Opinion on diamond for engagement ring

[OZDoc]

Hi,

I have been looking for an engagement ring, budget 5000-6000 USD for stone. Looking for a round eye clean 1 carat to go in a 18K white gold single stone ring.

I’m from Australia and local jewellers have a big mark up from those I’ve visited.

I’ve found an Australian shop on the other side of the country who’s prices seem pretty inline with james Allen and blue Nile (need to add 15% onto their price for import tax and duty) and have a good return policy. Down side is they don’t have videos like james Allen etc.

It’s a GIA certified 1.02 carat, E colour, SI2 with excellent cut/polish/symmetry but medium blue fluorescence. Photos, idea scope and cut report are viewable below. The jeweller tells me it is eye clean, but I haven’t seen it in person.

It’s $5600 USD.

Very new to this, any and all thoughts would be highly appreciated!

https://www2.jogiadiamonds.com.au/diamonds/diamonditem.php?code=SS3180

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I don't love the cut on that stone, and I definitely wouldn't consider it because of the clarity. Besides what is plotted on the stone diagram, it says under comments "additional clouds, pinpoints, and surface graining not shown", which means there is a possibility that light return could be affected by the clarity. Low clarity and fluorescence together sometimes isn't a good thing, either, because the stone could look more hazy in certain lighting.

I recommend you look for stones within the measurements below, and stay with SI1 or VS2. Even some SI1's have visible inclusions, so someone needs to examine the stone for you to tell you if it is 100% eye clean.

These are measurements to help you stay in ideal cut territory with a GIA excellent cut stone.

table: 54-58

depth: 60-62.3

crown angle: 34-35.0 (up to 35.5 crown angle can sometimes work with a 40.6 pav angle)

pavilion angle: 40.6-40.9 (sometimes 41.0 if the crown angle is close to 34)

 

[bmfang]

Not a particularly good stone IMHO. Massive clouds are the the primary clarity grading factor but it’s the salt and pepper like crystals in parts of the stone that aren’t rocking my boat. The IS looks ok, but this is more of a 60/60 stone with a very shallow CA that to my understanding is likely to provide more white light return rather than fire.

The spec ranges that @diamondseeker2006 has posted above are much more likely to get you a stone that balances white light return with fire. The 80% LGF means your pavilion mains are skinnier and that will mean smaller flashes of scintillation than a stone with a lower LGF percentage will give you (lower LGF percentage will give you bigger pavilion mains that will help drive light return and flashes of scintillation rather than highe LGF).

OP, are you open to buying from OS and paying the necessary Aussie duties upon importation?

 

[Matthews1127]

I agree with all above. You can do better within your budget, starting at SI1 clarity. If you are willing to drop in color, you will expand your options.
We can help you, if you’re willing to deal online, and paying Aussie duties.

 

[TreeScientist]

I also agree that this particular stone has a lot of red flags.

With your budget, you may want to stay slightly below 1 carat. You could get a much better stone in the .9 carat range, and it would only be around .2 mm smaller than an equilivant 1 carat stone. Also, a G color would save you money over a D-F stone, and it would look practically the same. G is perfectly fine in a stone that size, unless there's a cultural reason for the high color.

 

[OZDoc]

Hey guys, thanks for all the advice - looks like this isn't a good stone then!
I'm definitely willing to buy online, just need to add +15% for tax/duties. The reason I was looking at Jogia is they have a good exchange/return if you aren't happy with the stone when you receive it and had good reviews online.

No cultural reason for colour. I will adjust to .90 to 1, G, SI1

Any thoughts on these?

James allen stone:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3460704 - .92 carat G SI1 with excellent cut that fits most of the measurement guide given by @diamondseeker2006
comes to just under 5k USD (including all tax/duties)

Another Jogia
0.92ct G VS2 no fluoresecence excellent cut/polish/symmetry
Measurements: 6.18x6.21x3.87 Table: 56% Depth: 62.5% crown angle 35.0 pav angle 40.8
movie - http://hdfiles.in/hd.aspx?stoneid=1825990050
GIA cert - https://www2.jogiadiamonds.com.au/images/certs/J10504683.pdf
$5400 USD (including all tax/duties)

Thanks again!

 

[TreeScientist]

Maybe a little smaller than you're looking for, but this is a really beautiful stone! Faces up fairly large for it's size too:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...f-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4445728

 

[rockysalamander]

Have a look at JannPaul in Singapore. They are a superideal vendor...if buYong from Singapore is better than US. Also, Gary Halloway has a store in Australia (inventor of the HCA tool).

