Please Help with New Setting design

[lovedogs]

Whatever those "shoulder" things are with 3 tips going into the head of the setting are FANTASTIC!

 

[Maisie]

Whatever those "shoulder" things are with 3 tips going into the head of the setting are FANTASTIC!

Yes they are!

 

[rockysalamander]

I'll echo what PP said, I prefer when the prong in bezel is held with little dots.


https://www.cecileraleydesigns.com/...ourmaline-oval-in-14k-rose-gold-octagon-bezel
But, if your stone is not perfectly round...it is very common to use a bezel to make it look round.

Do you like 3-stone settings? I'm in a 3-stone bezel mode and love this look....

 

[The Stig]

WTF are you talking about?

Well, you seem to have very strong views about David's ethics as it relates to alleged copying of designs. I was just curious about your own ethics and your own views, i.e. many folks will purchase Jewelry from out of state where tax is not collected at the time of purchase, but then neglect to disclose the purchase on their state tax returns and pay the usage tax. Also, when you purchase goods online from Amazon, and there is no sales tax collected when shipping from out of state, do you disclose those purchase and pay usage tax on those?

 

[soxfan]

Well, you seem to have very strong views about David's ethics as it relates to alleged copying of designs. I was just curious about your own ethics and your own views, i.e. many folks will purchase Jewelry from out of state where tax is not collected at the time of purchase, but then neglect to disclose the purchase on their state tax returns and pay the usage tax. That's all

Hmmm....as I recall, didn't you throw a heenie because he didn't get back to you fast enough, called him every name in the book and now you are here to lecture me on taxes which have NOTHING to do with copying other vendors designs? Oh, yes, that was you. rollroll

 

[The Stig]

Hmmm....as I recall, didn't you throw a heenie because he didn't get back to you fast enough, called him every name in the book and now you are here to lecture me on taxes which have NOTHING to do with copying other vendors designs? Oh, yes, that was you. rollroll

Just to be clear, I'm not lecturing anyone, was just asking you a question to gauge your own level of ethics. I will admit that I myself am getting my girl's ring sent out of state to avoid paying sales tax, and have no plans to pay usage tax on it. I will have no problem sleeping at night. Therefore I am the last person to judge and lecture anyone about ethics. You have implied alleged plagiarism in your posts, so curious why you feel tax evasion is any less unethical than plagiarism? Remember, tax evasion is what took down Al Capone. That's all. Just something to think about maybe. People will argue that most people do not pay the usage taxes on their pieces, and I imagine jewelers will argue that copying other designs with small changes is widespread. Not going to opine on whether its justifiable or not, and I am certainly not going to judge.

 

[soxfan]

Just to be clear, I'm not lecturing anyone, was just asking you a question to gauge your own level of ethics. I will admit that I myself am getting my girl's ring sent out of state to avoid paying sales tax, and have no plans to pay usage tax on it. I will have no problem sleeping at night. Therefore I am the last person to judge and lecture anyone about ethics. You have implied alleged plagiarism in your posts, so curious why you feel tax evasion is any less unethical than plagiarism? Remember, tax evasion is what took down Al Capone. That's all. Just something to think about maybe. People will argue that most people do not pay the usage taxes on their pieces, and I imagine jewelers will argue that copying other designs with small changes is widespread. Not going to opine on whether its justifiable or not, and I am certainly not going to judge.

I hope you are done editing- the Al Capone reference was a nice touch.

Now, look at the bolded statement you just made. It is correct. MY argument earlier in this thread was that DK has copied rings of other vendors EXACTLY and down to every detail, and when I saw the CAD of CVB's zoe, I felt I had to speak up. You have 17 posts and you are very new to this board. If you want to go digging around, go ahead- you will see I am not the only one who has a problem with copying other vendors designs exactly and that it HAS been done before.

That ship had sailed a couple of days ago, people said their peace, the OP stated she wasn't looking to copy CVB's ring and the thread was back on topic until you jumped in accusing everyone of tax evasion. roll:roll

OP, sorry but I had to respond to this poster. This will be my last post to him. I look forward to seeing with design you come up with for your ring!!!

 

[whitewave]

Just so we are clear, I pay taxes on all my stuff

 

[sledge]

I'm so sorry @Maisie. Your thread has been kicked & abused by all this talk of copyright violation, etc. and it's wrong. It's obvious you didn't come here trying to rip off another designer's idea, and frankly I am tired of people kicking a dead horse. It's beginning to piss me the off to be very blunt. It's simply not right to you.

Can we just please get back to helping her design an awesome ring? So many good ideas and information has come into this thread. Let's not pollute it with any more garbage. Please.

 

[the_mother_thing]

@Maisie Sorry I’m slower getting back to you here. My hair appt last night didn’t allow for as much doodle time as I thought.

There have been several more ideas/suggestions posted since yesterday, so I’m just gonna start with a top-down view, and I can change out what you like/don’t like and keep trying different things, then we can move on to the gallery.

Octagonal bezel shown askew as well as straight with a variation of the EW ring as shoulders:


And again with ‘petal’-style shoulders:

 

[the_mother_thing]

And just say whatever you like, don’t like, etc., don’t feel like you’ll hurt my feelings ... it’s YOUR ring; I just want to help you visualize the things you like and don’t to help make your own beautiful ring.

