New here...need some comparison help.

[Putting_a_ring_on_it]

I've done some reading here and there over the months. So i have learned a lot( mainly this is literally the happiest group of people on any forum on the internet) . Looked on different sites for different engagement rings. Checked Tiffany's....Cartier....tacori.

However after doing some reading here I decided to try to create my own on blue Nile. What I came up with was this...


The total diamond carat weight of your ring is 2.30.
Ideal-cut, G-color, VS2-clarity, Round, 1.90-carat Diamond. Stock #: LD03241555 $20,717
Pavé Diamond Engagement Ring in 14k White Gold (1/2 ct. tw.). Stock #: 30612 $1,365
Engrave this engagement ring
SUBTOTAL: $22,082



Now what I'm trying to compare is Cartier. Lets say I got a Cartier around those specs. What would the difference be....another 10k or so ? Just curious .

Thanks for help.

 

[Putting_a_ring_on_it]

By the way that's the pic of it on blue Nile. I liked the 1895 solitaire from Cartier so wanted something like that style.

 

[arkieb1]

I'd guess around $10, 000 more roughly at Tiffany, over $10, 000 more at Cartier and many times more at Graff. I am not sure why that matters....

 

[JulieN]

I would get a nicer setting... a basic peg head does not befit a 21K center.

There are some similar at Whiteflash

http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/legato-sleek-line-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-422.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/diamond-settings/petite-open-cathedral-diamond-engagement-ring-1539.htm

 

[Niel]

can i make the slightest suggestion, because i think youre on the right track.... I would try for a little bit nicer setting. Your budget is extremely healthy, and i think putting such a beautiful stone in a setting that doesnt match the beauty of the stone might be a mistake. Plus, if say you dropped down to an I, you wouldnt really notice the color difference, but youd save enough to get a setting that would match the beauty of the stone.

now I cant recommend this stone without getting more angles and an idealscope, but to me its worth contacting EDR about

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/1.95-carat-i-vs2-excellent-round-cut-diamond-gid-127414.html

plus, spending THAT MUCH on something, you want to make sure youre getting a good one. So you want a place thatll give you idealscopes and as much info as youd like.

I would ask engagement rings direct to reproduce the cartier setting you like. They have a myriad of settings that are replicas of high end settings. If you asked them to im sure they could do it and not too much more than the blue nile one your looking at. And that way, you get exactly what you want. Because that will mimic Cartier, but the quality is not close.

PS whatever you do i cannot wait to see the result

 

[Putting_a_ring_on_it]

I would get a nicer setting... a basic peg head does not befit a 21K center.

This is why I needed help. What would you....or anyone else suggest?

 

[JulieN]

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/18k-white-gold-2.2mm-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-item-1566
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones/eternal-grace-with-pave-18k-white-gold-5822w18

I don't know how much you are looking to spend on a setting.

 

[Putting_a_ring_on_it]

can i make the slightest suggestion, because i think youre on the right track.... I would try for a little bit nicer setting. Your budget is extremely healthy, and i think putting such a beautiful stone in a setting that doesnt match the beauty of the stone might be a mistake. Plus, if say you dropped down to an I, you wouldnt really notice the color difference, but youd save enough to get a setting that would match the beauty of the stone.

now I cant recommend this stone without getting more angles and an idealscope, but to me its worth contacting EDR about

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/1.95-carat-i-vs2-excellent-round-cut-diamond-gid-127414.html

plus, spending THAT MUCH on something, you want to make sure youre getting a good one. So you want a place thatll give you idealscopes and as much info as youd like.

I would ask engagement rings direct to reproduce the cartier setting you like. They have a myriad of settings that are replicas of high end settings. If you asked them to im sure they could do it and not too much more than the blue nile one your looking at. And that way, you get exactly what you want. Because that will mimic Cartier, but the quality is not close.

PS whatever you do i cannot wait to see the result

Thanks for response.

So going down from a G to an I wouldn't be much of a difference? I might compromise and go with H. However, I'm not really concerned with that as much as I am with the setting. It was easy learning about the 4 Cs and creating the diamond I wanted.

