On the hunt for a round FIREBALL!

[MsP]

The Wishlist:
- cut is priority, I want something that will really shine
- VS2 or better or a lower grade but inclusions that could probably be hidden
- not opposed to warmer stone (I saw some on Frank Darling's site that were K and so warm)
- budget is $15k
- ideally 11mm-11.6mm

Background:
I ordered a cushion; I feel like it's just a little dead feeling. I'm not totally set to any particular cut-- but I do want a brilliant cut. It seems clear that rounds are easier to buy virtually. Hoping to order in a round to compare.

 

[musicloveranthony]

The Wishlist:
- cut is priority, I want something that will really shine
- VS2 or better or a lower grade but inclusions that could probably be hidden
- not opposed to warmer stone (I saw some on Frank Darling's site that were K and so warm)
- budget is $15k
- ideally 11mm-11.6mm

Background:
I ordered a cushion; I feel like it's just a little dead feeling. I'm not totally set to any particular cut-- but I do want a brilliant cut. It seems clear that rounds are easier to buy virtually. Hoping to order in a round to compare.

https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-di...rity-round-ideal-cut-lab-sku-p223568?a_aid=PS

probably the best you'll find in the price range

4.51 carat (ct) IGI Round Loose Diamond E Color VS1 Clarity Excellent Cut

www.b2cjewels.com

Lower price range - might be worth exploring. Doesn't have as much information (like advanced imaging) as the other stone does, but you could ask them to take images

 

[Kim N]

How about one of these?

5.43 Carat Round Lab Grown Diamond F Color VS1 Clarity Ideal Cut | Ritani

5.43 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut F Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG571308943

www.ritani.com

5.10 Carat Round Lab Grown Diamond F Color VS1 Clarity Ideal Cut | Ritani

5.1 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut F Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG573378868

www.ritani.com

 

[MsP]

How about one of these?

5.43 Carat Round Lab Grown Diamond F Color VS1 Clarity Ideal Cut | Ritani

5.43 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut F Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG571308943

www.ritani.com

5.10 Carat Round Lab Grown Diamond F Color VS1 Clarity Ideal Cut | Ritani

5.1 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut F Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG573378868

www.ritani.com

I'll check those out! What do you think about this? https://diamond-assets.ritani.com/GCAL-323200392/certificate.pdf

 

[Kim N]

I'll check those out! What do you think about this? https://diamond-assets.ritani.com/GCAL-323200392/certificate.pdf

It looks very nice!

 

[musicloveranthony]

I'll check those out! What do you think about this? https://diamond-assets.ritani.com/GCAL-323200392/certificate.pdf

Looks awesome

 

[MsP]

Looks awesome

That's what I'm thinking too.

 

[MsP]

@Kim N and @musicloveranthony (and others!!) in looking at this https://www.gcalusa.com/c/323200392 I see lots of striation/graining on that 4.5ct. The way you can control the GCAL video make it SO MUCH EASIER to look at a diamond. What do you folks think? Is it a skip due to striations?

 

[Kim N]

@Kim N and @musicloveranthony (and others!!) in looking at this https://www.gcalusa.com/c/323200392 I see lots of striation/graining on that 4.5ct. The way you can control the GCAL video make it SO MUCH EASIER to look at a diamond. What do you folks think? Is it a skip due to striations?

It does have a bit more than I'd want to see on a diamond for myself, but it's not too bad.

 

[MsP]

It does have a bit more than I'd want to see on a diamond for myself, but it's not too bad.

I'm wondering if finding a HPHT is the best option. I DO think that the light return and symmetry would be way better than the cushion. HPHT in 4+ ct seems not as prevalent.

 

[Kim N]

I'm wondering if finding a HPHT is the best option. I DO think that the light return and symmetry would be way better than the cushion. HPHT in 4+ ct seems not as prevalent.

4.54 Carat Round Lab Diamond IGI LG569308462 | Ritani

4.54 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut E Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG569308462

www.ritani.com

5.03 Carat Round Lab Diamond IGI LG570376464 | Ritani

5.03 Carat Round Lab Diamond ID Cut E Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG570376464

www.ritani.com

 

[Txborn79]

Not sure if you want to stick with Ritani but Dreamstone has a lot of Hpht over 4ct https://dreamstone.com/loose-diamon...t_min=4.50&clarity_id=VS2,VS1,VVS2,VVS1,IF,FL

 

[MsP]

Not sure if you want to stick with Ritani but Dreamstone has a lot of Hpht over 4ct https://dreamstone.com/loose-diamonds/search?v=g&natural=lab&shape_id=Round&carat_min=4.50&clarity_id=VS2,VS1,VVS2,VVS1,IF,FL

I'd actually PREFER against Ritani! I'll take a look at these. Did any stick out as fantastic to you?

