Newbie shopping for Ruby for wife to be, need help

[Ashman]

Hi Everyone.

I am very new to the online world of shopping for a ruby engagement ring for my wife to be, I started with online research which turned me to bluenile and jamesallen. The wife to be fell in love with rubies and now wants a ruby engagement ring over a diamond ring. As I have tried to learn the most I can, it seems so much information it almost seems impossible to find a good ring with value and quality when it comes to rubies. To help illustrate my problems and frustration can anyone help me and offer advice on the 2 following example.

http://www.bluenile.com/oval-ruby-diamond-three-stone-ring-platinum_42744 goes for $24500

and this comparable ruby ring from james allen

http://www.jamesallen.com/preset-engagement-rings/designer-gemstone-rings/-18k-white-gold-3.21-red-item-39921 goes for $10770.

Both seem close in spec but way different in price. Why such a difference in price? I have noticed prices on Rubys seem to be all over the map.

Both places I called and neither confirm where the rubies come from, they both confirmed they are natural but neither confirms what has been done to them. Both places also confirmed they don't offer anything but estimates with the rings, no reports from any labs, but my online research suggests you should always ask which country the rubies come from and all should come with papers from a lab?

Sorry in advance for the experts for asking for help, but I got a heart broken girl who has become so frustrated shopping for rubies I don't know what to do anymore. Anyway advice would be of great help.

 

[Niel]

If i was going to drop that much on a ruby ( i wish i could!) i would buy one with a certificate to tell me what they treated it with, if anything.

I also would probably want it loose, as i would want to be able to have more say in the setting.

I would imagine if your budget is 25k (basing it off that BN one) you could get a nice ruby and a lovely setting from a well regarded bench.

Does she have a "dream ring"? those two rings don't look very similar.

 

[Ashman]

Hi Neil

Thanks for the reply, to be honest she doesn't want either of those but when comparing them they seem close in spec but huge difference in price.

This is the ring she has her heart set on

http://www.bluenile.com/round-ruby-diamond-halo-ring-18k-white-gold_45572?click_id=876702799&oid=45572&pid=RR27500501&ring_size=6

and this one

http://www.bluenile.com/cushion-ruby-diamond-halo-ring-platinum_47211?click_id=411212312&oid=47211&pid=RR27500601&ring_size=6

The cost for either is 11 000k, does this seem like good value? One is 1.62 and other 1.32? Again the reason they say out of stock is because Bluenile has pulled it aside for us, but now we are getting cold feet because they can't tell us the treatment, all they say is they are natural stones but can't confirm heated vs oil?

Again so confused when comparing the above two that she wants to this one from jamesallen

http://www.jamesallen.com/preset-engagement-rings/designer-gemstone-rings/-18k-white-gold-3.21-red-item-39921

The jamesallen seems like so much better value, but how can one tell if neither company can provide much on the ruby aside from they are natural

 

[chrono]

http://www.bluenile.com/oval-ruby-diamond-three-stone-ring-platinum_42744 goes for $24500
The description states that the ruby is slightly orangish red, which brings the price down quite a bit. There is also zero mention of treatment. An untreated stone is far FAR more expensive than a heated ruby of like colour. Even within the heated group, there is H(a), H(b) and etc. which all affects pricing.

http://www.jamesallen.com/preset-engagement-rings/designer-gemstone-rings/-18k-white-gold-3.21-red-item-39921 goes for $10770.
Zero information on the ruby, so I cannot explain the pricing.

Both vendors have provided little to no information at all! Origin is the least of my concerns. Shop for colour first, keeping in mind the level of treatment that is acceptable to you. For the amount you are spending and given that rubies are one of the most highly treated stones, I would want a reputable lab report, preferably AGL.

BN and JA are not my go-to vendors for rubies as they provide very little information and are probably unlikely to tell you what you want to know.

Marc Sarosi - www.africagems.com
Arnold & Rung of AJS Gems - www.ajsgem.com
Andrew Gulij of Gemfix - www.gemfix.com
Constantin Wild - www.gemstone.de
Pala - www.palagems.com
Robert Genis http://www.preciousgemstones.com/

 

[tara3056]

I would never, ever buy an expensive ruby without knowing its treatment status. It's not even enough to say heated vs unheated, because beryllium diffusion, for example, is a subset of "heated" that lowers the value greatly. I would want an AGL GemBrief at minimum. As I think Chrono said, buy for the color and not the origin.