It's the setting I have no clue about other than it being paved. That's what I know she wants for sure.

 

[Putting_a_ring_on_it]

I'd guess around $10, 000 more roughly at Tiffany, over $10, 000 more at Cartier and many times more at Graff. I am not sure why that matters....

Because I'm dumb and always got suckered in with name brands. I'm learning the older I get

Still had to ask though.

 

[Putting_a_ring_on_it]

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/18k-white-gold-2.2mm-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-item-1566
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/pave-and-side-stones/eternal-grace-with-pave-18k-white-gold-5822w18

I don't know how much you are looking to spend on a setting.

Thanks.

I like the JA setting.

Which leads me to my next question, and bare with me here...if I ordered both diamond and setting from blue Nile...or any site for that matter( is blue Nile not the best for price/quality?) isn't the ring already set?

 

[JulieN]

Most BN settings are peg head, the melee tend to be like H/I SI quality, and I'm not as familiar with the settings, so I did not bother to look.

Yes if you buy both at the same time they will set it for you.

The JA one is ok, if you want something more delicate it would probably cost more. perhaps JA could upgrade for an extra charge.

 

[Niel]

Most people, when it comes to a round, would consider an I very white, and i dont think you would have any problem, but if your uncomfortable, and H for sure would be VERY white, and give you a little wiggle room with the budget...

I just think, with your budget, it would make an overall more attractive ring if you dropped down in color to get a really nice setting. The color from G to H is minute, but the difference in quality settings isnt. And i think if you spent sooo much, you might have a little ( itty bitty baby ) pang of dissatisfaction if the setting has some corners cut to keep the price down

 

[Putting_a_ring_on_it]

Ok so I'll definitely go with H. I wasn't really trying to save money on the setting, that is just the one I saw on that site that fit the description. I'd be willing to spend anywhere from 1.5 -4k on setting. I would just prefer it to be from same place, that's the problem. So it could be set already.

 

[Niel]

ok, and sense youve been reading the boards enough i assume youve seen these around.... but i think for your money you couldnt get a better stone (J is considered near colorless too, and these cuts hide color better.... plus, im certain they could create you a video comparing that stone to a G-H regular stone to show you just how little a difference a few color grades within the "near colorless" range there really is...)

I know, i know, you are looking for setting help not stone help, but i cant help it, this stone is really a GEM! and cheaper than the one youre looking at..


http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9890/

and with that savings you could afford a tacori setting ( i saw you post it in the OP), there seems to be quite a few to keep you within your budget...
http://www.tacori.com/engagement/ht254615rd65.html ( now THOSE are secure prongs)
http://www.tacori.com/engagement/58-2rd65.html (just one example )

plus, tacori plus an AVR is the absolute perfect match, and i cant think of a more unique yet completely classic combo. Everyone would be so envious (at least, jsut about every single person on PS)

 

[Niel]

Ok so I'll definitely go with H. I wasn't really trying to save money on the setting, that is just the one I saw on that site that fit the description. I'd be willing to spend anywhere from 1.5 -4k on setting. I would just prefer it to be from same place, that's the problem. So it could be set already.

I agree getting it from the same place is really the best idea... youre set with BN? Because rounds are SO easy to find, really you can find the setting you like and whichever vendor that is can help you find the perfect stone for your budget

 

[JulieN]

I wonder if this is under 4K http://www.artofplatinum.com/index.php/portfolio/solitaires/solitaire-engagement-ring-pave-handmade-detail

 

[Putting_a_ring_on_it]

Ok so I'll definitely go with H. I wasn't really trying to save money on the setting, that is just the one I saw on that site that fit the description. I'd be willing to spend anywhere from 1.5 -4k on setting. I would just prefer it to be from same place, that's the problem. So it could be set already.

I agree getting it from the same place is really the best idea... youre set with BN? Because rounds are SO easy to find, really you can find the setting you like and whichever vendor that is can help you find the perfect stone for your budget

Not set on BN at all. Just the one I heard most about in my limited experience in searching for the right engagement ring.


