Please help with this 5 carat

[diamonds_galore]

Hello PSers! I have a question. Are the feathers along the girdle a concern? Will they affect the durability of the stone? Will placing a prong next to the feathers suffice? We saw this stone yesterday in the store and it was gorgeous! Super sparkly! Even outside in the sun. So we paid for it but we still have time to undo the purchase. I forgot to check the inclusions yesterday. D’oh! But I can go to the store next week to see the inclusions. Please advise if the feathers are going to be a problem. It is Gia certified. I’m not concerned about the cut because it was sparkly enough for my eyes. I am concerned with the feathers

 

[oldminer]

The stone may look just fine in person. Lots of marks on the plot, but one can't tell how they work in the stone.

 

[diamonds_galore]

Thank you for your reply! Would Gia certify this diamond if durability is an issue? I have another option


The issue with this one is strong blue fluorescence. When we took it outside, it turned blue but not dark blue. More icy blue but it looked obvious next to the one above. This one was not as sparkly as the previous one but it is si1 as compared to si2 in the first one. It is also Gia certified. Which is the better option?

 

[lovedogs]

Thank you for your reply! Would Gia certify this diamond if durability is an issue? I have another option


The issue with this one is strong blue fluorescence. When we took it outside, it turned blue but not dark blue. More icy blue but it looked obvious next to the one above. This one was not as sparkly as the previous one but it is si1 as compared to si2 in the first one. It is also Gia certified. Which is the better option?

Gia doesn't look at durability, they just grade what they see. I don't think we can say which is "better" because we don't have any info on price, color, cut, etc.

 

[Dreamer_D]

What is the clarity grade of the stone?

Here is some information about feathers and durability that I found on Pricescope that has generally made me unconcerned about most inclusions.

Diamond Feather Inclusions: A Durability Risk?

When is a Feather a Durability Risk? There have been multiple forum discussions about feathers and durability. In an effort to alleviate Pricescope poster concerns, we have asked several participating diamond […]

www.pricescope.com

 

[diamonds_galore]

What is the clarity grade of the stone?

Here is some information about feathers and durability that I found on Pricescope that has generally made me unconcerned about most inclusions.

Diamond Feather Inclusions: A Durability Risk?

When is a Feather a Durability Risk? There have been multiple forum discussions about feathers and durability. In an effort to alleviate Pricescope poster concerns, we have asked several participating diamond […]

www.pricescope.com

Clarity is si2.

Thank you for the above article. I am going in on Monday to see the feathers with a 10x loupe, which I forgot to do last night! Oye!

From what I have gathered so far, feathers are not straightforward. I need to see if the feathers reach the surface and if the feathers along the girdle create a space for air to enter.

I will set in a 6 prong so I think the placement of prongs can act as a buffer as well.

Other than that, it really is a beautiful stone. I hope it works out!

 

[lulu_ma]

Is the SI1 a similar price point? All things being equal it might be better to get the SI1-then you don’t have to worry as much. BUT just make sure that the stone don’t exhibit any milkiness or haze in direct sunlight.

 

[diamonds_galore]

Gia doesn't look at durability, they just grade what they see. I don't think we can say which is "better" because we don't have any info on price, color, cut, etc.

Is the SI1 a similar price point? All things being equal it might be better to get the SI1-then you don’t have to worry as much. BUT just make sure that the stone don’t exhibit any milkiness or haze in direct sunlight.

I see your point! Yes si1 is the same price but in the sunlight, it turns icy blue. Still sparkly but icy blue, which I don’t like. I had an oval that was SBF but it never turned icy blue in the sun like that. It may be just reflecting the blue sky but the si2 did not turn icy blue.

 

[Dreamer_D]

You can’t evaluate the inclusions for durability as a lay person. You need expert advice, and not from a person who sells diamonds.

 

[lovedogs]

You can’t evaluate the inclusions for durability as a lay person. You need expert advice, and not from a person who sells diamonds.

Exactly.

 

[Rockdiamond]

It is Gia certified

I agree with so much of what's been written so far.
As David Atlas mentioned, the plot looking bad might not be an issue at all in real life.
Sometimes an SI2 with a lot of little imperfections is way more desirable than one with a single larger booger.

But also the fact that as a consumer, I'd recommend finding a dealer you trust.
As helpful as this community is, there's no substitute for hands on examination of a stone.
Also important to point out that GIA does not "certify" anything. They provide a report identifying a given diamond and it's characteristics.
I could submit a stone ready to crack in half, and GIA will accept if for a report.
That specific aspect ( durability) won't be mentioned on the report.
Having said all that- feathers generally don't pose durability concerns. But you ain't buying a "general" diamond- so generalities don't matter in regards to the specific stone you're looking at.

 

[diamonds_galore]

Thank you everyone for your input and advice! I don’t know why the assumption is that the dealer is a “lay person.” The store is a reputable store with Gia gemologists on site.

Anyhoo, I just came back from examining the inclusions in person and the feathers do not pose a risk AT ALL. Even the one on the table is very hard to find under the loupe because it blends right in and it is white. I took it outside into the sun and it was beautiful. In store under the lights (I know the lights are rigged), beautiful . Into the jeweler’s office where there are low lights, beautiful. I got lucky because the stone had just arrived that day and my husband and I were going to buy a different stone but the jeweler (again, GIA specialist) showed us this stone as well and the rest is history.

I am so relieved I finally chose this stone! I have been on this journey since August. I wanted to find a stone in person and not through BN or JA and I found the one! It makes my heart sing! It is 5 carats for my 50th birthday hayyyyyy! I told my husband for my 60th birthday, I need to upgrade to 6 carats but he didn’t find it funny :/

Now the next (and easier) phase of journey begins: the setting! To be continued

 

[Dreamer_D]

Clarity is si2.

Thank you for the above article. I am going in on Monday to see the feathers with a 10x loupe, which I forgot to do last night! Oye!

From what I have gathered so far, feathers are not straightforward. I need to see if the feathers reach the surface and if the feathers along the girdle create a space for air to enter.

Thank you everyone for your input and advice! I don’t know why the assumption is that the dealer is a “lay person.” The store is a reputable store with Gia gemologists on site.

You wrote about examining these things yourself... you did not say you would ask the jeweler to check those things. Hence my comment.

Glad you are happy!

 

[Rockdiamond]

So exciting- and glad you've found a place you're comfortable with.
Just a few points,which do not necessarily specifically apply to your situation- but to clarify....
People that have taken GIA courses are not "GIA gemologists"
The difference might be subtle, but not really.
It sounds like a "GIA gemologist" works for GIA. The gemologists in the store work for the store and have no association with GIA, other than having been trained by them or taken the courses.
Again... not to your specific situation...but to make sure it's clear.