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Hey guys, thanks for all the advice - looks like this isn't a good stone then!
I'm definitely willing to buy online, just need to add +15% for tax/duties. The reason I was looking at Jogia is they have a good exchange/return if you aren't happy with the stone when you receive it and had good reviews online.

No cultural reason for colour. I will adjust to .90 to 1, G, SI1

Any thoughts on these?

James allen stone:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3460704 - .92 carat G SI1 with excellent cut that fits most of the measurement guide given by @diamondseeker2006
comes to just under 5k USD (including all tax/duties)

Another Jogia
0.92ct G VS2 no fluoresecence excellent cut/polish/symmetry
Measurements: 6.18x6.21x3.87 Table: 56% Depth: 62.5% crown angle 35.0 pav angle 40.8
movie - http://hdfiles.in/hd.aspx?stoneid=1825990050
GIA cert - https://www2.jogiadiamonds.com.au/images/certs/J10504683.pdf
$5400 USD (including all tax/duties)

Thanks again!

James Allen stone, no, too many black inclusions

Jogia .92 G VS2 Much better and worth keeping on the list

 

[the_mother_thing]

Perhaps someone else can/will chime in, but if you’re in Australia, maybe also check with Holloway Diamonds to see what they might have and/or be able to get. I admittedly don’t know how buying works within Australia and if you have different provinces/states where the tax is just as high from one to another as if you were to import, but just a thought. I would trust his/his associates judgement, and @Garry H (Cut Nut) knows a thing or two about diamonds.

https://www.diamond-cut.com.au/index.html

https://www.hollowaydiamonds.com.au/

 

[bmfang]

Perhaps someone else can/will chime in, but if you’re in Australia, maybe also check with Holloway Diamonds to see what they might have and/or be able to get. I admittedly don’t know how buying works within Australia and if you have different provinces/states where the tax is just as high from one to another as if you were to import, but just a thought. I would trust his/his associates judgement, and @Garry H (Cut Nut) knows a thing or two about diamonds.

https://www.diamond-cut.com.au/index.html

https://www.hollowaydiamonds.com.au/

Thankfully here in the land down under (as that old Men at Work song described our fair land), we don’t have state based sales taxes anymore. Only just a 10% goods and services tax and no duties on the importation of a loose diamond but a 5% duty on finished jewellery from the USA under the AUS-USA FTA. And some minor government importation charges that are imposed by the Federal Government. On my experience, that adds just a smidgen over 15% to the list/wire price. It still usually works out cheaper that way than buying from a local vendor (even one that sells hella beautiful stones like Holloway Diamonds).

@OZDoc , the second stone from Jogia is a lot better though main concern for me is what is the actual crown angle rather than the rounded 35 degree CA given on the GIA report (it could be anywhere from 34.76 to 35.24 degrees; the closer to 34.8 the better in my books). There is really only one black crystal under the table but at standard viewing distances (the length of a 30cm ruler), you are unlikely to be able to notice it. The location of the crystal within the body also is well placed as face up it appears to show up within a pavilion main/arrow contrast pattern.

are you also looking for a super ideal cut stone or would a regular GIA triple excellent that meets the PS community’s standards be sufficient?

@rockysalamander has made a good suggestion re: JannPaul from Singapore for super ideal stones though you would want to cross check their prices against the US super ideal vendors and against comparable stones at James Allen, Blue Nile, etc.

 

[OZDoc]

As mention by bmfang, fortunately no interstate taxes just duty/tax for import to the county.

A few recommendations for halloway I will have another look at their selection, came across them before but didn’t realise they were so reputable. Will check out JannPaul too thanks @rockysalamander

@TreeScientist
Very nice looking stone! If only it were slightly larger, will definitely keep it on the list though thanks.

@bmfang
A regular GIA triple excellent that PS was happy with would definitely be sufficient!