You will likely end up with a far better and more beautiful ring by buying the ruby first, and then finding a good bench to create the setting. Stock settings from places like Blue Nile are not what I would choose to put a $10k+ ruby in.

 

[Niel]

thats a very popular setting, and I'm sure you could replicate it for your budget, which i assume is around 11k?

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com
I would go though them to make the setting, as they do a very nice setting but without the cost of going hand forged.

you could probably even go with platinum.

 

[minousbijoux]

I would never, ever buy an expensive ruby without knowing its treatment status. It's not even enough to say heated vs unheated, because beryllium diffusion, for example, is a subset of "heated" that lowers the value greatly. I would want an AGL GemBrief at minimum. As I think Chrono said, buy for the color and not the origin.

You will likely end up with a far better and more beautiful ring by buying the ruby first, and then finding a good bench to create the setting. Stock settings from places like Blue Nile are not what I would choose to put a $10k+ ruby in.

This exactly.

Also, I recently had an opportunity to see many of Roger Dery's stones (Spectral Gems http://www.spectralgems.net/ ) firsthand. He showed me some very beautiful, untreated rubies. Two of them were multiple carat beauties with full lab reports (for those with a hefty budget). They were lovely, but given that they were out of my price range, I was a bit intimidated by them (for those with generous budgets interested in large, precision cut untreated rubies, I would definitely get in touch with Roger soon). BUT he also had some smaller beauties. You might want to add him to your list of vendors to be considered.

 

[Ashman]

Thank you everyone for the kind and helpful replies, it has really saved me from making a mistake, with that said (sorry if this is a newbie question) how hard is it to order a ruby and have it set in a blank ring I order from one of the sites posted above. In otherwords is it hard to do this an how quick can it be done, is it as easy as order a ruby, order a blank ring and just have anyone set it?

Or do I have to confirm the ruby size will fit the ring? Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated, I really want to go custom but I don't know how I got about doing that?

 

[the_mother_thing]

I believe it is best to buy the ruby first, then select a setting (doing the opposite in your case will rule out a lot of rubies, of which finding quality stones isn't easy, so leaving your options open would probably be better in terms of the gem). The setting will then largely depend on the size and cut stone you choose.

I know, in my case/new ruby ring project, I went about it a little backwards, but that's because I had a unique setting I wanted to use, and was able to wait for the right ruby to come along.

Best of luck to you!

 

[Niel]

Thank you everyone for the kind and helpful replies, it has really saved me from making a mistake, with that said (sorry if this is a newbie question) how hard is it to order a ruby and have it set in a blank ring I order from one of the sites posted above. In otherwords is it hard to do this an how quick can it be done, is it as easy as order a ruby, order a blank ring and just have anyone set it?

Or do I have to confirm the ruby size will fit the ring? Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated, I really want to go custom but I don't know how I got about doing that?

Buy the ruby you want first then contact vendors to get it set. They will make it specifically to fit your stone. Save about 3k of your budget for a stone if you want a halo setting like the ones you've mentioned above.

After you find a stone you like you would ship it to whichever place you decide to work with and they would make your setting and set your stone.

 

[chrono]

Ruby first then setting because settings can be made around a ruby but rubies cannot be made to fit a setting unless you plan to go with a synthetic stone or search for years. Once you've found the right stone, the process is faster and easier. If you like a stock setting, your jeweller can order it and set it for you. Wait time could be a week to 2 weeks. If you don't see a design you like, the jeweller can custom make one for you. If the design is straightforward, you can have it completed within 4 to 6 weeks. If the design is complicated, it could take several CAD revisions or design discussions (if hand forged), and could take a few weeks to a few months.

Do you have a design in mind, since you wrote that you want to go the custom route?
CAD/cast or hand forged?

Make sure you deal with a bench that is experienced and skilled with coloured stones, not just diamonds. I've had stones damaged during the setting process by benches with heavy hands. You might want to consider insuring the ruby prior to getting it set to cover any potential damage. Look at other work that the jeweller has done and see if the workmanship is up to your expectations. Make sure they've done work similar to the design you have in mind to increase your chances of getting what you like/want.

