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3cd4her

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Round Brilliant
Measurements: 8.34 - 8.36 x 5.11 mm
Carat Weight: 2.18 carat
Color Grade: H
Clarity Grade: SI1
Cut Grade: Ideal
Proportions:
Depth: 61.3%
Table: 56%
Crown Angle: 34.5°
Crown Height: 13%
Pavilion Angle: 40.0°
Pavilion Depth: 43%
Girdle: THIN TO MID
Culet: Pointed
Finish:
Polish: Ideal
Symmetry: Ideal
Fluorescence: None
Clarity Characteristics: Crystal, Feather, Indented Natural
ACS: 0.4

Thoughts on this diamond? I don't have an Ideal scope image or anything yet, but will post once I have. The inclusions are all near the girdle except for one small one under the table. I think this one looks very promising? The numbers are near correct from what I could make out on the cert if anything looks off.
 

JulieN

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I wouldn't touch it, if the pavilion angle is 40.0 Are you sure that is correct? Maybe your copy of the report is blurry? Is it an AGS 0?
 

3cd4her

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Yes it''s AGS 0 so I don''t think the pavilion would be bad. Maybe it''s 40.5 or 40.4, but it''s blurry. HCA still scores it well with the pavilion I provided?
 

Ellen

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Date: 2/2/2009 7:20:33 PM
Author: 3cd4her
Yes it's AGS 0 so I don't think the pavilion would be bad. Maybe it's 40.5 or 40.4, but it's blurry. HCA still scores it well with the pavilion I provided?
Look where the x is, nowhere near AGS territory.
One should look not only at the numerical score, but also where the x lands.

It might be fine, but I can't say personally what I think without the correct pavilion angle. All AGS0 are not created equal.
 

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I believe it looks like 40.8, not 40, but is smudged.
ask them to confirm the pavilon angle value
ask for an IS pic.

#2 is old style report. Would need an IS pic on that one.

put them on hold while you gather info. If you can only put one on hold at a time, I would hold #1 if within budget (and if pa is indeed 40.8)
 

Lorelei

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Date: 2/3/2009 1:14:19 AM
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I believe it looks like 40.8, not 40, but is smudged.
ask them to confirm the pavilon angle value
ask for an IS pic.

#2 is old style report. Would need an IS pic on that one.

put them on hold while you gather info. If you can only put one on hold at a time, I would hold #1 if within budget (and if pa is indeed 40.8)
Ditto
 

Lorelei

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Date: 2/3/2009 9:06:56 AM
Author: John Pollard
When no culet is present a 43% pavilion depth = 40.8 PA.
I thank thee again!
 

3cd4her

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Thanks all, I was worried there for a minute about that pavilion. It is in fact a 40.8 pavilion and falls right in the AGS territory at a 1.2 HCA. I should have an ideal scope image and some more information to post soon so I''m looking forward to your opinions! I''m excited too because it looks like even though it''s not marked as a H&A it might have some decent arrows and symmetry. I would be happy with a low end H&A or just the look of the arrows, because that''s all you see anyway. Thanks again!
 

Lorelei

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Date: 2/3/2009 10:49:06 PM
Author: 3cd4her
Thanks all, I was worried there for a minute about that pavilion. It is in fact a 40.8 pavilion and falls right in the AGS territory at a 1.2 HCA. I should have an ideal scope image and some more information to post soon so I''m looking forward to your opinions! I''m excited too because it looks like even though it''s not marked as a H&A it might have some decent arrows and symmetry. I would be happy with a low end H&A or just the look of the arrows, because that''s all you see anyway. Thanks again!
No worries!!
 

Ellen

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Date: 2/3/2009 10:49:06 PM
Author: 3cd4her
Thanks all, I was worried there for a minute about that pavilion. It is in fact a 40.8 pavilion and falls right in the AGS territory at a 1.2 HCA. I should have an ideal scope image and some more information to post soon so I'm looking forward to your opinions! I'm excited too because it looks like even though it's not marked as a H&A it might have some decent arrows and symmetry. I would be happy with a low end H&A or just the look of the arrows, because that's all you see anyway. Thanks again!
Good deal, those are fantastic numbers. We'll be looking forward to your other info, but I predict it will pass with flying colors.




*waves to John*
 

Lorelei

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Date: 2/4/2009 9:16:34 AM
Author: John Pollard

Date: 2/4/2009 7:38:49 AM
Author: Ellen

*waves to John*
*Waves back. Forgets car keys are in hand. Picks up keys.*
Good thing it wasn''t a soda....
 

3cd4her

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I think we have a winner? It looks pretty amazing, but looking for your opinions.
 

3cd4her

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Thoughts on clarity? It seems somewhat hard to tell at magnification so I would think it is pretty eye clean.

DI40X_AGS8659506.jpg
 

swingirl

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I think it''s quite nice. If you can''t see the inclusions at this magnification you probably won''t when it''s set.
 

Kaleigh

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Looks clean to me.
 

3cd4her

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It sure does look amazing, thanks. Just out of curiosity I see that the asset scope shows either very dark blue or black for the arrows and black isn''t necessarily a good thing. Could it just be that the picture is just a little off?
 

JulieN

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I don''t understand why the link is to James Allen, but the pictures are from Whiteflash?
 

3cd4her

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The diamond was listed by several vendors on the PS diamond search. I had been working w/ WF, but found that JA supplied a little more information on their site for this particular diamond(which was the reason for that link).
 

JulieN

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Date: 2/5/2009 1:49:45 AM
Author: 3cd4her
The diamond was listed by several vendors on the PS diamond search. I had been working w/ WF, but found that JA supplied a little more information on their site for this particular diamond(which was the reason for that link).
So you had WF call it in, they took pictures for you, and now you''re working on the same stone with JA?

It looks like there''s some minor painting in the stone. PS vendors who have carried painted stones have all stopped carrying them. Perhaps they were tired of explaining painting to consumers?
 

3cd4her

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No I'm working with WF. I have heard and know I've read briefly about painting, but what should I be aware of with this? Is it still a good diamond?
 

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Date: 2/5/2009 2:50:40 AM
Author: 3cd4her
No I''m working with WF. I have heard and know I''ve read briefly about painting, but what should I be aware of with this? Is it still a good diamond?
not enough painting to worry about and I''m one of the ones that dislikes painting.
 
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