Pls help me pick one diamond!

[ggyy22]

Hello,

Please help me to decide which one is the best. Personally I like the 2nd one because of the price but it does a little bit bother me that there are some scatches on the surface.

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-608073.htm#

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906741.htm#

thanks in advance

 

[Showmethefire]

Date: 4/24/2008 12:36:09 AM
Author:ggyy22
Hello,

Please help me to decide which one is the best. Personally I like the 2nd one because of the price but it does a little bit bother me that there are some scatches on the surface.

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-608073.htm#

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906741.htm#

thanks in advance

Btw the 2 of them, I wld choose number 2. But you might want to check on whether it is eye clean first. Cos it is an SI2.
The ASET image shows less light leakage in #2.
You may want to consider expanding your search.
All the best.

 

[Showmethefire]

Are there any particular specs you are looking for? Like Carat size, color?

 

[ggyy22]

thank you!

I am looking for about 1 carat H&A, F/G, VS2/SI1, a SI2 is acceptable to me if it is eye clean, budget about $6000-6500 including setting.
thanks agian

 

[Cleo]

Hello!

I''m not entirely sure why you believe there are scratches on the surface of diamond number two? Looking at the AGSL cert, I can see that the diamond contains some clouds, which are the grade setting inclusions making it SI2 - along with an inscription on the girdle... but no mention of scratches, or even surface graining.

They are both amazing stones, and you do not have to worry about light leakage from either. A degree of light leakage is desirable in diamonds to create contrast and with an ACA this will be a carefully controlled amount. The fact that the diamonds are certified AGS0 is further assurance that there is no problem with light return.

My preference between the two diamonds would be entirely dependent on knowing that they are both eyeclean to your own preferences. For example, is it important to you that they look clean from the sides as well as face up? From what sort of viewng distance to you want it to look clean?

Call Whiteflash and ask them to look at the stones for you, and explain clearly what YOU mean by eyeclean.

If the SI2 falls within your standards, then go for this one, as this fits better within your budget.

Do get the SI1 looked at too though - as some SI1s are not eyeclean (as, in fact, are some VS2s) - so it''s always worth checking.

ACAs are awesome diamonds though - nice choice!

x x x

 

[Cleo]

Here''s a great post from Lorelei from another thread regarding light leakage in ACAs (hope you don''d mind Lorelei!)

x x x


The leakage you see is controlled intentional leakage of a Classic Line ACA which is said to help aid contrast and scintillation in the diamond, no worries. As to the IS image, I would personally doubt there is a problem, but the best way to know for sure is to contact WF and ask them, as we cannot physically see the diamond or know for sure as consumers. It is possible it is a result of the stone or equipment being tilted when the image was taken, but WF will be able to tell you for sure, and IF there is a problem, take the necessary steps to resolve it.

Here is some info copied from the thread below which may be helpful, further reading in John''s post within the thread.

"In general terms, ''New Line'' ACA are characterized by minimal light leakage in their ideal-scope photos. ''Classic'' ACA are characterized by slight leakage points along the girdle and at predicted meets between the table and girdle. To untrained observers the tangible differences are very slight. All ACA are cut with Visual Balance as a priority, so in terms of overall performance they''re paramount. However, after handling, studying and playing with many ACAs distinctions like these can stand out. When customers come in they can see slight character differences, particularly once we elaborate on them."

See this thread for basic info. https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/aca-stone-new-line-or-classic.36907/

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/24/2008 12:58:45 AM
Author: Showmethefire

Date: 4/24/2008 12:36:09 AM
Author:ggyy22
Hello,

Please help me to decide which one is the best. Personally I like the 2nd one because of the price but it does a little bit bother me that there are some scatches on the surface.

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-608073.htm#

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906741.htm#

thanks in advance

Btw the 2 of them, I wld choose number 2. But you might want to check on whether it is eye clean first. Cos it is an SI2.
The ASET image shows less light leakage in #2.
You may want to consider expanding your search.
All the best.

With respect, why would that be? These are two excellent diamonds, and the ASET images look fine to me, as do the Idealscopes. I see nothing in my non expert opinion that would make me advise the poster to continue looking, if the colours, clarities and sizes are within her desired range....

Use of ASET info here

ggy, it is best to ask WF about any visible inclusions on the diamond as they will be able to tell you for sure.

Of course I don't mind Cleo, it may be helpful to ggy!

 

[Cleo]

Date: 4/24/2008 5:00:42 AM
Author: Lorelei

With respect, why would that be? These are two excellent diamonds, and the ASET images look fine to me, as do the Idealscopes. I see nothing in my non expert opinion that would make me advise the poster to continue looking, if the colours, clarities and sizes are within her desired range....

Use of ASET info here

ggy, it is best to ask WF about any visible inclusions on the diamond as they will be able to tell you for sure.

Of course I don''t mind Cleo, it may be helpful to ggy!

Thanks Lorelei! I only found your post after I''d posted myself - but yours had loads of useful info in and I didn''t have any references to that info myself.

x x x

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/24/2008 5:19:03 AM
Author: Cleo

Date: 4/24/2008 5:00:42 AM
Author: Lorelei

With respect, why would that be? These are two excellent diamonds, and the ASET images look fine to me, as do the Idealscopes. I see nothing in my non expert opinion that would make me advise the poster to continue looking, if the colours, clarities and sizes are within her desired range....

