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Brilyant

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Hi all!

I am still looking for a ring. I have the setting I want (a custom piece from WhiteFlash) but now I can''t find any diamonds in my price range/characteristics. This is VERY frustrating - seems like the holidays wiped the online dealers clean.

What I am looking for:

Round
0.83-0.90 carats (I prefer to get as close to 0.9 as I can)
D-G color (maybe H, but we looked at H diamonds next to G diamonds and there was a visible difference)
VS1-SI1 (must be eye clean)
Ideal cut (AGS 0,0,0) or H&A cut
Around $4000-4500

Is there anything left?!

Thanks guys!
 
You''re really close, and at 6 millimeters with this one...
 
Check out blue nile, (LD01255402).
 
Date: 1/28/2008 7:33:37 PM
Author: hay joe
Check out blue nile, (LD01255402).
Hay Joe,

Of coure, this one may be lovely, though it does say clouds not shown, so...rather than trust them...you might want to ask about its performance, and see what they say. Some nervous nelly''s don''t like to see clouds in SI stones. In this one, since I do see other shmutz, I''m guessing it''s not so much a problem
 
Thanks all!

Regular Guy, what do you mean by "and at 6 mm..."

Is that important?
 
Brilyant,

Everything's a potential arbitrary line in the sand.

1 carat? It's 6.5 millimeter.

my .9 carat was at like 6.15 milimeters.

.83? Why not .81.

6 millimeters' may not mean too much. It's just another possible measure to surpass.
 
Gee, you don''t ask for much in the size dept. do ya??
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Couldn''t find any that quite made it to .83.


Ira pulled a nice one, here''s another. Lil bit less expensive with no compromises.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3892/

And here''s one if you''d entertain an SI1, many can be totally eyeclean. The report''s not up on this one yet.

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-609773.htm#
 
Date: 1/28/2008 7:39:53 PM
Author: Regular Guy

...though it does say clouds not shown...
A friendly reminder Ira: The comment ''Clouds not shown'' means they are entirely non-factors, whereas ''Clarity grade based on clouds not shown'' bears further examination.
 
Date: 1/28/2008 8:29:45 PM
Author: JohnQuixote



Date: 1/28/2008 7:39:53 PM
Author: Regular Guy

...though it does say clouds not shown...
A friendly reminder Ira: The comment 'Clouds not shown' means they are entirely non-factors, whereas 'Clarity grade based on clouds not shown' bears further examination.
Hey, John, thanks for helping.

I'm sure you're saying this, but please let me confirm...and at your leisure...maybe you can find an example.

You're saying that when its determined that, as you say, it is primarily a cloud that sets the grade, the certificate...whether for GIA or AGS, says that, too?

Can you show an example?

Also...can you advise...when it's an SI stone...and it is apparently on the cert without "markings" otherwise, if it just says clouds not shown...I really do think you must apply this question to the diamond, whether or not it uses the language of "clouds setting the grade," don't you think? Let's allow...yes...especially when applying to a virtual stone.
 
Thank you all.

Does anyone know if I can purchase a diamond from GOG and have it sent to WF for a custom made setting?
 
Date: 1/29/2008 11:48:54 AM
Author: Brilyant
Thank you all.

Does anyone know if I can purchase a diamond from GOG and have it sent to WF for a custom made setting?
Yes you can. WF will charge you a mounting fee and will bear no responsibility for damage to the diamond though, so your own insurance for the new stone will come in handy here.
 
Date: 1/29/2008 12:02:00 PM
Author: Chrono


Date: 1/29/2008 11:48:54 AM
Author: Brilyant
Thank you all.

Does anyone know if I can purchase a diamond from GOG and have it sent to WF for a custom made setting?
Yes you can. WF will charge you a mounting fee and will bear no responsibility for damage to the diamond though, so your own insurance for the new stone will come in handy here.
Hi again Brilyant!

Just make sure to check that your insurance will cover your diamond while being set, as I have heard that some insurance companies may require different or separate coverage for unset diamonds, or while being mounted, best to check to be on the safe side.
 
Have you specifically asked a SA at WF to look for a diamond with these specs? Maybe they have access to diamonds that aren''t listed on their website, yet. When I was looking for mine, Traci told me about one that was being evaluated? or whatever and wasn''t in house, yet. I waited a week-ish for it and bought it. That would save you having to deal with two vendors and pay the extra shipping and setting fee.
 
Thanks, Lorelei.

HappyAnniversary, I am in contact with a sales person at WF and we are discussing this now. Seems like there may be a few diamonds, but I am not sure.
 