 

[OZDoc]

Few more stones I’ve found that match @diamondseeker2006 cut guide.
Appreciate any thoughts!

http://hdfiles.in/hd.aspx?stoneid=9826020399
https://www2.jogiadiamonds.com.au/images/certs/J10505215.pdf
4.8k USD


http://diamonds.kirangems.com/GemKOnline/DiaSearch/appVideo.jsp?idv=7278861244
https://www2.jogiadiamonds.com.au/images/certs/J10364072.pdf
5.2k USD


https://segoma.com/v.aspx?type=inner&id=L5UIBOPTRO
https://www2.jogiadiamonds.com.au/images/certs/J10507360.pdf
5.3k USD

 

[rockysalamander]

Few more stones I’ve found that match @diamondseeker2006 cut guide.
Appreciate any thoughts!

http://hdfiles.in/hd.aspx?stoneid=9826020399
https://www2.jogiadiamonds.com.au/images/certs/J10505215.pdf
4.8k USD


http://diamonds.kirangems.com/GemKOnline/DiaSearch/appVideo.jsp?idv=7278861244
https://www2.jogiadiamonds.com.au/images/certs/J10364072.pdf
5.2k USD


https://segoma.com/v.aspx?type=inner&id=L5UIBOPTRO
https://www2.jogiadiamonds.com.au/images/certs/J10507360.pdf
5.3k USD

Of these, I prefer 1 and 2 (in that order). They have a smaller table which will provide more fire and a better profile. I edge #1 higher due to the presence of grade-setting clouds in #3...and being bigger and less expensive.

 

[OZDoc]

Of these, I prefer 1 and 2 (in that order). They have a smaller table which will provide more fire and a better profile. I edge #1 higher due to the presence of grade-setting clouds in #3...and being bigger and less expensive.

Thanks, I think of those #1 is my favourite when just looking at the stone and ignoring price as well.

Here are some I've found looking on James Allen for comparison with a similar price spread:
I think I am leaning towards closer to .90 and a nicer cut.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4670862
.90 G SI1 triple excellent - table 56 depth 62.3 crown angle 35.5 pav angle 40.6
Price (inc tax) AU6373 USD 4715

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...f-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4717308
.90 F SI1 triple excellent - table 57 depth 60.4 crown angle 34.0 pav angle 40.6
Price (inc tax) USD 4738

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...h-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4613767
0.90 CARAT H-VS2 EXCELLENT CUT - table 54 depth 61.6 crown angle 34.5 pav angle 40.8
Price (inc tax) USD 5173

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...h-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4624739
0.96 CARAT H-SI1 EXCELLENT CUT - table 56 depth 60.6 crown angle 34 pav angle 40.6
Price (inc tax) USD 5290

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...h-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4724871
0.90 CARAT H-VS2 EXCELLENT CUT - table 58 depth 61.9 crown angle 35 pav angle 40.6
Price (inc tax) USD 5382

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4379349
0.96 CARAT G-SI1 EXCELLENT CUT - table 57 depth 62.5 crown angle 35.5 pav angle 41
Price (inc tax) USD 5405

 

[rockysalamander]

JA diamonds move fast. So, put on hold your top 3 and request and IS (idealscope). They may not have access for every stone.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4670862
.90 G SI1 triple excellent - table 56 depth 62.3 crown angle 35.5 pav angle 40.6
Price (inc tax) AU6373 USD 4715. Inclusions too visible to me. You have better options.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...f-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4717308
.90 F SI1 triple excellent - table 57 depth 60.4 crown angle 34.0 pav angle 40.6
Price (inc tax) USD 4738. Good angles. The cloud on the GIA gives me pause unless the JA gemologist and assure you that it is not causing any impact.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...h-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4613767
0.90 CARAT H-VS2 EXCELLENT CUT - table 54 depth 61.6 crown angle 34.5 pav angle 40.8
Price (inc tax) USD 5173. Swoon. I adore that 54 table. It gives the stone such a great side view. My fav for proportions of these, but I'd love to see an IS image.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...h-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4624739
0.96 CARAT H-SI1 EXCELLENT CUT - table 56 depth 60.6 crown angle 34 pav angle 40.6
Price (inc tax) USD 5290. Don't like the central inclusion.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...h-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4724871
0.90 CARAT H-VS2 EXCELLENT CUT - table 58 depth 61.9 crown angle 35 pav angle 40.6
Price (inc tax) USD 5382. Without a clarity plot, I'd say no due to the knot.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4379349
0.96 CARAT G-SI1 EXCELLENT CUT - table 57 depth 62.5 crown angle 35.5 pav angle 41
Price (inc tax) USD 5405. Don't like the central inclusion.

