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Jay8

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Hi -

I''ve 99% decided to go with something from Good Old Gold, since I don''t live too terribly far from there, and the option to be able to go in with my gf if resizing (or, heaven forfend, a return for something else!) is needed. Also, I plan on looking at the stones in person.

I''ve got this on hold:

http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/3779/

It''s hurting the budget, but only a little at this point. They also have a .95 princess cut in stock that gives me more budget breathing room for a setting: http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/5875/. There is a very large difference in color between the two - - but I have not seen these in person YET and who knows, the color difference might not bother me (or her?). I am leaning toward spending the extra on the one I have reserved, but again, I need to look at ''em. (There is nothing within budget between .9 and 1.05 that is between these two colors, in my search of their site, which is why these are all that I am posting.) All thoughts appreciated, based on the two posted stones.

Here is where it gets more muddled for me: I had located a setting design that I think my gf will really like. It''s something found on a lot of sites, and is referred to as "cross prong" or "x prong." I personally like the design of the James Allen version better than the ones I''ve received photos of from GOG; however the GOG version will have a platinum head on 18k yellow gold, vs. all yellow gold. The price difference between the two ($1,100 vs. $450) definitely is what is putting the final strain on my budget, in addition to the stone possibly being a tad over budget.

I really wanted to give her the "final presentation," if you will, the right stone in a great setting, so she can know that I really, really took the time to think about her tastes and took the care needed to find something she would love. I''ve been toying with the idea (since the beginning of my search) of giving a great stone in a super-basic inexpensive setting, and letting her choose whatever setting she would want, up to that max price. This pricing surprise is making me reconsider that as an option, and I am wondering what you folks think . . . . (I guess I want it to feel like I am including her, and not like a cop-out, since I DO think I could choose something she''d like.) ; )

All thoughts welcomed, and thank you in advance!

Jay
 
Hi Jay,

The diamonds looks great, GOG have access to many more settings than you can see on their site so I would ask Jon if he can get you something similar. As to the colour differences you are well placed being able to see the diamonds in person as to which to pick!
 
They are both gorgeous stones! The I is facing up (how big it looks) a good deal more, 5.42 vs. 5.17 mm. So if the color doesn't seem noticeable, and in a very well cut stone it often isn't, I'd go for that one. Just spend lots of time looking at them, especially in natural diffused lighting for the warmth/color aspect.


As for the setting, besides the price, what is it you like more about the JA setting? I have the Vatche X-Prong, which I also got from GOG, and I can tell you it's a beautiful, very well made setting. I just looked at the JA version, and I would personally go for the Vatche. But I'm interested in what you are thinking!
 
Looks good for both stones. Ditto on the settings, GOG has more than what they have up in their webpage, a work in progress.
 
Date: 5/21/2009 7:55:28 AM
Author: Ellen
They are both gorgeous stones! The I is facing up (how big it looks) a good deal more, 5.42 vs. 5.17 mm. So if the color doesn''t seem noticeable, and in a very well cut stone it often isn''t, I''d go for that one. Just spend lots of time looking at them, especially in natural diffused lighting for the warmth/color aspect.


As for the setting, besides the price, what is it you like more about the JA setting? I have the Vatche X-Prong, which I also got from GOG, and I can tell you it''s a beautiful, very well made setting. I just looked at the JA version, and I would personally go for the Vatche. But I''m interested in what you are thinking!

Thanks for the opinions!

There is something about the JA - I just like the cleaner, slightly more squared edges, and I just kind of feel like this would look really good on my gf''s finger, I can''t totally explain it, it''s more of a gut reaction.

I don''t doubt that the Vatche is beautiful - I''ve only seen photos, though, at this point. Since the setting is not returnable, I am really considering going with the least expensive setting possible and letting her pick out something.

For background purposes, my gf and I have had discussions about people proposing, and I know that she would have no problem whatsoever proposing to me if I was taking too darned long - - so my feeling that she would appreciate input into part of the ring is fairly decently-founded. ; ) At the same time I know that she would truly appreciate being surprised by a complete, gorgeous ring.