Use of ASET info here

ggy, it is best to ask WF about any visible inclusions on the diamond as they will be able to tell you for sure.

Of course I don''t mind Cleo, it may be helpful to ggy!

Thanks Lorelei! I only found your post after I''d posted myself - but yours had loads of useful info in and I didn''t have any references to that info myself.

x x x

I am really glad that was helpful to you!

 

[Ellen]

You''ve got two great stones. I''d shoot for the SI2 for obvious savings first. If not eyeclean, you''ve got a spare that hopefully is.

 

[ggyy22]

thank you for everyone replied my post

I emailed WF & Chris@WF confirmed that both are eye clean. Now the question is which one should I pick? I like the SI2 because it''s about $900 cheaper than the SI1 and which I can get a nice seetting (probably the knife edge one) , but WF said the SI1 is probably the better choice. decision, decision, decision..ple help me out!!!!

here is a copy of email from WF:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"Thank you for contacting www.whiteflash.com, I have received your request and addressed your concerns below.

I can tell you that the first 1.07 ct G SI2 A Cut Above H&A is eye clean. If you look closely at the 40x image you can see that the nature of the characteristic is white and will not be visible to the unaided eye.

The second 1.07 ct G SI1 A Cut Above H&A is also eye clean. Both diamonds are going to be great performers and will face up white and brilliant beyond that grades that they have been given due to superior cut.

We can extend the Pricescope discount with a bank wire on either diamond. If you like we can place either one on hold if you would like to discuss this further.

I compared both of these diamonds with one of my co-workers and we both agree that the second diamond has a bit more flair to it, but this is just our opinion.

I would love to hear your thoughts on both of these and look forward to assisting you further."
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

[Lorelei]

Well it sounds as if either could be a great choice, I like the way they describe the SI1 as having a bit more flair to it, just depends on which one you prefer!

 

[Showmethefire]

Date: 4/24/2008 5:00:42 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 4/24/2008 12:58:45 AM

Author: Showmethefire

Date: 4/24/2008 12:36:09 AM

Author:ggyy22

Hello,


Please help me to decide which one is the best. Personally I like the 2nd one because of the price but it does a little bit bother me that there are some scatches on the surface.


http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-608073.htm#


http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-906741.htm#


thanks in advance

Btw the 2 of them, I wld choose number 2. But you might want to check on whether it is eye clean first. Cos it is an SI2.

The ASET image shows less light leakage in #2.

You may want to consider expanding your search.

All the best.

With respect, why would that be? These are two excellent diamonds, and the ASET images look fine to me, as do the Idealscopes. I see nothing in my non expert opinion that would make me advise the poster to continue looking, if the colours, clarities and sizes are within her desired range....


Use of ASET info here


ggy, it is best to ask WF about any visible inclusions on the diamond as they will be able to tell you for sure.


Of course I don''t mind Cleo, it may be helpful to ggy!

Simply bcos I thought that the SI2 wasn''t eyeclean. But since it is eye clean, I guess there are no issues.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 4/24/2008 12:45:17 PM
Author: Lorelei
Well it sounds as if either could be a great choice, I like the way they describe the SI1 as having a bit more flair to it, just depends on which one you prefer!

Me too, just wonder if it''s worth almost a thousand dollars. Tough call.

I guess if you could buy the SI1 and still get the setting you wanted, I''d say go that route. But if you really need the extra cash, get the SI2?

I''m sorry, not much help.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/24/2008 1:05:22 PM
Author: Ellen

Date: 4/24/2008 12:45:17 PM
Author: Lorelei
Well it sounds as if either could be a great choice, I like the way they describe the SI1 as having a bit more flair to it, just depends on which one you prefer!

Me too, just wonder if it''s worth almost a thousand dollars. Tough call.

I guess if you could buy the SI1 and still get the setting you wanted, I''d say go that route. But if you really need the extra cash, get the SI2?

I''m sorry, not much help.

It may well not be, the second one as it is a fair bit cheaper could do the job nicely!

 

[ggyy22]

I got the comparison photo from WF
Right: SI1 with 1.074ct
Left: SI2 with 1.07ct
what do you all think! thanks

 

[ggyy22]

Do you all see there is a yellow spot on 5''clock? or i might need another pair of new glasses

 

[ggyy22]

Sorry, i''m confused myself too

here is the correct information:
On the Left: it should be SI1 with 1.074ct
on the Right: SI2 with 1.07ct

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 4/24/2008 3:08:32 PM
Author: ggyy22
Sorry, i''m confused myself too

here is the correct information:
On the Left: it should be SI1 with 1.074ct
on the Right: SI2 with 1.07ct

My opinion? They have both been verified as eyeclean, if it was me buying, I would go for the SI2, as I can''t see enough of a difference in a photo, or have the expertise to judge subtleties of performance, but it depends on which one appeals to you most!

 

[Ellen]

That yellow spot is just the stone picking up color from something, quite possibly the photographers shirt. I wish I could be more help, but I can''t really comment past what I''ve already said.

The only other thing you could do, is ask to have Brian compare them, and tell you if the SI1 is really worth the extra.