And now we are down to a J color???? Haha...I don't know...I want to make sure it's pretty colorless...sparkly...etc..etc. in our few talks about it, my girl doesn't care about size really....just the quality of the diamond. So I want to make sure she gets the best. She deserves it and sure as hell waited long enough.


Those tacori's are great. So lets say I had to order from two different places. I go to a jeweler and pay them to set it?

 

[Putting_a_ring_on_it]

Ok so I'll definitely go with H. I wasn't really trying to save money on the setting, that is just the one I saw on that site that fit the description. I'd be willing to spend anywhere from 1.5 -4k on setting. I would just prefer it to be from same place, that's the problem. So it could be set already.

I agree getting it from the same place is really the best idea... youre set with BN? Because rounds are SO easy to find, really you can find the setting you like and whichever vendor that is can help you find the perfect stone for your budget

Not set on BN at all. Just the one I heard most about in my limited experience in searching for the right engagement ring.


And now we are down to a J color???? Haha...I don't know...I want to make sure it's pretty colorless...sparkly...etc..etc. in our few talks about it, my girl doesn't care about size really....just the quality of the diamond. So I want to make sure she gets the best. She deserves it and sure as hell waited long enough.


Those tacori's are great. So lets say I had to order from two different places. I go to a jeweler and pay them to set it?

 

[arkieb1]

ERD does Cartier and Tiffany style settings;

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/cartier-inspired-pcid-17.html

Or if you want the best of the best something like this;

http://www.victorcanera.com/jewelry/engagement-rings/the-alaria-solitaire-with-flush-stems

If you want a white stone don't go lower than a H.

 

[Putting_a_ring_on_it]

ERD does Cartier and Tiffany style settings;

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/cartier-inspired-pcid-17.html

Or if you want the best of the best something like this;

http://www.victorcanera.com/jewelry/engagement-rings/the-alaria-solitaire-with-flush-stems

If you want a white stone don't go lower than a H.

Ok I really like the Alaria. I could do a round cut 1.95 ct with it?


Btw, appreciate all the patience from all of you with my elementary questions on this subject

 

[Niel]

ERD does Cartier and Tiffany style settings;

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/cartier-inspired-pcid-17.html

Or if you want the best of the best something like this;

http://www.victorcanera.com/jewelry/engagement-rings/the-alaria-solitaire-with-flush-stems

If you want a white stone don't go lower than a H.

dissagree. Pluus,

Take a look at this. Its even larger, and its an I.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-2-29-ct-avr-take-1.190100/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-2-29-ct-avr-take-1.190100/[/URL]

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vI3Tkd3VQU&feature=c4-overview&playnext=1&list=TLrMGo7HffqCY

now i get, you may not be comfortable with it, i know that on paper, A J seems lower. And people get uncomfortable with that. but you dont wear the certificate on the finger. But if youre still uncomfortable with it, thats ok too. MY only thing is to not knock it until you try it. If youve seen A J colored stone and YOU dont like the way it looks, then sure, pass, but dont pass just because you assume you wont. It might just surprise you

But to your question about stones... if you want a Tacori, get your stone from good old gold, they will set it for you and you dont have to worry about it. If they dont have a stone in their inventory you like, they will actually search for one for you.

 

[Putting_a_ring_on_it]

ERD does Cartier and Tiffany style settings;

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/cartier-inspired-pcid-17.html

Or if you want the best of the best something like this;

http://www.victorcanera.com/jewelry/engagement-rings/the-alaria-solitaire-with-flush-stems

If you want a white stone don't go lower than a H.

dissagree. Pluus,

Take a look at this. Its even larger, and its an I.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-2-29-ct-avr-take-1.190100/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-2-29-ct-avr-take-1.190100/[/URL]

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vI3Tkd3VQU&feature=c4-overview&playnext=1&list=TLrMGo7HffqCY

now i get, you may not be comfortable with it, i know that on paper, A J seems lower. And people get uncomfortable with that. but you dont wear the certificate on the finger. But if youre still uncomfortable with it, thats ok too. MY only thing is to not knock it until you try it. If youve seen A J colored stone and YOU dont like the way it looks, then sure, pass, but dont pass just because you assume you wont. It might just surprise you

But to your question about stones... if you want a Tacori, get your stone from good old gold, they will set it for you and you dont have to worry about it. If they dont have a stone in their inventory you like, they will actually search for one for you.