 

[OZDoc]

JA diamonds move fast. So, put on hold your top 3 and request and IS (idealscope). They may not have access for every stone.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...f-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4717308
.90 F SI1 triple excellent - table 57 depth 60.4 crown angle 34.0 pav angle 40.6
Price (inc tax) USD 4738. Good angles. The cloud on the GIA gives me pause unless the JA gemologist and assure you that it is not causing any impact.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...h-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4613767
0.90 CARAT H-VS2 EXCELLENT CUT - table 54 depth 61.6 crown angle 34.5 pav angle 40.8
Price (inc tax) USD 5173. Swoon. I adore that 54 table. It gives the stone such a great side view. My fav for proportions of these, but I'd love to see an IS image.

For the .90 with the 54 table unfortunately no IS image available - should this steer me away?

For the .90 with cloud the gemologist states it may appear cloudy and no IS available either so I guess that ones off the table too.

Learning a lot thanks for your help!

Also found this stone on JA:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4525768
0.90 CARAT G-VS1 EXCELLENT CUT - table 56 depth 62.3 crown angle 35 pav angle 40.8
Price 6150 USD
Gemologist tells me it is eye clean and the cloud on GIA won't impact.
IS available.

 

[rockysalamander]

For the .90 with the 54 table unfortunately no IS image available - should this steer me away?

For me, not yet. I'd keep it on hold until you have a few solid options.

At this price and size, you can look at super-ideals. Slightly above budget, but a bit bigger and very nice eye-clean option. {look at wire price}
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3934801.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3520058.htm

In budget and eyeclean.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3917005.htm

 

[OZDoc]

For me, not yet. I'd keep it on hold until you have a few solid options.

At this price and size, you can look at super-ideals. Slightly above budget, but a bit bigger and very nice eye-clean option. {look at wire price}
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3934801.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3520058.htm

In budget and eyeclean.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3917005.htm

Thanks, very nice stones! A little above the budget but not out of the question. Original budget of 5-6K USD was from a shop inside Australia, stones ordered internationally attract 15% duty/tax when arriving so I need to take that into account.

I found another JA stone
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4525768
0.90 CARAT G-VS1 EXCELLENT CUT ROUND DIAMOND - HCA 1.6
HCA 1.6, awaiting an IS image.
The GIA cert does list cloud which JA tell me won't be visually significant.
Does being sourced from Canada impact hte price at all?

 

[OZDoc]

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3964549.htm

Also very much like this slightly smaller stone from WF.

 

[Lorelei]

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3964549.htm

Also very much like this slightly smaller stone from WF.

Hi OzDoc,

I'm also glad you passed on the original diamond, the clarity making cloud was a big one and might have caused issues!

This diamond looks great, although it does have a grade making cloud listed towards the bottom, you can be sure if it's an ACA it's not going to have any negative impact on the diamond. Just make sure it's eye clean to your specifications ( WF will discuss the diamond with it in hand with you) and you should be good to go.

My Glitter Fairy ( Rocky) has found some corkers as usual so you can definitely consider her selections.

 

[Lorelei]

Thanks, very nice stones! A little above the budget but not out of the question. Original budget of 5-6K USD was from a shop inside Australia, stones ordered internationally attract 15% duty/tax when arriving so I need to take that into account.

I found another JA stone
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4525768
0.90 CARAT G-VS1 EXCELLENT CUT ROUND DIAMOND - HCA 1.6
HCA 1.6, awaiting an IS image.
The GIA cert does list cloud which JA tell me won't be visually significant.
Does being sourced from Canada impact hte price at all?

I prefer the WF diamond to this one, JA are probably right in VS clarity that the cloud shouldn't be anything to worry about, but post the IS image when you have it and we'll go from there.

 

[OZDoc]

I prefer the WF diamond to this one, JA are probably right in VS clarity that the cloud shouldn't be anything to worry about, but post the IS image when you have it and we'll go from there.

IS for that stone.


I think I've decided to go with a WF ACA, either:
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3929373.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3964549.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3520058.htm

Thanks for all the help! Will sleep on it then decide tomorrow.

 

[Lorelei]

IS for that stone.


I think I've decided to go with a WF ACA, either:
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3929373.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3964549.htm

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3520058.htm

Thanks for all the help! Will sleep on it then decide tomorrow.

Thanks for posting the IS, and you're welcome!

It's not the best IS image so I think your decision to go with an ACA is a very sound one. Let us know what you decide once you've slept on it, that's always a good idea with a purchase of this magnitude. If the SI clarity is eye clean to your specifications, those are three beautiful diamonds you have to choose from.