 

[Wewechew]

@Maisie Sorry I’m slower getting back to you here. My hair appt last night didn’t allow for as much doodle time as I thought.

There have been several more ideas/suggestions posted since yesterday, so I’m just gonna start with a top-down view, and I can change out what you like/don’t like and keep trying different things, then we can move on to the gallery.

Octagonal bezel shown askew as well as straight with a variation of the EW ring as shoulders:


And again with ‘petal’-style shoulders:

You will be helping me design my next ring lol. These look great!

 

[Sabrina31]

Wow @the_mother_thing those are awesome!

 

[sledge]

FWIW, I really do like the bezel turned so it's flat on the sides. And I prefer the wider shoulders myself, but maybe add the cut out that was mentioned early on in this thread?

PS - my photohack skills aren't nearly as refined as @the_mother_thing. Hopefully you can see I was trying to give you some milgraining on the edges of the cut out.

 

[Sabrina31]

I would actually cut out the tiny triangle part so theres a break in all the metal. Im even worse than @sledge or @the_mother_thing and i used paint but i hope you get the idea,

 

[the_mother_thing]

Versions with cut-outs:




I do want to wait until @Maisie has an opportunity to chime in with her thoughts before doing anything else since it is her ring.

 

[Maisie]

Oooh! How fabulous!!! I love the last one!!!

 

[rockysalamander]

Oooh! How fabulous!!! I love the last one!!!

My favorite too! What about adding that straight line of stone like the EW? Or do you want the shank to start at the split?

@the_mother_thing - I bow to your art-fu!

 

[Maisie]

My favorite too! What about adding that straight line of stone like the EW? Or do you want the shank to start at the split?

@the_mother_thing - I bow to your art-fu!

I was trying to avoid small diamonds. I know they would look gorgeous but I don’t want to have to baby this ring.

@the_mother_thing is very talented!

 

[Maisie]

Does anyone how the brushed finish wears over time. I really love it but I’m not sure if it’s something that needs to be redone.

 

[sledge]

A couple of other potential versions.

First one plays off more cut outs. Although a horrible hack job, the second one would add a marquis cut stone in part of that open area. Milgraining sprinkled throughout.

 

[Maisie]

Look at this bezel!

 

[Maisie]

A couple of other potential versions.

First one plays off more cut outs. Although a horrible hack job, the second one would add a marquis cut stone in part of that open area. Milgraining sprinkled throughout.

I love the idea of the marquise diamonds on the side! I wonder if they could be bezel set.

 

[sledge]

I love the idea of the marquise diamonds on the side! I wonder if they could be bezel set.

I don't see why not. Some examples below.

 

[rockysalamander]

I love the idea of the marquise diamonds on the side! I wonder if they could be bezel set.

The marquise could be bezel or gypsy set - in this application its really about what works for the setter. Little diamonds in this kind of setting and where they would be will not need babying. All the diamonds you are using will be bezel or elevation-protected. But, you need to love this. If you eliminate the diamonds, it would be nice to add texture where there were diamonds.

Brushed finish last longer on gold than platinum. Its a function of the metal. Platinum is squishy. I get my rings brushed in a satin (all platinum) and they do change over time. On platinum, you will get more shine on the wearing surfaces (where my rings touch). But, it otherwise keeps the metal from being shiny...which I prefer. I can't speak to gold as my only brushed gold is a really high copper rose gold -- so it would be a different animal. But, I would 100% get this satin and see how it wears. You can get it removed if you don't like it.

 

[the_mother_thing]

Does anyone how the brushed finish wears over time. I really love it but I’m not sure if it’s something that needs to be redone.

I can’t speak too much to the long-term wear, but what I can say is that for everyday wear - personally - I don’t care for it as much as I really just like the look of it. IMO, it gets dirty too easy, which changes the look of it in terms of metal color, and that’s coming from someone who washes her hands 20+ times a day.

 

[the_mother_thing]

@Maisie Here are some marquises added ... have you decided one way or another on the bezel orientation - askew (top) or standard (bottom)?

 

[the_mother_thing]

And I’ll just throw in one minor iteration that - if it were my piece - I like because I feel like it keeps the central diamond the ‘star’ of the show with just a couple of minor accents to balance & tie it together with the YG. Your diamond will appear whiter than the one in this image, I’m sure. But I’d maybe just see about having two tiny trillion or round diamonds bezeled in those triangle openings on each side for a little subtle side-bling. I moved the cuffs up for options.

 

[Maisie]

I’m not sure about the orientation. I love both. I also think having marquise diamonds will push the price up and I’m trying to avoid that.

I am really tempted to gave the small melee on the shoulders though!

I think I will give the brushed finish a try. Having it removed seems simple enough.

Thank you so much for all this help. I truly appreciate it.

 

[sledge]

I personally don't like the iterations of the marquis without the cut outs that I originally sketched in them. Also, they appear too big to me. Not criticizing by any stretch @the_mother_thing as I know you are doing this for free, etc.

It just has a different feel than how I sketched and envisioned it.

I'd almost do the cut outs of the version above the marquis if you want to keep the costs low. I could see how that design could possibly be carried into your basket as well so it all has purpose.

Speaking of baskets, I recall seeing a custom ring where they had a special monogram designed and then transformed into the basket. I think it was using the letters M and W. I can't recall who it was. Been a few months back, but it was gorgeous I thought. Getting something creative like that is something you could do to really make it your own.