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Please advice - About to purchase the diamond

r1ta_s

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I've learnt a lot regarding diamonds in the past few months, so thank you all for the knowledge you offer to a new people such as me. I still am not comfortable enough to make the decision without running my choice by the experts here.

I am interested in a SI2, K color, Excellent cut GIA diamond. Here are the specs from the GIA report:

Depth: 61.3%
Table: 59%
Crown Angle: 33.5°
Crown Height: 13.5%
Pavilion Angle: 41.0°
Pavilion Depth: 43.5%
Star Length: 50%
Lower Half: 80%
Girdle: Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted (4.5%)
Culet: None

HCA : 1.5

The vendor(PS recommended) confirmed it is eyeclean, fiery, and sharp and I trust his opinion.

Here are the IS and ASET images. I have it on hold, can you please let me know if there are any red flags. I understand it is a little warmer diamond and I am OK with it.

ND461-10%20ASET.jpg
ND461-10%20Idealscope.jpg
 
Can anyone provide input on the IS and ASET images? I need to make a decision today.

Thanks!
 
the images look good but is it eye-clean to your standards? how do you feel about K color?
 
I don't care for it at all, I don't like the plot on the clarity, and I don't like the ASET/IS images. Unless that thing isn't in the holder right, it's not impressing me at all.
 
I think it looks nice as long as it is eye clean to your standards. If I'm considering this stone I would be a little concerned over the dark crystals (?) spread from 10 - 12 o'clock in the IS.
 
ame|1320857392|3057811 said:
I don't care for it at all, I don't like the plot on the clarity, and I don't like the ASET/IS images. Unless that thing isn't in the holder right, it's not impressing me at all.

the OP did not provide the clarity plot or a link to the GIA report?
 
I just typed a big response and lost it, darn.

Thanks for the quick responses. Here is the link to the GIA report: https://myapps.gia.edu/ReportCheckPortal/getReportData.do?&reportno=1119246110&weight=1.82

I understand it is SI2 and has inclusions but the vendor confirmed it is 100% eye clean. As long as it does not impact the light return, I don't have mind clean issue.

The price is very good for a 1.82 ct.

Regarding the color, I looked at some J stones and I couldn't differentiate the color from higher colored stones.
 
r1ta_s|1320858672|3057834 said:
I just typed a big response and lost it, darn.

Thanks for the quick responses. Here is the link to the GIA report: https://myapps.gia.edu/ReportCheckPortal/getReportData.do?&reportno=1119246110&weight=1.82

I understand it is SI2 and has inclusions but the vendor confirmed it is 100% eye clean. As long as it does not impact the light return, I don't have mind clean issue.

The price is very good for a 1.82 ct.

Regarding the color, I looked at some J stones and I couldn't differentiate the color from higher colored stones.

If you haven't seen a K in person, especially with a faint brown modifier, be prepared to return it. IMO there's a huge difference between J and K with faint brown.
 
slg47|1320857683|3057819 said:
ame|1320857392|3057811 said:
I don't care for it at all, I don't like the plot on the clarity, and I don't like the ASET/IS images. Unless that thing isn't in the holder right, it's not impressing me at all.

the OP did not provide the clarity plot or a link to the GIA report?
If I can see them that clearly in an ASET/IS then it's probably pretty included.
 
r1ta_s|1320858672|3057834 said:
I just typed a big response and lost it, darn.

Thanks for the quick responses. Here is the link to the GIA report: https://myapps.gia.edu/ReportCheckPortal/getReportData.do?&reportno=1119246110&weight=1.82

I understand it is SI2 and has inclusions but the vendor confirmed it is 100% eye clean. As long as it does not impact the light return, I don't have mind clean issue.

The price is very good for a 1.82 ct.

Regarding the color, I looked at some J stones and I couldn't differentiate the color from higher colored stones.
I'd keep looking, go a little smaller and either increase the color or clarity a grade.
 
thbmok|1320859135|3057841 said:
r1ta_s|1320858672|3057834 said:
I just typed a big response and lost it, darn.

Thanks for the quick responses. Here is the link to the GIA report: https://myapps.gia.edu/ReportCheckPortal/getReportData.do?&reportno=1119246110&weight=1.82

I understand it is SI2 and has inclusions but the vendor confirmed it is 100% eye clean. As long as it does not impact the light return, I don't have mind clean issue.

The price is very good for a 1.82 ct.

Regarding the color, I looked at some J stones and I couldn't differentiate the color from higher colored stones.

If you haven't seen a K in person, especially with a faint brown modifier, be prepared to return it. IMO there's a huge difference between J and K with faint brown.


I disagree, I would rather have a K with faint brown than a K with the usual yellow, if looking more colourless is the goal. Trace of brown is harder for the human eye to see than yellow, MY human eyes have confirmed this anyway with a pair of GIA Ls... and there are reports on here of the brown sometimes making the stone look slightly pink, if that's the case it's a bonus IMO!

Eyeclean - to what standard? Decide what you need to be happy with the stone - completely clean from 6" face-up? From 12"? Clean from the sides? Prongable inclusions okay (and will the prongs orientation on the setting you're considering cover them)? And find out if the stone meets your specific requirements, different vendors have different in-house definitions of the term "eyeclean" that may or may not match what you are looking for.

No red flags in the numbers/pics.
 
Yssie|1320862806|3057898 said:
thbmok|1320859135|3057841 said:
r1ta_s|1320858672|3057834 said:
I just typed a big response and lost it, darn.

Thanks for the quick responses. Here is the link to the GIA report: https://myapps.gia.edu/ReportCheckPortal/getReportData.do?&reportno=1119246110&weight=1.82

I understand it is SI2 and has inclusions but the vendor confirmed it is 100% eye clean. As long as it does not impact the light return, I don't have mind clean issue.

The price is very good for a 1.82 ct.

Regarding the color, I looked at some J stones and I couldn't differentiate the color from higher colored stones.

If you haven't seen a K in person, especially with a faint brown modifier, be prepared to return it. IMO there's a huge difference between J and K with faint brown.


I disagree, I would rather have a K with faint brown than a K with the usual yellow, if looking more colourless is the goal. Trace of brown is harder for the human eye to see than yellow, MY human eyes have confirmed this anyway with a pair of GIA Ls... and there are reports on here of the brown sometimes making the stone look slightly pink, if that's the case it's a bonus IMO!

Yes, but it really depends on what the OP is looking for. From what has been posted I just felt it's necessary to warn the OP that the difference may be more noticeable than expected.

From what I have seen in person there's a huge difference between J and K, and the faint brown adds on an additional dimension. I prefer K over K with faint brown but IMO color is all down to personal preference. In any case, if the OP is going ahead with the purchase I strongly suggest the OP to order it loose and see it in person before setting the stone.
 
thbmok|1320866153|3057957 said:
Yes, but it really depends on what the OP is looking for. From what has been posted I just felt it's necessary to warn the OP that the difference may be more noticeable than expected.

From what I have seen in person there's a huge difference between J and K, and the faint brown adds on an additional dimension. I prefer K over K with faint brown but IMO color is all down to personal preference. In any case, if the OP is going ahead with the purchase I strongly suggest the OP to order it loose and see it in person before setting the stone.


Ah - I could not agree more! Rita - please do have the stone shipped out loose, see what your eyes think of it IRL before committing it to a setting. That's the ONLY way to make a truly educated decision.
 
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