Oval ASET, please advise!

[Wildview]

I've received 4 ASET images for ovals, do any of these look good or should I move on ?

 

[Gypsy]

Well, ovals are REALLY hard.

I think this one is above average:


And If I'm not mistaken this is the same stone right? http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/0.73-carat-f-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-214140


The video and the ASET together show a nice stone that is above average for ovals. Slight bowtie. Great spread.


And this one though is brighter:

But I need the video to see how it looks first. CAN YOU POST? I need to see the bowtie.


I think it's worth seeing one of them in person to see what you think one of them in person. Which one did the gemologist recommend?

Can you see it before setting (or are you getting the setting from JA? Because they return it all)...


Do you have a setting in mind?

 

[Wildview]

The ASET's were listed by preference of the gemologist. Here are the videos in order of ASET listed and gemologist preference. My preference when I viewed them was the 3rd stone, followed by 2nd, 1st and 4th.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/0.75-carat-d-color-si1-clarity-sku-211126

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/0.73-carat-f-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-214140

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/0.90-carat-e-color-vs2-clarity-sku-275966

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/0.73-carat-d-color-vs1-clarity-sku-294125

Here is the report I was given

With ASET images you want to see a lot of red (this is your direct light return) and green (indirect light return) with a little bit of blue (this is the contrast in the diamond) and very little to no black (this is your light leakage).

When comparing these diamonds, the gemologist found the 0.75 carat-D-SI1 (diamond 211126; $2,790) to be his top pick. It has the least pronounced bowtie and has the best amount of brilliance (white light return), fire (dispersion of color) and sparkle that is well balanced and symmetrical. He also found the outline of the diamond to be the most attractive. The 0.73 carat-F-VVS2 (diamond 214140; $2,700) is a close second due to it being a next best performer and having no bowtie. It also has a very attractive attractive outline. The 0.90 carat-E-VS2 (diamond 275966; $4,090) was not recommended as it has the most pronounced bowtie of the three. That in turn, is causing the diamond to have weaker performance than the other two. The 0.75 carat-D-VS1 (diamond 294125; $2,820) was also not recommended as it appears cloudy from the fluorescence; which is causing it to be the weakest performer of the four. All four diamonds are completely "eye clean" and face up a bright, icy white color.

 

[Gypsy]

I'd go with the gemologist's pick.

If you can afford it have the first two shipped to you. And then pick the one you like best in person, and return the other one.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/0.75-carat-d-color-si1-clarity-sku-211126
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/0.73-carat-f-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-214140


I didn't see the video of the D, but it does look very bright, though it does have a small bowtie.

 

[Wildview]

Gypsy>>>

It's tough because I thought the 90 pointer was the best when looking at the video. I don't see a bow tie in the video or on the ASET but the gemologist said it was "not recommended as it has the most pronounced bowtie of the three". I feel like I can't make heads or tails of what a good oval is supposed to look like in video or ASET(images differ between vendors).

It's also tough because the way the report is written it's as if it's a bubble of just these 4 diamonds, they could all be dogs or all be fantastic, either way they get ranked 1 through 4.

Your recommendation of seeing them in person is probably the best route but it would be one at a time with no way to do a side by side.

Hopefully we can get some others to weigh in on the situation, the hold will lift today or early tomorrow I think.

 

[Niel]

I prefer the D best, I prefer the faceting pattern and the shape of the F VVS looks like a tube. I remember that stone i had advised a friend to look into in when he was buying a diamond, i think its lovely, and something about the shape seems quite inviting. If you don't mind me asking, how do you intend to set these ovals?

 

[tyty333]

I like the 1st one the gemologist recommended. The second one is nice but I'm not fond of the length/width ratio...if that doesnt
bother you then great.

When you say the gemologist is talking in a bubble of these 4 only...I really think these are all lovely ovals and if you look
at the asets they are all relatively close (IMO). Usually, posters dont get the choice between 4 nice ovals because we can
only find 1 or 2. I wish you could see your top two choices together. Is there anyway they can be sent to an appraiser
that is close by? It will cost you a little bit more money but you'll have the satisfaction of knowing you picked the right one
for you.

 

[tyty333]

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I prefer the D best, I prefer the faceting pattern and the shape of the F VVS looks like a tube. I remember that stone i had advised a friend to look into in when he was buying a diamond, i think its lovely, and something about the shape seems quite inviting. If you don't mind me asking, how do you intend to set these ovals?

Niel, what are you trying to say? Sounds like you are saying you prefer the faceting pattern and shape of the FVVS...then you say it
looks like a tube? I think its missing a comma somewhere ...before the "and" maybe?

 

[Niel]

Re: ?

I prefer the D best, I prefer the faceting pattern and the shape of the F VVS looks like a tube. I remember that stone i had advised a friend to look into in when he was buying a diamond, i think its lovely, and something about the shape seems quite inviting. If you don't mind me asking, how do you intend to set these ovals?

Niel, what are you trying to say? Sounds like you are saying you prefer the faceting pattern and shape of the FVVS...then you say it
looks like a tube? I think its missing a comma somewhere ...before the "and" maybe?

I prefer the D. I prefer its faceting pattern. The F looks like a tube.

