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konamery

Rough_Rock
Joined
May 14, 2016
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Hello everyone

Which is the better stone for the price?

ROUND BRILLIANT----- $8,500

Measurements
7.13 - 7.17 x 4.47 mm
Carat Weight
1.41 carat
Color Grade
G
Clarity Grade
SI2
Cut Grade
Excellent
PROPORTIONS

Depth
62.5 %
Table
57 %
Crown Angle
36.0°
Crown Height
15.5%
Pavilion Angle
41.0°
Pavilion Depth
43.5%
Star Length
50%
Lower Half
75%
Girdle
Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 3.5%
Culet
None

FINISH

Polish
Excellent
Symmetry
Excellent

Fluorescence
None
CLARITY CHARACTERISTICS

Clarity Characteristics
Twinning Wisp, Feather, Cloud, Crystal, Cavity, Needle, Indented Natural


OR

ROUND BRILLIANT------$6,500

Measurements
7.20 - 7.25 x 4.49 mm
Carat Weight
1.48 carat
Color Grade
G
Clarity Grade
I1
Cut Grade
Good
PROPORTIONS

Depth
62.1 %
Table
60 %
Crown Angle
36.5°
Crown Height
14.5%
Pavilion Angle
40.6°
Pavilion Depth
42.5%
Star Length
60%
Lower Half
85%
Girdle
Slightly Thick to Very Thick, Faceted, 4.5%
Culet
None

FINISH

Polish
Very Good
Symmetry
Very Good

Fluorescence
None
CLARITY CHARACTERISTICS

Clarity Characteristics
Feather

ALSO this is the setting that I want. It's not the exact one but its the closest I found https://www.gabrielny.com/engagement-ring/ER10523C4T83JJ/amavida the cost of the setting is $2,775

My jeweler said that the total for the si2 stone and setting together would be $10,000 and if we paid cash he would charge about $9,700.
He said the i1 stone and setting together would be $8,500 and if we paid cash about $8,200.

Is either of these scenarios worth it? Are the stones worth buying? Are we being ripped off or is this a deal/fair price for the quality and what we are getting?

I would appreciate any help!

Thank you
 

gm89uk

Brilliant_Rock
Premium
Joined
May 26, 2015
Messages
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Neither of these stones are well cut and I would avoid both.

I think you are better off dropping the colour to H and getting a well cut stone, that will face up brighter and be more lively than either of these stones.

Aim for these measurements:

Depth: 59.5 - 62.3
Table: 54-58
crown angle: 34-35 (35.5 may work with a pavilion of 40.6, and uncommonly 36 may work well if idealscope / ASET pictures look good)
pavilion angle: 40.6-40.8 (or 41 with a crown of 34)

Ensure excellent cut on the certificate AND the above

It is extremely rare to find an eyeclean I1, and difficult to find an SI2 that is eyeclean.

For your first stone a 36 crown is not compatible with a 41 pavilion. For your second stone 36.5 is too steep and I1 is a no go really.

If you plugged your numbers into the HCA tool provided here you'd find out neither of those diamonds are recommended. You can do better within the prices quoted for sure.
 

konamery

Rough_Rock
Joined
May 14, 2016
Messages
31
Thank you for your help. It's so frustrating trying to pick a stone. Every time I think I've finally narrowed it down, it turns out the stones aren't even worth it. I asked my jeweler if he had any H stones with a better cut si2 or better. Hopefully he has some.
 
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