 

[Txborn79]

I'd actually PREFER against Ritani! I'll take a look at these. Did any stick out as fantastic to you?

Proportion wise, I really like this one with the smaller table/fatter arrows (just a personal preference) https://dreamstone.com/loose-diamon...clarity-DreamStone+Ideal-cut-530205756_L48D-2

This one looks good too

DreamStone Loose Diamonds | Ideal Cut Diamonds | Certified Diamonds | Diamond Engagement Rings - DreamStone

Shop diamond engagement rings, diamond stud earrings, diamond pendants, GIA diamonds online at dreamstone.com. DreamStone's comprehensive interactive education center will guide you through everything you need to know about diamonds.

dreamstone.com

 

[Kim N]

Proportion wise, I really like this one with the smaller table/fatter arrows (just a personal preference) https://dreamstone.com/loose-diamon...clarity-DreamStone+Ideal-cut-530205756_L48D-2

This one looks good too

DreamStone Loose Diamonds | Ideal Cut Diamonds | Certified Diamonds | Diamond Engagement Rings - DreamStone

Shop diamond engagement rings, diamond stud earrings, diamond pendants, GIA diamonds online at dreamstone.com. DreamStone's comprehensive interactive education center will guide you through everything you need to know about diamonds.

dreamstone.com

Yes to that 5.7! Gorgeous proportions and faceting.

The 5.4 has some blue nuance.

 

[Txborn79]

The 5.4 has some blue nuance.

Oops, forgot to watch the video. Don’t recommend that one

 

[Wink]

If you are looking for labgrowns with a GCAL report, stick to those for an 8X report to be sure you are getting the top cut you are looking for.

 

[MsP]

If you are looking for labgrowns with a GCAL report, stick to those for an 8X report to be sure you are getting the top cut you are looking for.

Hi Wink, can you elaborate? Are there sites that provide more advanced imaging? (on light return, etc.)

 

[MsP]

@Kim N @Txborn79
What do you think about this one?

DreamStone Loose Diamonds | Ideal Cut Diamonds | Certified Diamonds | Diamond Engagement Rings - DreamStone

Shop diamond engagement rings, diamond stud earrings, diamond pendants, GIA diamonds online at dreamstone.com. DreamStone's comprehensive interactive education center will guide you through everything you need to know about diamonds.

dreamstone.com

Loupe360

loupe360.com

 

[Wink]

Hi Wink, can you elaborate? Are there sites that provide more advanced imaging? (on light return, etc.)

For many years, those looking for the absolute best cuts relied on AGS grading reports. GIA has purchased AGS and will provide an AGS style report if requested.

Currently GCAL is issuing a great report with actual photos and detailed information about each diamond. Only a few will qualify for the 8X report.

Soon, IGI will be issuing their new cut quality report. Many of us in the trade expect it to be excellent.

These are interesting times, and I am not alone in wanting to see how the world of diamond buying will be changed for the better/worse for those seeking the best cut diamonds, both Lab and Earth grown.

 

[MsP]

@Kim N @Txborn79
What do you think about this one?

DreamStone Loose Diamonds | Ideal Cut Diamonds | Certified Diamonds | Diamond Engagement Rings - DreamStone

Shop diamond engagement rings, diamond stud earrings, diamond pendants, GIA diamonds online at dreamstone.com. DreamStone's comprehensive interactive education center will guide you through everything you need to know about diamonds.

dreamstone.com

Loupe360

loupe360.com

Ordered in this 5.63 and the 5.7 suggested in the thread above and the 5.7 had a bit of blue nuance with in-person inspection... everyone preferred the 5.63 so that's what we are going with!

 

[Txborn79]

Ordered in this 5.63 and the 5.7 suggested in the thread above and the 5.7 had a bit of blue nuance with in-person inspection... everyone preferred the 5.63 so that's what we are going with!

Ohhh, can’t wait to see what you think!

 

[momofive]

Great. Be sure to post photos!

 

[Kim N]

Ordered in this 5.63 and the 5.7 suggested in the thread above and the 5.7 had a bit of blue nuance with in-person inspection... everyone preferred the 5.63 so that's what we are going with!

Great update! How does the 5.63 perform in person in all your usual lighting environments?