of that style.

    Another option is to get an old european cut from Grace and set it in an Edwardian Reproduction setting. Which would be easier.

    This one would be a nice choice: http://www.jewelsbygrace.com/erika-winters-bridal/thea-halo-engagement-ring-333.html#.U0YI5VewWhE
    With this stone: http://www.jewelsbygrace.com/loose-diamonds/under-1-ct/97ct-old-european-cut-diamond-egl-i-vs2.html#.U0YI_VewWhE maybe.

    I'll look for options for you.
     
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    by Gypsy » Apr 9, 2014
    that setting is gorgeous. The stone in it isn't vintage though. Wonder if they'd sell it without the stone. We could find a you lovely old cut for it.
     
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    by Gypsy » Apr 9, 2014
    Has potential.
     
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    by travist223 » Apr 9, 2014
    Sorry, Gypsy....not trying to waste your time....there are just infinite options...hope I'm not aggravating you by bouncing from one thought to another!!
     
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    by patricias » Apr 9, 2014
    Howdy to a fellow South Carolinian! I'm a studio jeweler and offer to you an observation, and a bit of advice. I live in Pickens County (rural, but with Clemson in the mix to make things interesting), and I don't see many women around wearing enormous engagement rings with fussy details and rows of pave. South Carolina isn't LA, and when I see someone here with a huge ring I assume it's fake. Others have suggested vintage rings, and I think that's a great idea. You'll have the uniqueness and history of an antique, and vintage rings can be a good value. I'd purchase from a reliable vendor with a return policy, and I'd make sure that the mounting is sturdy enough for daily wear. Older rings also tend to sit lower on the finger and therefore won't get caught on things as much. I'm liking the links that others on this thread have provided, and they merit further research. Good luck, and keep us posted.
     
    


    


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    Thanks Patricia! We're actually in your neck of the woods....potential for collaboration?
     
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    by MollyMalone » Apr 10, 2014
    My e-ring dates back to the 1860's -- it's 2 emeralds with diamond accent stones set in rose gold -- and I love it [not surprising since I picked it out]. BUT there is no one-type-suits-all in jewelry, and antique-vintage rings are no exception. The "crude" cut of any old diamonds were not at all pleasing to my father-in-law, who was in the jewelry trade, so it's a good thing his son didn't surprise me with one of the rings his dad was suggesting ;))

    Lang Antique & Estate Jewelry, in San Francisco, offers a wealth of information on their Antique Jewelry University web site & you might find it interesting fun to spend some time there. Here's the portal page, for example, for further pages on Jewelry History & Design Periods, but there's lots more:
    http://www.langantiques.com/university/index.php/Category:Jewelry_History_&_Design_Periods

    A couple of cautions:
    * Many vendors know little about antique-vintage jewelry (or know more than they let on & are simply eager to cash in on this market). So you'll find items -- especially on eBay, but that's far from the only place -- being touted as, e.g., "Art Deco" when in fact the item is not of that provenance, or even faithfully reminiscent. That need not be a deal breaker -- unless age/history are important to you. After all, if you like something, you like it!

    * Replica rings are not inevitably of fine caliber & replica merchandise from even the same vendor can vary. When I visited Leigh Jay Nacht (antiqueengagementrings.com) about 7 years ago, many of the replicas shown me were fine, others I would not have considered purchasing, usually because of uneven detailing. Based on the Yelp reviews, however, it does sound as if quality control there has improved. I live in NYC, so would be happy to pop back in there, if you'd like.

    But all this brings me to my last, heartfelt suggestion:
    * Do not have a ring sized, re-shanked or whatever before it is sent to you -- unless the vendor has an uncommonly generous return policy. In most instances, having such work done will mean it is a final sale or you will pay a restocking fee should you return it. E.g.,
    http://www.loveaffairdiamonds.com/policies/
    http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopcontent.asp?type=FAQ#Return_Policy

    You're (understandably enough) not familiar with old cuts, and although many of us here adore them when well done (there are lots of poor ones still kicking around),they may not grab you. Plus, you might like a good OEC but still not care for an old rose or mine cut. And even if you know the size of the yellow gold ring she wears (I'm guessing on her right hand), that may not be the true size for the e-ring. Last but not least, pics can never be a wholly satisfactory substitute for seeing any stone -- of any vintage, be it a diamond or a colored gem -- in real life.
    Bottom line: it really is best that you have the option of returning the ring (or stone).

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  18. Gypsy
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    by Gypsy » Apr 10, 2014
    Rings to consider:

    http://www.langantiques.com/products/item/10-1-2409

    http://www.langantiques.com/products/item/10-1-6580

    http://www.langantiques.com/products/item/10-1-4403

    http://www.langantiques.com/products/item/10-1-4830

    http://www.langantiques.com/products/item/10-1-6557 I like this one.

    http://www.langantiques.com/products/item/10-1-6360


    I understand what you are trying to do and why. I think it's smart to consider all the options in order to make the best decision you can. And I'm happy to help with that. :wavey:


    For your reference, this is what a Victorian ring looks like: http://www.langantiques.com/products/item/10-1-4778 as you can see it's yellow gold. BEAUTIFUL. But might not be her taste.
     
  19. travist223
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    by travist223 » Apr 10, 2014

    Wow that Victorian is beautiful.
     
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    by CymoneD » Apr 10, 2014
    I love #2 that Vintagelover posted :love:
     
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    by travist223 » Apr 10, 2014
    They said the stone is vintage...gia I vs2.....83ct. Oec but gia wouldn't call it that because of proportions...what do you think?
     
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    by vintagelover229 » Apr 10, 2014

    IMO that stone isn't a good one at all. If they'd sell it w/o the stone the setting is nice. If not this is pretty similar

    http://antiqueengagementrings.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=2358
     
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    by Gypsy » Apr 10, 2014
    GIA's weird when it comes to old cut. So for me that's irrelevant. But the stone doesn't have OEC faceting. Can you ask them if they have any loose stones they can trade out this stone for? Or if they will sell it without the stone?
     
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    by vintagelover229 » Apr 10, 2014

    Depending on his budget there have been quite a few really nice OEC's on the pre-loved forums recently. I've been dying to see someone buy that setting for quite a few years now so I could get hand shots. :naughty:

    I know of at least 2 of the top of my head (one I haven't seen info on but in my ISO thread on preloved I had 2 replies)

    here is one
    http://diamondbistro.com/category/215/Loose-natural-Diamonds/listings/37833/Reduced-TransitionalOEC-136ct.html

    Here is another nice one
    http://diamondbistro.com/category/215/Loose-natural-Diamonds/listings/37077/95ct-H-VS1-OECTransitional.html
     
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