And that is why most discussions on this board devolve into arguments. I wish we all would just try to discuss without antagonizing each other. Take the higher road.
Was a traditional marriage defined as not being able to have dinner with a woman friend? how about his sister in law? his sister? Seriously these kinds of old school ways of thinking hold women back.. so what's up next for him? my daughter can't go out unless I'm with her? what is the difference between this and being a muslim woman? Can't he keep it in his pants when he's out dining with a friend? Yes these are his ideas, old fashioned as they are and anti feminist, this way of thinking to young people is anathema.. we need forward thinking leaders not people from the early to mid 1900s. Red to me his way of thinking makes young women feel less and objects of 'sexual desire' rather than just a friend of a person. Not wanting to get into a tit for tat, it's just how I feel, your mileage varies.
Right back atcha, RedOk.
Monnie and I were just having that conversationI would like to see the wavey emoji retired and replaced by a middle finger salute emoji. Why beat around the bush when we can be direct
I would like to see the wavey emoji retired and replaced by a middle finger salute emoji. Why beat around the bush when we can be direct
as a feminist I have lived thru the 70s (where men ruled and if the guy pulled my bra strap then hey WTF! it's a man's world) to the 80s where we made some inroads (where men pretended to respect me but just couldn't wait to get me in bed ) to the 90s where I stopped working to be home with my sons since it was cheaper for us than working to back into the workforce in 01 and men still ruled and women were seen as being 'hormonal' or 'agitated' or 'she misses her kids' or 'she's getting older'..
I think the meaning of the wavey emoji has changed for some of us due its use in threads that were contentious (I know I know, it's hard to believe that things can get heated here
so maybe it's better to use words unless the meaning of the wavey is crystal clear -- such as when we're obviously saying hello or good bye to someone.
Why do you think feminists are angry????? I'm not angry, I'm energized. To say that feminists are angry is to attribute what YOU think of them, because they don't support YOUR values..
As to my husband having dinner with a woman, woman friend, acquaintance, why should I feel threatened? why should I want to go back to the time when my mother felt she needed to codeine her way out of a stifling marriage (50s).. no... and it all boils down to what one hears in their religious institution.. (which I learned years ago is just another place where men lord it over women in the guise of being paternal) not going back, don't want my DIL to go back, if I have a grand-daughter someday I don't want her to think she is anything less than a man. It's all about SEX anyway and men not being able to control themselves.
I once put you on ignore because you had become, imo, overly defensive, emotionally reactive and judgmental in your responses so I know how you feel. I do make judgments as to what is more valuable to me and what I believe is more valuable to society. How is that arrogant? You do the same thing. EVERYONE does it. It's how we survive. I have a friend who risked her life for years in Africa working with African women trying to stop the practice of female genital mutilation. She has been in physical danger many times working in countries that are under siege by rebels. She willingly put her life at risk for a cause to which she is committed. She is now in a power position in the US working for a non profit that she took from small to huge through sheer grit and commitment raising tons of money for education programs about FGM and for medical care for girls and women who suffer the after effects. I value her contribution to society more than I value my own efforts working for non profits related to animal welfare. We both provide value through our work but in comparison, I am small potatoes. Those are the kinds of discernments I make.
Jedediah Bila's been hanging out in some sketchy-ass bars in DC, if you ask me. I'm sure it's entirely impossible that she gets paid by The View to offer her highly skewed opinions on watering holes in DC. I, and others would be happy to recommend less "sleazy" places. There are quite a few. But I guess when you go searching for sleaze around every corner you are sure to find it.
I am almost through the Quartz article. Dang I did not realize that you could get booze in so many places?!
You can't read too much into my tone, because we are online. If I was sitting in front of you I would be telling you my exact same thoughts in most likely the exact same words, and I guarantee you'd interpret them differently. You ask Matata to clarify her comments while you wave your hand and label me aggressive.
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