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Please help check out this 1.20 K SI1

flymybird

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Still very much new to this, but just educated myself on the subject of drop shippers, and the fact that the same diamond can be being sold by several several online stores. So thanks to the PS search + Google search on the GIA report number I was able to find this one particular diamond, with a price difference of as much as $900 between the cheapest and the most expensive site. Solomon Brothers wants $4,067 and other sites as much as $4700+. I was able to find actual photo and idealscope images on one of the sites selling it. This might not be "the one" for me, but can someone please take a look and tell me what you see and if I'm on the right track? GIA report here: http://s3.amazonaws.com/rap.certs/gia/Certificates/2014/9/15/1189077507.pdf and it gets a 0.6 HCA score. The K color is due to it being set in rose gold, so I "think" I can compromise on color.

Thanks!

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I believe rose gold will enhance, not mask, the warmth of a stone. If color is a concern put the K in icy white platinum.
 
danielxlin|1434543486|3890230 said:
I believe rose gold will enhance, not mask, the warmth of a stone. If color is a concern put the K in icy white platinum.

I think I will just have to see for myself I guess. I've read people saying that rose gold will mask the color because it doesn't reflect white light like white gold does, so the diamond doesn't get compared to the white reflected off the shank. Also rose gold is more subdued in nature, which is the look I'm going for, so I'm not sure color is high on the list for me. In any case though, I'm curious about this stone as it looks to my completely untrained eye to be a good deal. Still learning. :loopy:
 
re: color - I bought a 2.09 GIA SI2, XXX, K last year.

VERY happy with the color - set in white gold 3.75 ctw C.Gonshor setting. Unset, it looked more steely but still bling - if that makes sense.

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hi there,

i think those images that you have posted are heart and arrow pictures. From what i can tell, they are not true hearts and arrows but pretty darn close! does it matter- not really unless you like things to be absolutely perfect.
http://heartsandarrowsgrading.com/
ideal scope pictures are a little different.
http://www.ideal-scope.com.au/HCA_app.asp

having said that you have pointed out that the HCA <2.0, which means it will sparkle!
the real image looks good. great find!!!!

in my head - warmer coloured stones with rose gold would look quite good. as you have mentioned, you will need to look at this all in person.

I saw your other post about the ring design.....Something to consider about diamonds on the sides of the E ring:
1) a ring spacer (a really thin ring=https://www.pinterest.com/etsy360jewels/spacer-rings-for-women/) is required o'wise the plain wedding band may get abraded with the diamonds on the shank of the ering. OR
2) you could have a knife edge design for the wedding band.https://store.weddingringhotline.com/product.php?xProd=856

on a different note... tinatark diamond is a K colour set in WG. it looks pretty white or steely. she also posted a pic of the stone which shows flourescence- the 3rd pic that shows the diamond literally glowing ( i personally like that). From what i have read on PS, some flourescence in stones will have a positive effect like tinatark- making the stone look 'whiter' than the true K colour.

You are doing really well.. and good luck!
 
gregchang35|1434550106|3890263 said:
hi there,

i think those images that you have posted are heart and arrow pictures. From what i can tell, they are not true hearts and arrows but pretty darn close! does it matter- not really unless you like things to be absolutely perfect.
http://heartsandarrowsgrading.com/
ideal scope pictures are a little different.
http://www.ideal-scope.com.au/HCA_app.asp

Thanks. As you can see, lots to learn still.

So... say I wanted to pursue this stone from Solomon... would my next steps be to purchase it and bring it into a local jeweler for additional inspection?
 
To be honest, I have not dealt with Solomon. But, I think some ppl on PS have. So, I don't know the process. Do Solomon provide ideal scope images? If so- get them to take an image for you. That way you can be assured that he stone will sparkle and have little leakage problems, like in the images that I linked before.

If I recall correctly, this is not in their inventory? Do they make settings or get settings in for you? The reason I ask is that if u can get the setting and stone from the same place, it makes it easier. One vendor cannot blame another for what ever reason. If u know what I mean.

When buying online - make sure there is a full refund return policy. That way you are not locked into purchasing another diamond with that vendor, IF this stone doesn't work out for you. Does that make sense.

If the stone is not in their inventory and they call this stone in for you and you do not like, there may be a service or restocking fee.

Some online vendors provide full imaging of the stone so you know what u are getting so to speak. These imaging takes time and effort and therefore additional costs. So u have to read their fine print.

Also if u are going into a store to compare k colored stones- make sure they are all graded by GIA or AGS. like for like. EGL have slightly looser colour gradings. So a k colour in EGL may be an M in GIA terms. Does that make sense? Don't mean to overwhelm you.

Sorry, it's late at night here in AUS.

Hope others will chime in to help u in your way.
 
gregchang35|1434552192|3890281 said:
To be honest, I have not dealt with Solomon. But, I think some ppl on PS have. So, I don't know the process. Do Solomon provide ideal scope images? If so- get them to take an image for you. That way you can be assured that he stone will sparkle and have little leakage problems, like in the images that I linked before.

If I recall correctly, this is not in their inventory? Do they make settings or get settings in for you? The reason I ask is that if u can get the setting and stone from the same place, it makes it easier. One vendor cannot blame another for what ever reason. If u know what I mean.

When buying online - make sure there is a full refund return policy. That way you are not locked into purchasing another diamond with that vendor, IF this stone doesn't work out for you. Does that make sense.

If the stone is not in their inventory and they call this stone in for you and you do not like, there may be a service or restocking fee.

Some online vendors provide full imaging of the stone so you know what u are getting so to speak. These imaging takes time and effort and therefore additional costs. So u have to read their fine print.

Also if u are going into a store to compare k colored stones- make sure they are all graded by GIA or AGS. like for like. EGL have slightly looser colour gradings. So a k colour in EGL may be an M in GIA terms. Does that make sense? Don't mean to overwhelm you.

Sorry, it's late at night here in AUS.

Hope others will chime in to help u in your way.

Thanks for your advice!
 
Have you checked on the various websites what settings you like? If you tell them you see the exact same stone on other sites for cheaper, they may price match just to get your business. So I would choose the one you like the setting at.

If youre buying the setting separately, then disregard.
 
telephone89|1434557719|3890320 said:
Have you checked on the various websites what settings you like? If you tell them you see the exact same stone on other sites for cheaper, they may price match just to get your business. So I would choose the one you like the setting at.

If youre buying the setting separately, then disregard.

I think I'll be working with a local jeweler in my area for the setting. I'm trying to see if he'd be OK with me sourcing my own diamond or if he'd recommend otherwise. Sometimes I wish I could be like the average Joe; walk into Kay Jeweler's, find whatever is sparkly, and get it. Instead I always embark on an expedition to leave no stone unturned. In this case I literally am dealing with stones.
 
gregchang35|1434552192|3890281 said:
Also if u are going into a store to compare k colored stones- make sure they are all graded by GIA or AGS. like for like. EGL have slightly looser colour gradings. So a k colour in EGL may be an M in GIA terms. Does that make sense? Don't mean to overwhelm you.

This.

When I was looking - I only wanted to look at GIA graded stones - do not give in - I know diamonds and grading fairly well and some of the sales folk had me questioning my own preferences!
 
My jeweler is strongly discouraging me from anything lower than I colored. I didn't ask whether that was EGL I or GIA I though. I guess until I see the difference in person with my own two eyes I won't know.. Just really don't want to compromise on size or cut.
 
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