Date: 1/28/2008 7:39:53 PM
Author: Regular Guy
Some nervous nelly''s...
Talk about nervous nelly, there''s simply no way that WF would damage a GOG stone setting it. That would be one very carefully set stone.
 
Date: 1/29/2008 2:46:41 PM
Author: elmo


Talk about nervous nelly, there's simply no way that WF would damage a GOG stone setting it. That would be one very carefully set stone.
Maybe I am not understanding your post correctly... but I think you are saying that it's virtually impossible for a diamond to be chipped during setting? Weeeeeeeeell, it's not COMMON, thank goodness... but it does happen, despite the best of care. One of our PS vendors accidentally chipped one of their own stones during setting recently, right Spark?!
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Oh boy, I think I may have found one!!

0.88 G/VS2, AGS 0, right on the outskirts of my range!

Yay!
 
Date: 1/29/2008 4:39:35 PM
Author: Lynn B
Maybe I am not understanding your post correctly... but I think you are saying that it''s virtually impossible for a diamond to be chipped during setting? Weeeeeeeeell, it''s not COMMON, thank goodness... but it does happen, despite the best of care. One of our PS vendors accidentally chipped one of their own stones during setting recently, right Spark?!
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Why yes, Lynn ... Good memory.
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It was chipped and I felt like
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when I heard, however, this PS vendor did find me a replacement and still got the ring to me within the originally specified time frame ... Really nice recovery!

It doesn''t happen often but it does happen ... don''t chance it. Insure the stone.
 
Date: 1/29/2008 4:43:49 PM
Author: Brilyant
Oh boy, I think I may have found one!!

0.88 G/VS2, AGS 0, right on the outskirts of my range!

Yay!
YAY!
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Sounds like a good one.

If you have time to wait, Whiteflash should be getting in new stones shortly to replenish their depleted Christmas stock, I suspect
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so there should be a lot to choose from and maybe your "perfect, perfect" stone will be in that batch. Might be worth the wait.
 
Date: 1/29/2008 4:39:35 PM
Author: Lynn B
Maybe I am not understanding your post correctly...
Let me clarify. One PS vendor chipping another PS vendor''s stone without extenuating circumstances (say, an SI-2 going into a tension setting) would get the kind of visibility that nobody here wants.
 
Date: 1/29/2008 6:19:45 AM
Author: Regular Guy


Date: 1/28/2008 8:29:45 PM
Author: JohnQuixote





Date: 1/28/2008 7:39:53 PM
Author: Regular Guy

...though it does say clouds not shown...
A friendly reminder Ira: The comment 'Clouds not shown' means they are entirely non-factors, whereas 'Clarity grade based on clouds not shown' bears further examination.
Hey, John, thanks for helping.

I'm sure you're saying this, but please let me confirm...and at your leisure...maybe you can find an example.

You're saying that when its determined that, as you say, it is primarily a cloud that sets the grade, the certificate...whether for GIA or AGS, says that, too?

Can you show an example?

Also...can you advise...when it's an SI stone...and it is apparently on the cert without 'markings' otherwise, if it just says clouds not shown...I really do think you must apply this question to the diamond, whether or not it uses the language of 'clouds setting the grade,' don't you think? Let's allow...yes...especially when applying to a virtual stone.
I was hoping JohnQ might have sauntered by to clarify.

Earlier I scanned through the first 20 diamonds on the natural sort that comes from the default search in the search by cut..when you only constrain to a) SI2 options and b) excellent for cut (HCA 0 - 2).

Many options did not mention clouds at all. Many did though. None suggested that the cloud set the grade. It is possible, of course, that as contended, the occurrence of this is rare. I'm really just seeking to confirm, as contended, that it happens ever that when the grade is thought to be set by the cloud, that text on the cert specifies this.

On the "untargeted" set of stones that appear on that page (...not sure how John will produce a specimen otherwise...if it's from WF, how can he sell it...and if it's not, he may feel awkward/improper commenting on it; on this particular page, only one vendor appears anyway...which can be "unidentified")...the fifth from the bottom option renders this certificate, and the bottom renders this certificate.

Hopefully, through skullduggery, or some other means, other demonstrations of what a certificate would look like when the grading agency wants to specifically tell us that the grade is set by the clouds...but I'm guessing these two aren't half bad at demonstrating that very thing.
 
Like this?

clouds.jpg
 
Date: 1/29/2008 8:42:02 PM
Author: elmo
Like this?
Well...I guess that''s proof enough.

I just don''t recall having seen that.

Thanks, and regards to all.
 
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