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Mark Crisp

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I do a bit of alternative investment brokering and come across deals that need funding. Many are scams or hyped up.

Ok..I want to be 100% clear here i am not asking for investors. But here is my latest offer and i want you guys in the know to tell me if looks legitimate or there are some major flaws in it. If it is 100% not doable please say so.
One my first reading of this I thought "sounds far too good to be true..." Almost like one of those Nigerian 401k scam emails.

But I trust the source and all i ask potential investors is if they are interested and obviously it is within their means to get more information on the offer and perform their own D.D. on it. i.e run it by lawyers, experts, etc.

Thank you
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A fantastic opportunity has arisen for an investor to work with a reputed company and their lawyer, whilst experiencing high rates of return. I would like to take this chance to direct your attention to the following related to the monthly supply of 30,000 Carats of rough diamonds.

Overview:

The purpose of the funds is for the expansion of an existing successful supply chain management within the precious commodities division. The investment funds together with the company’s profits already realised will allow the company to increase existing monthly supply in New York by a further 30,000 (thirty thousand) Carats. The diamonds shall be sold to the company’s existing portfolio of exit buyers in New York, all of which are known to be capable of completing the transaction. The sales transaction shall be managed and conducted by corporate lawyers in New York who are extremely well known within the diamond industry.

· Total investment up to $2,000,000 (Minimum $500,000 tranche)

· Funds required for a maximum of ninety (90) days

· Commodity utilised as collateral

· Lloyds of London insurance policy

· High rates of return

· Funds and repayment managed through Attorney & Escrow

· Long-term supply and sales contracts already in place

The company is engaging in a “partnership” with investors and taking in to consideration it is important to the company that an investors effort is fairly rewarded as a partner.

The project shall create two revenue streams for the investor which when combined delivers an extremely lucrative opportunity:

a. First Month Fixed Return – Within the agreed ninety (90) days the company shall return to the investor the original funds pledged plus a fixed sixty percent (60%) return on investment. Based on an investment of $1,000,000 shall equate to a profit of $600,000 in ninety (90) days.

b. Monthly Returns – For the subsequent eleven (11) months of the contract the investor shall be rewarded with a monthly profit based on $5.00 (five USD) per Carat. The monthly delivery shall be 30,000 (thirty thousand) Carats which results in a profit for the investor of $150,000 (one hundred and fifty thousand USD) for a period of eleven (11) months, thus providing the investor by means of “profit through participation” a return of $1,650,000 (one million six hundred and fifty thousand USD) as an investment partner.

The company is therefore offering a total return on investment over the twelve (12) month duration of the project of $2,250,000 (based on an $1,000,000 investment). Further profit scenarios for $500,000 and $2,000,000 investments are available upon request.

While the company appreciates that for somebody unfamiliar with the precious commodity business such a transaction and returns may seem impossible. However, the supply chain management system created by the company is unrivalled within the diamond industry. There is a supply shortage of gem quality rough diamonds in New York making this a service highly sort after – The company is hence able to command the market in order to obtain the optimal sales price.

When designing the transaction as well as the financial arrangements for the investment the most important factor is for the company to protect the investors and their funds. In order to achieve this the company is providing the investor with total security by placing the following measures in place:

a. Management of Investment Funds – Funds are deposited by the investor to a corporate lawyer’s Escrow account who shall then control the distribution. This provides the investor with complete transparency as well as assurance that the funds are being used in accordance with the terms of the project.

b. Asset Collateral – The company has already secured title to the consignment of 30,000 carats and is legally permitted to export and sell the commodity. The title in the entire consignment shall be assigned to the investor until such time as the original investment funds and the first month’s profit have been paid in full to the investor (i.e. maximum ninety days).

c. Asset Insurance – The consignment is insured by the world-renowned Lloyds of London group for a value of $60,000,000 (sixty million USD) against theft or loss of any nature. The benefit in the insurance policy shall be assigned to the investor until such time as both the investment funds and the first month’s profit have been paid in full to the investor (i.e. maximum ninety days).

The collateral in the physical asset as well as the Lloyds insurance policy not only protects the investor but also eliminates risk in the project.



It is envisaged that project investment shall be facilitated between the company and the investor by means of a “working agreement” designed to protect both parties, which will guarantee both the return of invested funds as well as the total profit share.



A comprehensive compliance pack and direct introduction to the company’s CEO and corporate lawyer can be facilitated upon signing of a binding and operational NDA to protect our interest as introductory broker. We are keen to engage professional liquid investors looking to take advantage of this opportunity and would like to work with you and your network to see what can be facilitated.


Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have further questions at this stage
 
The terms they claim are ridiculous and meant only to sucker people in, 60 ROI within 90 days....right. Keep your money.
 
Ok...can you tell me why it is ridiculous? Are the numbers not possible? Is the whole process impossible? What makes it so "ridiculous"?

Thank you
 
No way. Just wait for the pros to post.
 
here is what one pro has said so far...which leads me to believe something isn't right. I will be surprised if this company are pushing such an offer if it does turn out to be "dodgy."
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On that, I can quite believe that there exist some
true underlying offer of diamonds. That is 6000
grams of diamonds or 6 kilograms, however, if any
mining company can produce 6 kilograms of diamonds
monthly, they do not need any funding, as that
would mean US $1800000 per month at least.

So the entity making an offer is probably not the
mining company, or but just somebody with the
idea.

Those people who really purchase diamonds, have
the money and do not involve anybody else.

If diamonds are in Europe, I know some companies
who would buy it right away whatever the quantity
is. But I do not like to be involved in those
businesses that are done by Internet, as so many
offers are fake.
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Yes. Anyone offering you are monthly ROI of 60% within a month is offering you a bridge in New York. That aside, they state the innovation here is based on a supply chain problem getting diamonds to New York. That is total and utter bull. There is no problem getting diamonds to NYC (or any other major or minor city).
 