 

[Ashman]

Ruby first then setting because settings can be made around a ruby but rubies cannot be made to fit a setting unless you plan to go with a synthetic stone or search for years. Once you've found the right stone, the process is faster and easier. If you like a stock setting, your jeweller can order it and set it for you. Wait time could be a week to 2 weeks. If you don't see a design you like, the jeweller can custom make one for you. If the design is straightforward, you can have it completed within 4 to 6 weeks. If the design is complicated, it could take several CAD revisions or design discussions (if hand forged), and could take a few weeks to a few months.

Do you have a design in mind, since you wrote that you want to go the custom route?
CAD/cast or hand forged?

Make sure you deal with a bench that is experienced and skilled with coloured stones, not just diamonds. I've had stones damaged during the setting process by benches with heavy hands. You might want to consider insuring the ruby prior to getting it set to cover any potential damage. Look at other work that the jeweller has done and see if the workmanship is up to your expectations. Make sure they've done work similar to the design you have in mind to increase your chances of getting what you like/want.

HI Chrono, to be honest I am fairly inexperienced in this field, I have a budget of 10k, I am looking to find a quality ruby for my budget and have it set in a ring, I think when I said custom I am ok with ordering a standard setting and having the ruby set for the setting, but after reading what you just posted, it seems pretty complicated, I recall someone posted some urls for quality sites online that sold settings in many different styles, I can't find them anymore? I was hoping to just find a stone and pick a quality standard setting and have it mounted. Again tho after reading your last reply it sounds harder I don't have a trusted jeweler or even know how to go about selecting one that can handle setting rubies. Any help you could offer would be great insight.

Also at this point I can't really wait 4 plus weeks, I was hoping I could just order a ruby ship to setter and have it done at this point I am so frustrated.

Thanks in advance

 

[Niel]

ok, if you need a finished ring in a short period of time i would contact

people have good luck finding blue sapphires from him, and on his website he seems to have a few ruby halos.

http://www.escobardiamonds.com

 

[Ashman]

ok, if you need a finished ring in a short period of time i would contact

people have good luck finding blue sapphires from him, and on his website he seems to have a few ruby halos.

http://www.escobardiamonds.com

Hi Neil thanks for the help and site, this one looks good

http://www.escobardiamonds.com/showcase-item.aspx?id=1149&title=2.51ct%20oval%20ruby%20pave%27%20diamond%20halo%20ring%2018k%20gold

is this worth it? Seems great value but again limited information on the quality of ruby?

 

[Niel]

I am not sure.

I would call him, as I'm sure he can give you more information. Maybe he has more that aren't online.

also there are a lot of less than stellar reviews of The Natural Sapphire Company but this comes with a GIA cert and i dunno, looks nice to me. But I'm nobody, no expert. Im sure a CS expert could give a more knowledgeable review of this stone, but as for you being in a time crunch, they should be able to get it done faster than other vendors.

http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/sapphires/c-15-rubies/p-48281-cushion-ruby-u3939/

if it was something you were interested i think these settings are nice

http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/sapphires/sapphire-settings/c-24-ring-settings/p-44199-14k-white-gold-pave-diamond-ring-setting-js734w14/

http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/sapphires/sapphire-settings/c-24-ring-settings/p-42508-14k-white-gold-pave-diamond-ring-setting-js454w14/

but i would contact Joe Escabar first. He seems to be able to pick nice stones.

 

[psproot12]

ok, if you need a finished ring in a short period of time i would contact

people have good luck finding blue sapphires from him, and on his website he seems to have a few ruby halos.

http://www.escobardiamonds.com

Hi Neil thanks for the help and site, this one looks good

http://www.escobardiamonds.com/showcase-item.aspx?id=1149&title=2.51ct%20oval%20ruby%20pave%27%20diamond%20halo%20ring%2018k%20gold

is this worth it? Seems great value but again limited information on the quality of ruby?

The stone in that ring looks good... too good. I am fairly sure that is at least heated, if not treated further.

Buying a ring mount (blank) and buying a ruby separately is not very difficult at all. If you take in a picture of the blue nile ruby mounting she loved a jeweler can match it very, very closely. Most jewelers can have it done in a week or two. I would recommend buying a ruby with a GIA or AGL prestige report, this way you can be confident you're getting an excellent quality untreated (or only heated stone). Another crucial thing, is that you want to make sure the stone is TRANSPARENT , if it states "opaque", "translucent" or "semi-transparent" then it's not really gemstone grade and won't have brilliance.