That all makes sense. Getting a lot of good info here. That I looked pretty white.

You confused me in your last few sentences though. How would good old gold be able to set the tacori?

 

[Putting_a_ring_on_it]

Just did the same specs ( as I did for BN) on GoodOldGold and the diamond came out to 30,000. ??


As for the setting....this is what I'm definitely going with ....

http://www.tacori.com/engagement/ht254615rd65.html


Now I have to figure out the diamond...so I have the opposite problem now..ha

 

[arkieb1]

ERD does Cartier and Tiffany style settings;

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/cartier-inspired-pcid-17.html

Or if you want the best of the best something like this;

http://www.victorcanera.com/jewelry/engagement-rings/the-alaria-solitaire-with-flush-stems

If you want a white stone don't go lower than a H.

dissagree. Pluus,

Take a look at this. Its even larger, and its an I.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-2-29-ct-avr-take-1.190100/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-2-29-ct-avr-take-1.190100/[/URL]

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vI3Tkd3VQU&feature=c4-overview&playnext=1&list=TLrMGo7HffqCY

now i get, you may not be comfortable with it, i know that on paper, A J seems lower. And people get uncomfortable with that. but you dont wear the certificate on the finger. But if youre still uncomfortable with it, thats ok too. MY only thing is to not knock it until you try it. If youve seen A J colored stone and YOU dont like the way it looks, then sure, pass, but dont pass just because you assume you wont. It might just surprise you

But to your question about stones... if you want a Tacori, get your stone from good old gold, they will set it for you and you dont have to worry about it. If they dont have a stone in their inventory you like, they will actually search for one for you.

Some people are EXTREMELY colour sensitive. I owned a J coloured RB which I sold and the colour always always bothered me. I don't think you can assume what is right for you is right for everyone else. I think the best thing to do is go any shop nearby and look at some stones and see what you can live with. An "I" colour and we are talking high "I"s not low ones is about my limit with modern round cuts. I also like really low colours. Some people notice colour at an "I" some at a "J" some at a "K" some at a "H". Each person has a different tolerance for colour.

Victor is a lovely lovely guy (yes I have worked with him) his stuff is to die for and his pave is about the best money can buy.

 

[arkieb1]

ERD does Cartier and Tiffany style settings;

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/cartier-inspired-pcid-17.html

Or if you want the best of the best something like this;

http://www.victorcanera.com/jewelry/engagement-rings/the-alaria-solitaire-with-flush-stems

If you want a white stone don't go lower than a H.

dissagree. Pluus,

Take a look at this. Its even larger, and its an I.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-2-29-ct-avr-take-1.190100/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-2-29-ct-avr-take-1.190100/[/URL]

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vI3Tkd3VQU&feature=c4-overview&playnext=1&list=TLrMGo7HffqCY

now i get, you may not be comfortable with it, i know that on paper, A J seems lower. And people get uncomfortable with that. but you dont wear the certificate on the finger. But if youre still uncomfortable with it, thats ok too. MY only thing is to not knock it until you try it. If youve seen A J colored stone and YOU dont like the way it looks, then sure, pass, but dont pass just because you assume you wont. It might just surprise you

But to your question about stones... if you want a Tacori, get your stone from good old gold, they will set it for you and you dont have to worry about it. If they dont have a stone in their inventory you like, they will actually search for one for you.

Some people are EXTREMELY colour sensitive. I owned a J coloured RB which I sold and the colour always always bothered me. I don't think you can assume what is right for you is right for everyone else. I think the best thing to do is go any shop nearby and look at some stones and see what you can live with. An "I" colour and we are talking high "I"s not low ones is about my limit with modern round cuts. I also like really low colours. Some people notice colour at an "I" some at a "J" some at a "K" some at a "H". Each person has a different tolerance for colour.

Victor is a lovely lovely guy (yes I have worked with him) his stuff is to die for and his pave is about the best money can buy.