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Talk to your financial planner, which you undoubtedly have since you like "alternative" "investments". Do what that person tells you to do.

F.P....you must be kidding me? Most only know about the funds/bonds they are paid to push.

Anyone how..nothing meaningful to add...keep out
 
F.P....you must be kidding me? Most only know about the funds/bonds they are paid to push.

Anyone how..nothing meaningful to add...keep out

Well, I think you should go balls in! Good luck! May luck be a lady for you and your alternative investments!!! Hell, you should do a million, why not!?!

*I am just a lady. My advice portends no success or failure and is just my opinion.
 
F.P....you must be kidding me? Most only know about the funds/bonds they are paid to push.

Anyone how..nothing meaningful to add...keep out

I don't know why my previous post got deleted. Was it because I put in an e-mail address? Or maybe I deleted it myself by accident?

Anyways, I'm very interested in this investment opportunity in specific and alternative investments in general. First question: Do you have a website where you list such opportunities? Second question: Is this onshore or an offshore alternative investment opportunidad? I've heard that offshore may be preferable for death and tax reasons. Third question: is the 500K a strict minimum or can it be divided up? Can for example, 10 price scopers pool together 50K each and invest together? Could some of the investment be in kind? Fourth question: if I have some really good top notch ideas that need investment of my own, can you help me find potential investors? What other forums do you use generally to solicit people?
 
Well, I think you should go balls in! Good luck! May luck be a lady for you and your alternative investments!!! Hell, you should do a million, why not!?!

*I am just a lady. My advice portends no success or failure and is just my opinion.

I don't know why you're not thanking OP for sharing with us such fantastic offers he has received. These returns are simply unbelievable, and I am quite astonished both by the scope of the offers but also by OP's willingness to share such offers with people he has never met before.
 
I don't know why you're not thanking OP for sharing with us such fantastic offers he has received. These returns are simply unbelievable, and I am quite astonished both by the scope of the offers but also by OP's willingness to share such offers with people he has never met before.

He said he wasn't looking for investors. It's probably too good of a deal to share.
 
I don't know why my previous post got deleted. Was it because I put in an e-mail address? Or maybe I deleted it myself by accident?

Anyways, I'm very interested in this investment opportunity in specific and alternative investments in general. First question: Do you have a website where you list such opportunities? Second question: Is this onshore or an offshore alternative investment opportunidad? I've heard that offshore may be preferable for death and tax reasons. Third question: is the 500K a strict minimum or can it be divided up? Can for example, 10 price scopers pool together 50K each and invest together? Could some of the investment be in kind? Fourth question: if I have some really good top notch ideas that need investment of my own, can you help me find potential investors? What other forums do you use generally to solicit people?

I think you misunderstood him. He only wants our opinions on if he should do this fantastic opportunity with high returns. :lol:
 
I think you misunderstood him. He only wants our opinions on if he should do this fantastic opportunity with high returns. :lol:

That would be very unfortunate if true. I, for one, would love the opportunity to meet the CEO and corporate lawyer of this firm. Given what he's said, they're bound to be people of great consequence, and I am sure they will have future investment schemes for which I would be very very much interested in even if I am ineligible for this particular one. As the saying goes, it's not what you know that matters...
 
By the way, Mark, our collective IQ'a add up to 100 and we all live in group homes, so maybe find a forum of legit smart people and ask them.

We don't have money. All of posts are fake.
 
My Golden Gate Bridge is for sale. I'll take $10 million or best offer.
 
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
I disappointed that any of the people in the actual diamond industry haven't spoken up, to explain why this scenario is rather unlikely. The things that come off the top of my head, is what was already said. OK. "There is a supply shortage of gem quality rough diamonds in New York making this a service highly sort after. Is this true? The major gem cutting areas are India and Antwerp, not NYC. I'm not sure which company, etc is wanting 30K of rough diamonds to cut.

2nd the funding/payment scheme seems nonsensical. The markup for diamonds is actually quite low, thanks to the internet. I don't know about rough, but that is an even more risky and unknown proposition than dealing with cut stones. You provide an initial amount (that doesn't even seem to cover the first month of diamonds, let alone subsequent months) but then every month 30K carats are still coming in. Not only are not you needing to put more money in you are getting paid some random $5 a carat? on top of 60% roi? And lastly, there are many rules for importing diamonds to the united states, particularly rough. If you don't dot your i's and cross your t's, you can be considered smuggling, avoiding the Kimberly process, breaking other laws and end up in federal prison. If you don't know the diamond business (and you obviously don't) it is not something to mess with. I am just a consumer. Hopefully the veteran members will pop in and correct me and explain why this is a bad idea.
 
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Because this is spam and isn't worth splaining....
 
60%. Nuff said.
 
Google the poster's name. NOTHING positive comes up. Ironically, there is a Mark Crisp who was convicted of murder in my tiny hometown.
 
I would like to take this chance to direct your attention to the following related to the monthly supply of 30,000 Carats of rough diamonds.
The investment funds together with the company’s profits already realised will allow the company to increase existing monthly supply in New York by a further 30,000 (thirty thousand) Carats.

Go for it OP!. NYC's diamond cutting industry will boom because of Trump's Made in America Program. The demand for rough diamonds will skyrocket. HURRY
 
It is to ridiculous to even reply to and why ruin the fun yall is having?
There are no legitimate paths to buy/sell rough diamonds at those margins.
There are no legitimate paths to even buy 30000cts a month and not be a large established player.
Lets say a buyer legitimately did want 30000cts why would they mess around with this and not buy at the auctions or set up a supply contract directly like everyone else?
The whole thing is just plain stupid.
 
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