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Gloria123

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Need your expert opinions please! Thoughts on a 2.6 G SI2 EX/EX/EX

around $26k (AUD)

Let me know if you need additional info!
 
Link? Idealscope images?
 
IMG_1691.PNG Not sure if this is what you're after. It's a bit blurry too.
 
Once you locate the diamond's specs, I'd run it through the HCA tool:

https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca

You'll need the crown and pavilion ANGLES not percentages. If you only have % then change it on the tool with the drop down menu.

You're looking for anything less than 2. Preferably between 1 & 2.
 
Yes, those are the specs! Based on those numbers, I'd pass. If you give us your budget and 4c wishes, we can help you find something that will perform much better (I'll leave that to the experts here).

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lalala said:
Once you locate the diamond's specs, I'd run it through the HCA tool:

https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca

You'll need the crown and pavilion ANGLES not percentages. If you only have % then change it on the tool with the drop down menu.

You're looking for anything less than 2. Preferably between 1 & 2.
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Haha I got a 4.8
Total Visual Performance 4.8 - Good - Only if price is your main criterion
I'll take that as not a good sign?
 
Gloria123 said:
Haha I got a 4.8
Total Visual Performance 4.8 - Good - Only if price is your main criterion
I'll take that as not a good sign?
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Correct, lol. If you share your wants and budget we'll help you find something :halo:
 
lalala said:
Yes, those are the specs! Based on those numbers, I'd pass. If you give us your budget and 4c wishes, we can help you find something that will perform much better (I'll leave that to the experts here).

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Thanks for your help. I have another stone I'm just checking if its still available and requested the report.

Its a 2.55 F EX/EX/EX SI 2 which is around the same price $26.5k (AUD)
 
lalala said:
Correct, lol. If you share your wants and budget we'll help you find something :halo:
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Ideally would love over 2cts (yes I know size shouldn't be my main motivator). Love colourless but will go to a G. Having seen all the stones in person happy to consider a lower clarify depending on where the inclusions are. Budget would be under 30k including the ring setting which I have been quoted around 2.5k for so stone in itself say around $27.5k
 
I know some of the experts will chime in tomorrow, just make sure you share specs (table, depth, crown, pavilion) and images, that will help everyone guide you.
 
Gloria123 said:
Ideally would love over 2cts (yes I know size shouldn't be my main motivator). Love colourless but will go to a G. Having seen all the stones in person happy to consider a lower clarify depending on where the inclusions are. Budget would be under 30k including the ring setting which I have been quoted around 2.5k for so stone in itself say around $27.5k
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Are you opposed to purchasing online? Are you in the US?
 
Whith a super ideal cut, they will appear much whiter than other cuts, keep that in mind:

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3763420.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3639112.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3751764.htm

https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD8692

Whiteflash offers an upgrade policy where you only have to spend $1 more than your original diamond price.

High Performance Diamonds offers the same upgrade policy as WF and they will also buy back your diamond for 80% of what you paid FOR LIFE. They sell Crafted By Infinity diamonds but they are located in the US. There might be a dealer located in AUS.

There are several members from Australia that can help too! I'm not sure what other fees you have to consider but I know they can add up.
 
lalala said:
Whith a super ideal cut, they will appear much whiter than other cuts, keep that in mind:

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3763420.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3639112.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3751764.htm

https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD8692

Whiteflash offers an upgrade policy where you only have to spend $1 more than your original diamond price.

High Performance Diamonds offers the same upgrade policy as WF and they will also buy back your diamond for 80% of what you paid FOR LIFE. They sell Crafted By Infinity diamonds but they are located in the US. There might be a dealer located in AUS.

There are several members from Australia that can help too! I'm not sure what other fees you have to consider but I know they can add up.
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It's not an upgrade but thanks for all your help!
 
These are measurements to help you stay in ideal cut territory with a GIA excellent cut stone. For a local jeweler, tell them you only want stones that are within these ranges:
table: 52-57.5 (but I really prefer under 57)
depth: 60-62.3 {consider 59.5)
crown angle: 34-35.0 (up to 35.5 crown angle can sometimes work with a 40.6 pav angle)
pavilion angle: 40.6-40.9 (sometimes 41.0 if the crown angle is close to 34)

Then, run those four numbers through the HCA tool and reject anything greater than 2.0 (1.0 not better than 1.9, this is used to simply reject stones). But, if you like 60/60 stones, this tool has some limitations, its requires more of an visual assessment and the IS/ASET.