 

[Niel]

Just did the same specs ( as I did for BN) on GoodOldGold and the diamond came out to 30,000. ??


As for the setting....this is what I'm definitely going with ....

http://www.tacori.com/engagement/ht254615rd65.html


Now I have to figure out the diamond...so I have the opposite problem now..ha

What I was saying was good old gold is an authorized tacori retailer. Any stone you get from them they will set for you in a tacori you buy from them as well. You pay them, they send you the whole completed ring

I wouldn't take too much stock in the stones they have on their site. The one you found could have been a branded H&A or other type of stone that commands more premium. Like I said, shoot them and email. Tell them you want a 1.9+ ct stone that's vs2 or better and h (or I) or better for 20k... they will find you one. The way they do it is different than blue Nile. They narrow your search and show you your best options.

 

[me&myboys]

ERD does Cartier and Tiffany style settings;

http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/cartier-inspired-pcid-17.html

Or if you want the best of the best something like this;

http://www.victorcanera.com/jewelry/engagement-rings/the-alaria-solitaire-with-flush-stems

If you want a white stone don't go lower than a H.

dissagree. Pluus,

Take a look at this. Its even larger, and its an I.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-2-29-ct-avr-take-1.190100/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-2-29-ct-avr-take-1.190100/[/URL]

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vI3Tkd3VQU&feature=c4-overview&playnext=1&list=TLrMGo7HffqCY

now i get, you may not be comfortable with it, i know that on paper, A J seems lower. And people get uncomfortable with that. but you dont wear the certificate on the finger. But if youre still uncomfortable with it, thats ok too. MY only thing is to not knock it until you try it. If youve seen A J colored stone and YOU dont like the way it looks, then sure, pass, but dont pass just because you assume you wont. It might just surprise you

But to your question about stones... if you want a Tacori, get your stone from good old gold, they will set it for you and you dont have to worry about it. If they dont have a stone in their inventory you like, they will actually search for one for you.

Some people are EXTREMELY colour sensitive. I owned a J coloured RB which I sold and the colour always always bothered me. I don't think you can assume what is right for you is right for everyone else. I think the best thing to do is go any shop nearby and look at some stones and see what you can live with. An "I" colour and we are talking high "I"s not low ones is about my limit with modern round cuts. I also like really low colours. Some people notice colour at an "I" some at a "J" some at a "K" some at a "H". Each person has a different tolerance for colour.

Victor is a lovely lovely guy (yes I have worked with him) his stuff is to die for and his pave is about the best money can buy.

I completely agree with this

I don't think images representing diamond colour are a good reflection of what they look like in real life. If the example of the "I" is supposed to be a confirmation of its "whiteness", then I would consider it a fail. It certainly looks "not white" to me in many of the images....but...that's just me.

Pictures of diamonds representing colour can be misleading as most (and I stress most) are trying to convey how white they face up (so a bias for image selection already begins...even if, subconsciously).

In my no-expert opinion, I would say that to be fair to yourself, that you should walk into a store and check out a range of colours and determine what your tolerance for tint is. Then you'll be sure that you won't be disappointed

Good luck with your search....exciting times ahead, indeed

 

[Putting_a_ring_on_it]

Just did the same specs ( as I did for BN) on GoodOldGold and the diamond came out to 30,000. ??


As for the setting....this is what I'm definitely going with ....

http://www.tacori.com/engagement/ht254615rd65.html


Now I have to figure out the diamond...so I have the opposite problem now..ha

What I was saying was good old gold is an authorized tacori retailer. Any stone you get from them they will set for you in a tacori you buy from them as well. You pay them, they send you the whole completed ring

I wouldn't take too much stock in the stones they have on their site. The one you found could have been a branded H&A or other type of stone that commands more premium. Like I said, shoot them and email. Tell them you want a 1.9+ ct stone that's vs2 or better and h (or I) or better for 20k... they will find you one. The way they do it is different than blue Nile. They narrow your search and show you your best options.

Thanks ill take that route

 

[AprilBaby]

Stick with an "H".

 

[Putting_a_ring_on_it]

Ok another question. What's with the fluorescence ? Some say strong..some say none. None better?