Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images posted

[KennyPowers]

Full disclosure. I already bought this from wf.

But, I'm not opposed to upgrading / changing out if need be. My OCD is getting to me and the visible cloud under the table on the 10x photo is getting to me.

Please review the stone and give me your honest impressions. My budget would be up to 24k or so and I want to stay with wf as they are local to me and I liked dealing wrh them.

Thanks so much, and your detailed, honest and educated opinion would help me a ton. I could stomach up to a j color worst case. Not proposing until late August.

Whiteflash "expert selection"
2.175c
H color
Si1
Ags 000
Hca grade : 0.8
Price ~ 22000

Ags

http://www.agslab.com/pdf_sync_reports/104068282005-PLDQR.PDF

 

[SirGuy]

Re: Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images pos

Overall it's not too bad, Kenny. The numbers are pretty good, as are the images. Leakage is something to look at. If your OCD is an issue with shopping I see what you mean about those inclusions all clustered together. If it's "eye clean" at SI1 normally we say go for it. But with the cloud and crystals there, I'd wonder how often you'd see a gleam of light and wonder if it's hitting the inclusions right there. It's easy to casually say, "Keep shopping,there's something better ," but sometimes other fishermen best you to the bigger fish.

If you're comfortable time-wise with a continued search, I'd look for one with "better" inclusions if you're sticking below VS2. It's a decent weight for your budget. If we think of the four C's as sliders on a sound board, which variables are more fixed than the others? Which C is the one you're most flexible on? That'll help with some others here searching.

 

[KennyPowers]

Re: Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images pos

Overall it's not too bad, Kenny. The numbers are pretty good, as are the images. Leakage is something to look at. If your OCD is an issue with shopping I see what you mean about those inclusions all clustered together. If it's "eye clean" at SI1 normally we say go for it. But with the cloud and crystals there, I'd wonder how often you'd see a gleam of light and wonder if it's hitting the inclusions right there. It's easy to casually say, "Keep shopping,there's something better ," but sometimes other fishermen best you to the bigger fish.

If you're comfortable time-wise with a continued search, I'd look for one with "better" inclusions if you're sticking below VS2. It's a decent weight for your budget. If we think of the four C's as sliders on a sound board, which variables are more fixed than the others? Which C is the one you're most flexible on? That'll help with some others here searching.

Wf certifies it eye clean and I cojldnt see the inclusion when I looked at it. I will go back this week to see it and examine very closely.

I am probably most flexible on color, not whatsoever on cut. Also size needs to be 2.1+.

Can you go into more detail on the anaylsis of the leakage? And more detail if uou can on the images and quality of the cut?

Here is a terrible pic of the stone in the center of this pic. The other two are wf "a cut above".

Thanks a ton!!

Also wanted to say my gf has no clue about diamonds, and would never notice or care about the tiny inclusions.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Re: Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images pos

I prefer VS whenever possible, personally. So I'd probably go for this one:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3157613.htm

You drop a grade in color, but you go up in clarity and cut (to ACA). Be sure you ask for the PS discount.

The diamond you posted above is totally fine as far as cut goes. It does not have a leakage problem.

 

[Lorelei]

Re: Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images pos

I prefer VS whenever possible, personally. So I'd probably go for this one:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3157613.htm

You drop a grade in color, but you go up in clarity and cut (to ACA). Be sure you ask for the PS discount.

The diamond you posted above is totally fine as far as cut goes. It does not have a leakage problem.

Hi Kenny,

It's a lovely stone, no leakage at all, fantastic cut, if you are a little OCD concerning the inclusions then maybe think about VS or another SI if one can be found that is eye clean to your specifications in this size range and quality of cut, but that depends on inventory. As you are returning this week to go and view it you can check it out carefully for yourself which puts you in a very good position indeed.

 

[SirGuy]

Re: Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images pos

Ah, so sorry about that! Typing on my iPad and it auto-corrected out my "not!" That sentence was that leakage is not something to look at, as in it looks great!

Thanks for catching that, guys.

 

[Lorelei]

Re: Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images pos

Ah, so sorry about that! Typing on my iPad and it auto-corrected out my "not!" That sentence was that leakage is not something to look at, as in it looks great!

Thanks for catching that, guys.

I thought that was weird SG and not something you would say, I hear you with the auto correct, it's a bit of a nuisance!

 

[KennyPowers]

Re: Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images pos

I prefer VS whenever possible, personally. So I'd probably go for this one:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3157613.htm

You drop a grade in color, but you go up in clarity and cut (to ACA). Be sure you ask for the PS discount.

The diamond you posted above is totally fine as far as cut goes. It does not have a leakage problem.

thats a spectacular stone, thanks for the link. ill have them pull that one so I can take a look. im really not sure how much of a difference there is between expert selection and ACA. I couldn't tell last time when I looked at some of each, but ill take a much closer look this time.

clearly that one has superior symmetry (even to my untrained eye), but the price is a few K higher, and I drop a color grade. ill have to be pretty impressed to make a move on that one. but not out of the realm of possibility

really the only downside is the inclusion on the images, but I couldn't see it in person. ill have to really be critical of it this week when I see it

 

[KennyPowers]

Re: Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images pos

Hi Kenny,

It's a lovely stone, no leakage at all, fantastic cut, if you are a little OCD concerning the inclusions then maybe think about VS or another SI if one can be found that is eye clean to your specifications in this size range and quality of cut, but that depends on inventory. As you are returning this week to go and view it you can check it out carefully for yourself which puts you in a very good position indeed.

thanks, Lorelei!

I appreciate the positive feedback on the cut, I was really impressed in person.

its odd because it says eye clean in their certification, and I couldn't see the inclusion.....but then when you look at the images and the 10x shot, you can see it clear as day on the arrow and also some chatter on the edges as well.

I just don't want to spend this kind of money and have those types of visible imperfections. the question is, can they really be seen in person on the stone? and I need to take a closer look for this.

thanks again. I just really wanted to see what everyone thought about the inclusions and how big a deal they seem to be

 

[KennyPowers]

Re: Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images pos

thoughts on this? how does it compare to the WF stone in my OP?

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-5076824-2.24-carat-Round-diamond-J-color-VVS1-clarity.aspx

charts look good to my non critical eye...?

 

[MissGotRocks]

Re: Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images pos

It doesn't compare at all. Go back to your original stone! This stone scores higher on the HCA, is deeper so doesn't face up as optimally as it could, and the first stone has a better combo of color/clarity IMO.

 

[RockyRacoon]

Re: Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images pos

I have to say that the stone you originally selected is a solid choice. In that price range and with those specs, I'm not able to locate a better option.

Here is what I was able to find, for comparison purposes, since you posted the J-colored stoned from b2c:

2.245ct, J, VS2 (with blue fluor)
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/2.245-j-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104071920006


Personally, I would suggest sticking with your original stone, but wanted to pass along this option, anyway!

 

[KennyPowers]

Re: Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images pos

Haha thanks everyone. I thinky anxiety is getting to me. Plus the idea of si1 as well.

Thanks for reaffirming my choice!

 

[marcy]

Re: Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images pos

I think the original diamond looks great.

 

[RockyRacoon]

Re: Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images pos

J-colored stoned

I assure you that this was a typo, and I was not encouraging you to get stoned on a J!

 

[Lorelei]

Re: Please help analyze this stone : ags cert and images pos

J-colored stoned

I assure you that this was a typo, and I was not encouraging you to get stoned on a J!