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@sledge or @rockysalamander could I get your inputs if you get a minute. Only due to seeing you guys comment quite frequently on everyone’s post helping them out. I believe I seen sledge talking about all the angles in a post that was way above my head. Any input towards the stone? Or would you recommend a different stone in the same range? Around the 1.5 f/gvs2/si1. I’m hoping this won’t look to small on my girlfriends hand. She wears a 6.25 but her fingers look longer/slender Especially since I’m going to do a solitaire so I cannot add any size with a halo.
Better late than never, eh?
Anyhow, I think I recommended this 1.48 F VS2 in another thread. I love it from the fact it's super clean, great color and gives you great size while avoiding the price increase that comes when you hit the official 1.5+ carat magic weight.
IMO, an all around performer that is beautiful. The big bold flashes you are talking about is because of that small 55 table and gorgeous 34.6 crown & 40.8 pavilion combo. LGF's are at 77 which is a good balance between 75 and 80. I prefer smaller values as they will yield fatter arrows and larger bolder flashes of light return. Larger LGF's provide a more splintery return.
I am not sure what other stones you compared this against but I can see why it performed so well. It is a freakin' firecracker!
Gorgeous proportions and overall beautiful stone, however, I am not a fan of the girdle reaching feather inclusion.
I prefer this one: https://www.whiteflash.com/pdf/104103809031.pdf
Here is a comparison link with the 1.48 F VS2 and this 1.431 F VS2. As you can see the values are nearly identical. I'm not sure you would ever be able to visibly discern differences in the minute table sizes. The stars and pavilion angles are also very similar but to me it feels like the 1.48 has just a little more punch. But both are rather fantastic to be honest.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/compare.aspx?idnos=4066130,4070346
In an effort to analyze them closer I did side by side videos and tried to screen capture them. I had a tough time overall as you can see below, but again, the 1.48 just "felt" better to me.
Although 0.10mm difference may not even be discernible, I do like the size bump of the 1.48 as well. And while I'm not crazy about the feather location I'm not sure it's a real issue. WF is very particular with their ACA line and what can or can't make the grade. They have reputation and a brand to protect so I don't think you will have an issue.
Still as @rockysalamander suggested, I'd ask WF to pull both stones and evaluate them side by side and ask for additional photos & videos under various light conditions. Ask about the feather on the 1.48 and if there is any risk and if risk is present how they can mitigate/zero it.
Out of the box suggestion. You 100% need to know if your girl likes antique cuts, but it is rare to find this high color and clarity in a nice antique stone. Spread is on par with the selections posted here. Price is nice.
https://www.jewelsbygrace.com/1-61ct-old-european-cut-diamond-gia-g-vs2
Nice find!
I've learned I am a sucker for OEC's. My future sister-in-law has one that she believes is an F VS2 (she inherited from her grandmother & going off memory from what the cert says) and it's a complete sparkle bomb. Both her and her husband are deaf, so when my fiancee and her start doing sign language I normally have drool rolling out of my mouth and not sure rather to watch my fiancee's BGD stone or her OEC. Her stone is larger and is cut different so it sparkles a little different. They mess with me all the time and will do weird hand signs when they catch me staring at the bling, lol.
But if your girl doesn't like OEC's then don't waste your time. At the end of the day, this is HER ring and you want to get something that SHE loves.
My budget was 14 for the diamond. I can be flexible 1-2k. I guess a little more if necessary but would rather stay strict around 15-16ish. I’ve got a local store that’s sent me specs on a diamond. I do not know if it will be nice or not in person. And it’s a little smaller then what I wanted.
Also I know she wants a round but not the euro cut.
Here are the specs of the diamond a local place called in. This was around 11 I believe.
It's hard to say. I know the 33.5/41 angle combo isn't something that we typically recommend but there are a few that really love this combo. One a good note it's very complimentary as the shallow 33.5 crown is offset by a steep pavilion. Also because of the smaller 55% table, you are still getting 15% crown height. The problem I see is that 41 (43.5% depth) is about the max you want to go on the pavilion.
If you aren't aware, there are 8 pavilion mains. When GIA measures them at the lab they average those values and then round them to the nearest 0.2 degrees. This means there could be values < or > 41 degrees. The problem being > 41 degrees and you start risking light leakage which is obviously bad.
To know for sure you need an idealscope and/or ASET scope to further analyze the light performance of the stone. Most local jewelers don't know what these are and consequently don't have them. So you either have to risk buying the stone without the advanced imaging or buy your own scopes and evaluate them that way. Alternatively, they may have a SARIN machine and could scan the diamond for the exact values of each individual facet that we could then analyze.
For me, I'm not sure it's worth the risk. But perhaps your internal risk tolerance is different than mine. I'd rather spend $15k and get a guaranteed performer and excellent trade-in program with top notch customer service than $11k with a 50/50 shot of being great.