But if I''m gonna spend $1100, I kinda feel like it had *better* be exactly what she wants, y''know?

Again, thanks for both replies!
 
Maybe just get a temporary setting then and let her, or together, choose the final setting?
 
If GOG can''t come up with the exact setting then it might be possible to purchase the diamond from GOG and the setting from JA. The only snag is that the diamond might not be covered against damage should this happen if the diamond is set in this way, usually if you have the diamond set by the seller they will assume responsibility should anything happen. This is rare but needs careful thought.
 
StoneCold: RIGHT, that's what I was thinking - should we pick out the final setting together, or does it seem like a cop out? If anyone has any experience with this - - I don't want to rob the moment of its total surprise and excitement by adding, "oh yeah, we have to go shopping for the setting now." I *think* she would actually enjoy this, but I am wondering if anyone can speak from personal experience?

Lorelei, I thought of that too and have the same concerns you do - I am pretty risk-averse, which is one reason I want to see the stones in person rather than ordering online. (Also, I like that the GOG stones are AGS ideal, it leaves out the guesswork on cut!)

Thanks, you guys are great. : )
 
Date: 5/21/2009 7:55:28 AM
Author: Ellen
They are both gorgeous stones! The I is facing up (how big it looks) a good deal more, 5.42 vs. 5.17 mm. So if the color doesn''t seem noticeable, and in a very well cut stone it often isn''t, I''d go for that one.
Wow, you weren''t kidding.

Just got back from my field trip to Massapequa Park (GOG). Sarah was *very* helpful and spent quite some time showing me the two stones I''d selected as well as others for comparison purposes.
Bottom line, I could barely tell the difference in color between the F and the I. I found it rather hard to believe. Sarah took out comparably cut stones of D and J color so that I could see the full range of color. She also entertained all of my questions. I spent a lot of time just shaking my head at how close the F and the I appeared.

Given the oh-so-subtle difference in color (to me, anyway), the fact that the I is larger, and because the difference in price will allow me a lot more leeway to find a really special setting, I went with the .95 I. The clarity was not really a factor - the .9 F was a **very** eye clean SI1.

I am really not sure which way to go on the setting: temporary, and let her have input into the final setting? The XProng is nice, but not exactly quite it. It''s close. I''m having a tough time deciding.

Again, does anyone have experience with giving/being given a stone in a temporary setting and having input from there?

Thanks!
 
Congrats. :)

Have you check with GOG on the concept of a temp setting? I am not sure if they will accept the old setting in exchange for buying the new one with them.
 
Congrats!!!
 
Yes, I checked, and as far as I understand it, I can''t return the temporary one as a trade against the more permanent one. It''d be something I have to factor into the budget, which I can certainly do.
 
Date: 5/21/2009 10:55:14 PM
Author: Jay8

Date: 5/21/2009 7:55:28 AM
Author: Ellen
They are both gorgeous stones! The I is facing up (how big it looks) a good deal more, 5.42 vs. 5.17 mm. So if the color doesn''t seem noticeable, and in a very well cut stone it often isn''t, I''d go for that one.

Wow, you weren''t kidding.

Just got back from my field trip to Massapequa Park (GOG). Sarah was *very* helpful and spent quite some time showing me the two stones I''d selected as well as others for comparison purposes.

Bottom line, I could barely tell the difference in color between the F and the I. I found it rather hard to believe. Sarah took out comparably cut stones of D and J color so that I could see the full range of color. She also entertained all of my questions. I spent a lot of time just shaking my head at how close the F and the I appeared.

Given the oh-so-subtle difference in color (to me, anyway), the fact that the I is larger, and because the difference in price will allow me a lot more leeway to find a really special setting, I went with the .95 I. The clarity was not really a factor - the .9 F was a **very** eye clean SI1.