Anything left, that meets your clarity and color needs is worthy of requesting images IS/ASET. But, if you look at super-ideal stones (WF ACA, Brian Gavin Select, GoodOldGold, HighPerformanceDiamonds, etc.), just look at the images and ignore the above process.
 
Once they find stones within the criteria and pass the HCA tool, post the GIA or AGS certification number here. You really need a photos and or video. Also, request and ASET image or Idealscope (IS) image.
 
Gloria123 said:
Need your expert opinions please! Thoughts on a 2.6 G SI2 EX/EX/EX

around $26k (AUD)

Let me know if you need additional info!
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Don't look good. big table + flat top + deep bottom half = :knockout:
 
Gloria123 said:
It's not an upgrade but thanks for all your help!
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I think what lalala name was that of you ever decided to upgrade in the future, these vendors offer very generous terms. I don't think there are many jewellers in Aus that would offer anything comparable.
 
rockysalamander said:
These are measurements to help you stay in ideal cut territory with a GIA excellent cut stone. For a local jeweler, tell them you only want stones that are within these ranges:
table: 52-57.5 (but I really prefer under 57)
depth: 60-62.3 {consider 59.5)
crown angle: 34-35.0 (up to 35.5 crown angle can sometimes work with a 40.6 pav angle)
pavilion angle: 40.6-40.9 (sometimes 41.0 if the crown angle is close to 34)

Then, run those four numbers through the HCA tool and reject anything greater than 2.0 (1.0 not better than 1.9, this is used to simply reject stones). But, if you like 60/60 stones, this tool has some limitations, its requires more of an visual assessment and the IS/ASET.

Anything left, that meets your clarity and color needs is worthy of requesting images IS/ASET. But, if you look at super-ideal stones (WF ACA, Brian Gavin Select, GoodOldGold, HighPerformanceDiamonds, etc.), just look at the images and ignore the above process.
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Thank you! Have another appointment next week so will pass along these requirements.
 
srke said:
I think what lalala name was that of you ever decided to upgrade in the future, these vendors offer very generous terms. I don't think there are many jewellers in Aus that would offer anything comparable.
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No I've never heard of it. I don't think I could ever upgrade (I'm too sentimental) so am trying to get it right the first time!
 
metall said:
Not an expert like others here but that's a big table for a shallow stone..though I wonder if it would qualify as a 60/60 stone....

The video never loaded on my browser so I'm going by numbers alone here.
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I also can't see the video (tried 3 browsers), but the picture tells you this is a large table. It would likely get AGSL ideal/excellent. Its not quite a traditional 60/60 nor a modern "ideal". With these numbers I'd assume you would have less fire than white light (wide table, low CA). It could be quite nice or not, its hard to tell without a video and IS/ASET. It is very clean and very white.

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rockysalamander said:
I also can't see the video (tried 3 browsers), but the picture tells you this is a large table. It would likely get AGSL ideal/excellent. Its not quite a traditional 60/60 nor a modern "ideal". With these numbers I'd assume you would have less fire than white light (wide table, low CA). It could be quite nice or not, its hard to tell without a video and IS/ASET. It is very clean and very white.

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Thank you both. I'm going to see it on Friday so can see what its like in person.
 
Keep us posted...
 
So I may have confused the situation myself, I was under the impression I would be able to view the diamonds in person but they don't have them in stock, everything is online. I went through the pics, videos, ideal scope images etc. of the diamonds that are for sale. I ran a few through the HCA tool and they came back with good results however I would now be looking at around 2.1, 2.2 for $30k AUD which is a bit disappointing as I thought I would be able to get something a bit bigger, however for the right stone I will go down in size. I have one final appointment with the gemmologist I started off with and she has one diamond to show me, depending on that I'm thinking I will go with either of these two (if still available!):

http://www.diamondexchange.com.au/diamond-details/?stock=DX033275146349

http://www.diamondexchange.com.au/diamond-details/?stock=DX055182804413
 
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