 

[Wildview]

>>Niel, how I'll set the oval depends on the oval I choose as there is around a $1300 difference in stones. I've a $5000-$5500 budget, platinum and halo are preferred but that's gonna be a squeeze. I've shopped around quite a bit and spoken with Erica D of LAD and Denise at BGD. Looked at Bev K, Yoni, and G&Co.

The F.73 (34.27mm) and D.75 (34.05mm) would allow me more play with a setting but the 90 pointer faces up considerably larger at 40.9mm or so.

>>tyty, if they're all winners that could make things a bit easier for me, then it's basically a matter of taste. Gemologist stated they were all eye clean. I could bring in F.73 and D.75 at the same time by using my $5500 budget but the appraisal would cut into the setting fund, which I'd be loathe to do.

I prefer the video and possibly the ASET of the 90 pointer, gemologist says it has a bow tie but I can't see it in video or ASET. The .75 does have brighter green/red on the ends of the diamond than the 90 pointer. While I've been researching for months to a great extent, the gemologist is the expert. After that's it's a tie between the one the gemologist recommended, D .75 and F .73(tube). I think D .75 looks brighter but I like the longer shape F.73

 

[Niel]

>>Niel, how I'll set the oval depends on the oval I choose as there is around a $1300 difference in stones. I've a $5000-$5500 budget, platinum and halo are preferred but that's gonna be a squeeze. I've shopped around quite a bit and spoken with Erica D of LAD and Denise at BGD. Looked at Bev K, Yoni, and G&Co.

The F.73 (34.27mm) and D.75 (34.05mm) would allow me more play with a setting but the 90 pointer faces up considerably larger at 40.9mm or so.

>>tyty, if they're all winners that could make things a bit easier for me, then it's basically a matter of taste. Gemologist stated they were all eye clean. I could bring in F.73 and D.75 at the same time by using my $5500 budget but the appraisal would cut into the setting fund, which I'd be loathe to do.

I prefer the video and possibly the ASET of the 90 pointer, gemologist says it has a bow tie but I can't see it in video or ASET. The .75 does have brighter green/red on the ends of the diamond than the 90 pointer. While I've been researching for months to a great extent, the gemologist is the expert. After that's it's a tie between the one the gemologist recommended, D .75 and F .73(tube). I think D .75 looks brighter but I like the longer shape F.73

Did any of the people you contacted come back with a budget you could work with? A lot of people seem to be finding CVB designs to work with their budget, i might try contacting them if you other ones don't work.

Sense you're adding a halo i think it would be smart to go with the best performing stones, vs trying to get the biggest, sense the halo will add a lot to the overall appearance and finger coverage of the ring. What size is her finger?

 

[tyty333]

So, you are liking the .90 for the size. Here is what I'm thinking. It does not have the classic bow-tie where a few facets are
dark/turn dark and stay dark. However, it does have a range of facets through the middle that do turn off (go dark). This is
much better than the classic bow-tie. It does have nice faceting pattern in the middle and it does have more red like Gypsy
pointed out.

Once again, I can only suggest that you have it sent to you to play with and determine whether the "bow-tie" vs. the size is a
tolerable trade-off.

 

[Wildview]

Niel>> Who is CVB again ?With the smaller stones some are able to accomodate. BGD can't get me in a platinum halo at $2500 but they can do Engraved Cathedral or Sleek Micropave with Milgrain for roughly $2000
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/e...nes/engraved-cathedral-18k-white-gold-5453w18
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/e...sleek-micro-pave-with-milgrain-platinum-5544p

I'm able to do The Gabbie Halo, platinum, half shank melee from Erica D at $2500. I'm just not certain how that will turn out in Oval form.
http://www.loveaffairdiamonds.com/the-gabbie-halo

There are some options from Bev K, though it's tough to find actual images of specific models. Just CAD. Bev K has a lot of Halo's with greatly varying prices and their not listed readily. I did get a quote on 5 from GOG. R370, R1185 and R396 were all $3000+
These two would both fall below $2600.
R378and R864
http://www.beverleyk.com/engagement-rings/halo/r378-a-d-d-cz.html
http://www.beverleyk.com/engagement-rings/halo/r864-a-wf-d-d-cz.html

tyty333>> I'll most likely go with D.75, the ASET was good, the gemologist picked it and it allows me to get a platinum halo.

It's 11:45 EST I have 4hours and 15 minutes to decide.

 

[Niel]

The blue spinel one on her site seems nice for an oval
https://www.etsy.com/shop/CVBinspiredDesign

I've worked with her. There's a free threads up now of people working with her. Just an idea of the other places can't fit the budget.

I think the D is the way to go as it seems to check all your boxes.

 

[Wildview]

D/SI1/.75 on its way, thanks for the help. Hopefully it looks great in person!

Niel>> Thanks, I'll definitely look into that, I like her work. Her finger size is 5.5

Now if I can figure out a way to make sure I'm home when the package arrives so the g/f doesn't see it.....

 

[Niel]

D/SI1/.75 on its way, thanks for the help. Hopefully it looks great in person!

Niel>> Thanks, I'll definitely look into that, I like her work. Her finger size is 5.5

Now if I can figure out a way to make sure I'm home when the package arrives so the g/f doesn't see it.....

That stone in a halo will look perfect on her smaller finger.

FedEx will hold packages and let you pick them up if you wanted.

 

[tyty333]

Report back on what you think. I hope you like it!