I am really not sure which way to go on the setting: temporary, and let her have input into the final setting? The XProng is nice, but not exactly quite it. It''s close. I''m having a tough time deciding.

Again, does anyone have experience with giving/being given a stone in a temporary setting and having input from there?

Thanks!
Yay, congrats! You are so lucky to have been able to see them in person. Amazing what a great cut can do, isn''t it!?


As for your question about a temp setting, I''d have no problem with that. But then, my hubby just proposed with no ring at all, and I was thrilled. It was a surprise, but I got to pick what I wanted. I''ve never been sorry that it worked that way!
 
I would be THRILLED if my husband proposed with the diamond ONLY - no temporary setting. I would love the fact that I got to pick out the setting myself because I think it shows thoughtfulness on his part. If you don''t like that idea, definitely the temporary setting.
 
Thanks for the feedback (and Ellen, thanks again for the thoughts on color).

I am hesitant to propose with a loose stone for two reasons: one, I would be worried sick about losing or damaging it more easily, and two, I think she would like to have something to wear, even if temporarily. It''ll probably take us at least a week to get back out to GOG to check things out and choose a setting, etc.

Thanks, and have a wonderful weekend. :)
 
Date: 5/22/2009 4:22:52 PM
Author: Jay8
Thanks for the feedback (and Ellen, thanks again for the thoughts on color).

I am hesitant to propose with a loose stone for two reasons: one, I would be worried sick about losing or damaging it more easily, and two, I think she would like to have something to wear, even if temporarily. It''ll probably take us at least a week to get back out to GOG to check things out and choose a setting, etc.

Thanks, and have a wonderful weekend. :)
Congrats on finding a beautiful stone! As for proposing....I would be thrilled to pick out my own setting, but admittedly disappointed to see the diamond and not be able to wear it. I almost think it''s easier with no ring than the tease of seeing a fabulous stone you can''t wear! I would vote in favor of a cheap temporary setting if you can swing it. It might take her a while to find exactly what she wants as well.
 
I also vote for putting it into a temporary setting. Maybe she will take a along time and look at many different settings. During that time she''ll want an ering to wear. HTH
 
Thanks everyone. I asked the opinion of a good friend who knows my gf fairly well. He totally grasped the dilemma: yes, she would definitely love to be involved and to pick her setting, BUT does it take anything away from the moment of proposal and seeing the ring to see a sort of average setting?

I am leaning toward letting her pick, even though, as I said, I am fairly confident that she would like what I would pick out. I am hoping that this wonderfully brilliant stone will capture the moment and override the lack of a more personalized setting.

That said, once I place the order, I have to cool my heels for a bit - - because of work stuff going on, the next chance she and I have to get away is June 20th, so that is the date I am aiming for. I have to make my choice and get everything ordered this coming week (because of work stuff that will demand every waking minute for the next couple of weeks).
 
Keep us posted
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I think you''re wise to follow your heart, whatever that is.
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Good luck, and please let us know how it all goes!
 
Hey folks. Decided to go with the $250 sort-of-temporary setting, even though it can only be resold for scrap (which I think might be $20 or so.) I went this route because even though I think she will love the setting, my concern is that she might not like the look of yellow gold with a platinum head, and therefore want her to have input and at least get the full explanation of why it''s done that way.

Moving forward!
 
This is how it turned out! Assuming that I properly uploaded the photo, you can see the nearly-final result. This is the (far) less expensive setting; she can pick out the final. Now I have to cool it for a couple of weeks to focus on work and wait for the weekend where we can finally both get away together.

Vprong14KyellowgoldshankWGhead95IVS1profile.jpg
 
side view

Vprong14KyellowgoldshankWGhead95IVS1side.jpg
 
front view

Vprong14KyellowgoldshankWGheadwith95IVS1front.jpg
 
Beautiful! Congrats! Be sure to come back and let us know what she chooses!
 
Gorgeous and wonderful to see some YG!!
 
Good luck. :)
 
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