I'm sure most PSers would agree with me in that you should at all cost avoid stones that have been lead glass filled or Beryllium diffused treated as these highly devalue the stone. You should also look for the reddest stone possible. "Stop Sign" red or "Pigeon Blood" red, a very deep red is ideal. Some stones that meet the recommended requirements(Good RED color (not pinkish/orangsh-red), GIA/AGL certified, and loose):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unheated-GIA-Certified-Pigeon-s-blood-Red-Natural-Ruby-Oval-1-10-ct-/161293241012?pt=Loose_Gemstones_1&hash=item258dd38ab4

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIA-Certified-Unheated-Ruby-2-07-Cts-VVS-Near-VIVID-RED-/231208093690?pt=Loose_Gemstones_1&hash=item35d51387fa (I personally think this stone is amazing)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-10-Carat-GIA-Certified-Unheated-Oval-Cut-Pigeon-Blood-Red-Ruby-/261121696543?pt=Loose_Gemstones_1&hash=item3ccc10e31f (This stone would be 40-50k set in a ring on bluenile)

Last thing, if it doesn't say the stone is UNHEATED it's probably because it is heated. Why else would bluenile not mention it?

 

[minousbijoux]

The stone in that ring looks good... too good. I am fairly sure that is at least heated, if not treated further.


I'm sure most PSers would agree with me in that you should at all cost avoid stones that have been lead glass filled or Beryllium diffused treated as these highly devalue the stone. You should also look for the reddest stone possible. "Stop Sign" red or "Pigeon Blood" red, a very deep red is ideal. Some stones that meet the recommended requirements(Good RED color (not pinkish/orangsh-red), GIA/AGL certified, and loose):

No, I don't think most of us would agree that one 'should at all cost avoid stones' that have been treated. What most of us say is that full disclosure is warranted and that one should know what one is buying and pay an appropriate price. For those with a limited budget, a highly treated ruby may be all that they can afford. It is a perfectly acceptable option if it is an informed choice.

 

[chrono]

HI Chrono, to be honest I am fairly inexperienced in this field, I have a budget of 10k, I am looking to find a quality ruby for my budget and have it set in a ring, I think when I said custom I am ok with ordering a standard setting and having the ruby set for the setting, but after reading what you just posted, it seems pretty complicated, I recall someone posted some urls for quality sites online that sold settings in many different styles, I can't find them anymore? I was hoping to just find a stone and pick a quality standard setting and have it mounted. Again tho after reading your last reply it sounds harder I don't have a trusted jeweler or even know how to go about selecting one that can handle setting rubies. Any help you could offer would be great insight. Also at this point I can't really wait 4 plus weeks, I was hoping I could just order a ruby ship to setter and have it done at this point I am so frustrated. Thanks in advance

It is easy enough to find a standard setting and having the ruby set. The below is a culled list of benches that many PSers have used before. You can pick a stock setting from them and have them set the ruby for you. I highly suggest developing a good relationship with a local jeweller for basic services such as cleaning, sizing, checking prongs, etc.

Brian Gavin Diamonds (BGD) - www.briangavindiamonds.com
Engagement Rings Direct (ERD) - www.engagementringsdirect.com
Quest Fine Jewelry http://questfinejewelers.com
Hunt Country Jewelers http://huntcountry.com
Peter Lees Jewelry http://peterlees.com
Pearlman's www.pearlmansjewelers.com

 

[chrono]

Hi Neil thanks for the help and site, this one looks good
http://www.escobardiamonds.com/showcase-item.aspx?id=1149&title=2.51ct%20oval%20ruby%20pave%27%20diamond%20halo%20ring%2018k%20gold
is this worth it? Seems great value but again limited information on the quality of ruby?

Sorry but based on the size of the ruby, colour and the price, I'm guessing it's more than just plain light heat.

 

[psproot12]

The stone in that ring looks good... too good. I am fairly sure that is at least heated, if not treated further.


I'm sure most PSers would agree with me in that you should at all cost avoid stones that have been lead glass filled or Beryllium diffused treated as these highly devalue the stone. You should also look for the reddest stone possible. "Stop Sign" red or "Pigeon Blood" red, a very deep red is ideal. Some stones that meet the recommended requirements(Good RED color (not pinkish/orangsh-red), GIA/AGL certified, and loose):

No, I don't think most of us would agree that one 'should at all cost avoid stones' that have been treated. What most of us say is that full disclosure is warranted and that one should know what one is buying and pay an appropriate price. For those with a limited budget, a highly treated ruby may be all that they can afford. It is a perfectly acceptable option if it is an informed choice.