 

[rockysalamander]

Of the three you posted, I'd select this one.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3520058.htm

This is another option and the clean table (and slight size increase) appeals to me.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3934801.htm

Here are some settings that are very pretty.
https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...eek-line-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-422.htm (with pave diamonds; that pinch at the top will make the diamond look bigger and this is a nice all around setting).
https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...sleek-line-solitaire-engagement-ring-1022.htm {same as above, without pave}
https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...-solitaire-engagement-ring-by-vatche-1778.htm {closest replica to the Tiffany solitaire)
https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...ngle-shank-solitaire-engagement-ring-3811.htm {very pretty setting with a floral appearance from the top. This setting offers the girdle of the diamond a lot of protection}
Danhov Classico

 

[OZDoc]

Of the three you posted, I'd select this one.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3520058.htm

This is another option and the clean table (and slight size increase) appeals to me.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3934801.htm

Here are some settings that are very pretty.
https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...eek-line-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-422.htm (with pave diamonds; that pinch at the top will make the diamond look bigger and this is a nice all around setting).
https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...sleek-line-solitaire-engagement-ring-1022.htm {same as above, without pave}
https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...-solitaire-engagement-ring-by-vatche-1778.htm {closest replica to the Tiffany solitaire)
https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...ngle-shank-solitaire-engagement-ring-3811.htm {very pretty setting with a floral appearance from the top. This setting offers the girdle of the diamond a lot of protection}
Danhov Classico

I do very much like those 2 diamonds more, problem is they are right at the top of budget so there wouldn't be much left over for a setting. So it's either a nice diamond with a more basic setting or lesser diamond with a nice setting. She only wants a plain 6 prong white gold solitaire which does help.

 

[rockysalamander]

Could your budget swing this diamond with one of the WF setting I list below? This is a very well-priced diamond and the largest at around $5k USD
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3970298.htm ($6419AUD);

If no, then one of these two:
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3963050.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3964549.htm (you posted above)

WF Settings
https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...fany-style-solitaire-engagement-ring-1416.htm ($1057AUD;It has the "pinch" of the Legato, but it is a lot less. I'd just ask for claw-prongs. )

https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...ni-1rz7241-solitaire-engagement-ring-3992.htm (very pretty 4-prong. $678AUD}
https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...ni-1rz7231-solitaire-engagement-ring-3976.htm {another pretty 4-prong, it has a higher set stone which is not my preference}

Even better, you can get this very pretty setting from JA and have them send it to WF to set the diamond . It may be a pain to buy from two vendors...but at this price, this is really lovely setting.
https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...e-flower-solitaire-engagement-ring-item-50125

If the IS on this looks good, this might be a option from JA (put on hold if you want to pursue!). Not at the same level of precision as WF, but could be quite pretty.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4711462

 

[OZDoc]

Could your budget swing this diamond with one of the WF setting I list below? This is a very well-priced diamond and the largest at around $5k USD
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3970298.htm ($6419AUD);

WF Settings
https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...fany-style-solitaire-engagement-ring-1416.htm ($1057AUD;It has the "pinch" of the Legato, but it is a lot less. I'd just ask for claw-prongs. )

Even better, you can get this very pretty setting from JA and have them send it to WF to set the diamond . It may be a pain to buy from two vendors...but at this price, this is really lovely setting.
https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...e-flower-solitaire-engagement-ring-item-50125

If the IS on this looks good, this might be a option from JA (put on hold if you want to pursue!). Not at the same level of precision as WF, but could be quite pretty.
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...i-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-4711462

Love that 5k USD stone! I think that may be the one!
You’re amazing I spent hours looking and didn’t turn up either that or the 1 carat JA!

Do you think there is much difference between colour H and I? In the shops looking I can’t really seem to tell the difference, much more interested in a great cut for a nice sparkle.

Love that 6 prong solitaire setting from WF, that’s the one I had my eye on. The JA one is really nice too, I’m also of the preference of not getting a high set ring.

I do like the the JA one too, checked with them no IS available and has strong fluorescence which makes me hesitant.

 

[the_mother_thing]

If given the choice, I’d much rather have a nicer/larger diamond in a simple solitaire setting because you can always (later) upgrade the setting if/when the wearer decides AND funds allow.

 

[OZDoc]

If given the choice, I’d much rather have a nicer/larger diamond in a simple solitaire setting because you can always (later) upgrade the setting if/when the wearer decides AND funds allow.

My thoughts too, thanks for the input.