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new to ps looking for a 1.3-1.5 carat round, budget~ $6000-7

sparklefire

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Hi Everybody,

In my search I have found this ring

Carat: 1.31
Clarity: SI2
Color:G
Depth: 59.5
Table: 59%
Crown angle: 33%
Pavilion angle: 41%
Girdle: Medium
Fluorescence: Strong
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Excellent

What are your opinions on this diamond? I am curious to know how the fluorescence will affect the color of the diamond. I have also read that you don't want any extreme girdles...what does this mean? is medium an 'extreme?"

Thanks!

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Re: new to ps looking for a 1.3-1.5 carat round, budget~ $60

Looks great!!! I'd ask about those inclusions though and make sure the stone is completely eye clean. It scored a 1.0 on the HCA so it's a well performing stone. The fluorescence will help the stone look more white.
 
Re: new to ps looking for a 1.3-1.5 carat round, budget~ $60

If this stone is under $7,000 there is a good chance that one of two things is bringing the price down.

Either the fluorescence is affecting the appearance or it's not cut as well as the certificate claims. Or a little of both.

Strong fluorescence will NOT make a G color stone look whiter. There's about a 90% chance it will give the stone a milky/hazy look.

A 1.30 round that is truly an excellent cut without fluorescence is going to cost more than $7,000 no matter where you look.

You might think about dropping down to 1.2 with H color. Stay below medium blue fluorescence.
 
Re: new to ps looking for a 1.3-1.5 carat round, budget~ $60

HCA 1, and within the AGS 0 candidate proportions.

Medium girdle is fine. Very thin/thick you want to stay away from.

Do check if eye-clean or if it is hazy.
 
Re: new to ps looking for a 1.3-1.5 carat round, budget~ $60

Fluorescence is rarely a negative. There is some question about fluoro paired with low clarity being more of a potential problem, though, so it does need to be checked out. I have a G with strong blue and it is beautiful! Here is a great article that points out some of the misconceptions about fluoro:

https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-flourescence
 
Re: new to ps looking for a 1.3-1.5 carat round, budget~ $60

Here's a link to the grading report listing and PDF.
https://myapps.gia.edu/ReportCheckPortal/getReportData.do?&reportno=2136519019&weight=1.31#

The primary concerns are whether inclusions (TWs / feathers) or strong fluorescence impact optics or durability.

RE TWs: A twinning wisp is an intergrowth, or the twisting together of inclusions, pinpoints, fractures, crystals, feathers or clouds in a twinning plane. When the TW is the grade-setting characteristic, as with this diamond, it's often a series of clouds. If dense enough, twinning wisps can interfere with optics. GIA SI2 diamonds with clouds, graining or TWs as the grade-setting inclusion should be checked for this. Beyond optical considerations, there's also a minute possibility that widespread distortion like this within the crystal structure can pose a durability risk to the longevity of the stone. This is extremely rare and perhaps overcautious, since the diamond has already undergone more pressure & friction during sawing, bruting and polishing than it will ever see again. But in the interest of thoroughness it is something a picky gemologist will inspect-for.

RE Feathers: Same durability caution with a similar caveat, as I believe the "feather scare" is terrifically overblown in diamonds above I2. With that said, it's prudent to use a skilled stonesetter for any diamond with feathers reaching the girdle.

RE Fluorescence: In terms of color-appearance; blue fluorescence can help whiten stones at the low end of the near-colorless range (in my opinion a GIA G doesn't need helping). Of more relevance; buying a Strong Blue or Very Strong Blue Fluorescent diamond is much like buying an SI1 or SI2 clarity. Those brief terms cover a massive range while giving limited information. I've seen dozens of SB and VSB diamonds that are breathtaking, with no haziness or optical compromise. I've seen others where there was enough oversaturation to make the stone look like blue milk was suspended in the crystal... As with clarity and cut-quality, you should always see the diamond yourself, or work with someone you trust to deliver a gem with no compromise in optics or oversaturation at high fluorescence levels.

Here's a VSB flourescence photo from a little while back (non sequitur, but fun)
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/photo-very-strong-blue-fluorescence.183070/

With all that said...

$6,000-7,000 is less than a trade member can purchase the average GIA 1.31 G SI2 EX for on the largest wholesale platform in our business. There is a reason this diamond is priced as it is; possibly identified in the posts above, or there may be something else. Either way this business is extremely consistent in that sense and you most certainly want to know "why" the price is what it is.
 
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