Well, I was taking into account the fact that he has a 15k budget. Myself and at least some other PSers would agree that glass filled/beryllium diffused is a step too far, is it not?

 

[dk168]

I was shocked to see the prices for the ruby diamond rings on Blue Nile in the links posted previously, and could not help but think I could do it a lot better and possibly cheaper by getting a stone first and have it set afterwards.

My budget may not stretch to untreated rubies, and am prepared to get one that has been heat-treated only. However, there are a number of beautiful untreated rubies listed at Wild Fish Gems that are within my reach.

DK

 

[chrono]

also there are a lot of less than stellar reviews of The Natural Sapphire Company but this comes with a GIA cert and i dunno, looks nice to me. But I'm nobody, no expert. Im sure a CS expert could give a more knowledgeable review of this stone, but as for you being in a time crunch, they should be able to get it done faster than other vendors.

http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/sapphires/c-15-rubies/p-48281-cushion-ruby-u3939/

if it was something you were interested i think these settings are nice
http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/sapphires/sapphire-settings/c-24-ring-settings/p-44199-14k-white-gold-pave-diamond-ring-setting-js734w14/
http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/sapphires/sapphire-settings/c-24-ring-settings/p-42508-14k-white-gold-pave-diamond-ring-setting-js454w14/

Niel,
I agree that given the time crunch, he may have to go with NSC. The stone you picked out isn't that bad at all. The colour is actually quite nice (some orange but mostly red), already comes with GIA paperwork and is on sale, which makes NSC's higher pricing easier to swallow. The one inclusion near the lower right edge is prongable but there are a few black spots on the lower left and upper right which I'm not sure if the OP is okay with. The off-centered culet isn't so bad from the crown view. The small window should close up in a halo setting. The bonus of getting everything done with NSC is that they will take responsibility of any damage to the ruby because he is getting both the stone and setting with them. The only change I would suggest is a yellow gold setting over a white gold setting because rubies look richer and warmer in high karat yellow gold.

 

[chrono]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unheated-GIA-Certified-Pigeon-s-blood-Red-Natural-Ruby-Oval-1-10-ct-/161293241012?pt=Loose_Gemstones_1&hash=item258dd38ab4
Flat as a pancake, grossly windowed, little to no brilliance and the colour is far from top red.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIA-Certified-Unheated-Ruby-2-07-Cts-VVS-Near-VIVID-RED-/231208093690?pt=Loose_Gemstones_1&hash=item35d51387fa (I personally think this stone is amazing)
Also a pancake stone although less flat than the first one you suggested, has a large window, little to no brilliance and definitely no where close to strong colouration, much less vivid colouration.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-10-Carat-GIA-Certified-Unheated-Oval-Cut-Pigeon-Blood-Red-Ruby-/261121696543?pt=Loose_Gemstones_1&hash=item3ccc10e31f
Another pancake stone with a large window, little to no brilliance (other than facet flash from the edges), obviously included (too much silk), and GIA described it as purplish red.[/color]

PSProot12,
I am sorry to say that just because a stone is listed as transparent by GIA doesn't necessarily make it a fine quality red ruby.

 

[Niel]

also there are a lot of less than stellar reviews of The Natural Sapphire Company but this comes with a GIA cert and i dunno, looks nice to me. But I'm nobody, no expert. Im sure a CS expert could give a more knowledgeable review of this stone, but as for you being in a time crunch, they should be able to get it done faster than other vendors.

http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/sapphires/c-15-rubies/p-48281-cushion-ruby-u3939/

if it was something you were interested i think these settings are nice
http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/sapphires/sapphire-settings/c-24-ring-settings/p-44199-14k-white-gold-pave-diamond-ring-setting-js734w14/
http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/sapphires/sapphire-settings/c-24-ring-settings/p-42508-14k-white-gold-pave-diamond-ring-setting-js454w14/

Niel,
I agree that given the time crunch, he may have to go with NSC. The stone you picked out isn't that bad at all. The colour is actually quite nice (some orange but mostly red), already comes with GIA paperwork and is on sale, which makes NSC's higher pricing easier to swallow. The one inclusion near the lower right edge is prongable but there are a few black spots on the lower left and upper right which I'm not sure if the OP is okay with. The off-centered culet isn't so bad from the crown view. The small window should close up in a halo setting. The bonus of getting everything done with NSC is that they will take responsibility of any damage to the ruby because he is getting both the stone and setting with them. The only change I would suggest is a yellow gold setting over a white gold setting because rubies look richer and warmer in high karat yellow gold.

You're right about the yellow gold, of course. if the OPs (soon to be) fiancé would allow yellow gold, id go that route. If not, the NSC settings are such that id think he could afford plat.

being that it has that inclusion on the side, and the off center culet, id get one of these settings, as they hide the underside of the stone, and have prongs to hide the spot.

http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/sapphires/sapphire-settings/c-24-ring-settings/p-42519-18k-yellow-gold-pave-diamond-ring-setting-js455y18/

http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/sapphires/sapphire-settings/c-24-ring-settings/p-41188-18k-yellow-gold-ring-setting-js269y18/

http://www.thenaturalsapphirecompany.com/sapphires/sapphire-settings/c-24-ring-settings/p-42511-18k-yellow-gold-pave-diamond-ring-setting-js454y18/ (probably the most like the inspiration pics. and the double prongs would probably help in hiding the spot more)

 

[chrono]

Looking at the location of the black inclusions, they are too far to the center of the edge to be partially hidden even by double prongs.

 

[Niel]

Looking at the location of the black inclusions, they are too far to the center of the edge to be partially hidden even by double prongs.

ah rats. Hopefully Joe Escobar has something that might work. Thats one of the few stones that come with a 3rd party cert on NSC

 

[psproot12]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Unheated-GIA-Certified-Pigeon-s-blood-Red-Natural-Ruby-Oval-1-10-ct-/161293241012?pt=Loose_Gemstones_1&hash=item258dd38ab4
Flat as a pancake, grossly windowed, little to no brilliance and the colour is far from top red.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIA-Certified-Unheated-Ruby-2-07-Cts-VVS-Near-VIVID-RED-/231208093690?pt=Loose_Gemstones_1&hash=item35d51387fa (I personally think this stone is amazing)
Also a pancake stone although less flat than the first one you suggested, has a large window, little to no brilliance and definitely no where close to strong colouration, much less vivid colouration.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-10-Carat-GIA-Certified-Unheated-Oval-Cut-Pigeon-Blood-Red-Ruby-/261121696543?pt=Loose_Gemstones_1&hash=item3ccc10e31f
Another pancake stone with a large window, little to no brilliance (other than facet flash from the edges), obviously included (too much silk), and GIA described it as purplish red.[/color]

PSProot12,
I am sorry to say that just because a stone is listed as transparent by GIA doesn't necessarily make it a fine quality red ruby.

I never said that it did I just said to avoid translucent and opaque stones as they wont have any brilliance. I wasn't saying to go with those stones just wanted to give him an idea of what the loose stone market was like.

 

[psproot12]

Don't know if you've got your ring yet, but this looks amazing!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIA-MAGNIFICENT-SUPER-GEM-5-28-CT-NO-HEAT-RUBY-AMAZING-COCKTAIL-RING-/251520456619?pt=US_Fine_Rings&hash=item3a8fc997ab

GIA color "Red" not pinkish red, not purple red, nothing but RED! Also, 3.61 ct and transparent! It's at $3k right now, but I think it will end aroung the 15k mark, definitely not worth passing up!! Retail just the ruby would be nowhere short of 50k!! If not Ahsman, somebody needs to buy this!

 

[swissmiss]

How about this one: http://www.africagems.com/cushion-red-ruby-g2k-5328.html

unheated, GIA cert, reasonably priced. Perhaps it would be worth inquiring for a video.

 

[Ashman]

thanks everyone for all the help, neil those links you posted for the yellow gold rings are fine and look amazing, thank you.

After reading for weeks on end here and trying to learn as much as possible, and viewing other threads on here in the same situation, it seems buying Rubies is not for rookies like myself, it seems so hard and difficult to find a quality ruby at a fair trade price.

I am starting to think to go with the typical diamond the wife to be will be sad with that but what can I do, so many posted rubies and dealers yet to be honest many seem the same on photo so I understand the theory behind what makes a good ruby but I don't see it in photo.

Chrono if you don't mind me asking, or anyone else for that matter , my budget is 10 to 15k total, so a blank ring around 2500 can any of you post a url to a ruby you would buy and find of good value for the money?