Need your help to pick ~3.5 ctw stud earrings

[teslagirl1234]

@diamondseeker2006

yes have to get one blue nile to get trade in credit. It ends up being more but I get to keep a stone for pendant I was going to trade in this way. So effectively I get more diamonds lol.
Thank you for advice. Will try to see if I can handle payments this way, paying both.
And have one from James Allen one from Blue Nile unless Blue Nile can somehow find that 2.13 and order it.

@diamondseeker2006



https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD13780944 image (Blue Nile 2.11 one)

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Gorgeous!!! So glad to see that! James Allen's prices are lower than BN, so I wouldn't allow them to call in the 2.13 unless they are matching the JA price.

 

[teslagirl1234]

Gorgeous!!! So glad to see that! James Allen's prices are lower than BN, so I wouldn't allow them to call in the 2.13 unless they are matching the JA price.

Got it!
Blue Nile said they can maybe price match but not guaranteed. 2.13 is on hold with JA, so if Blue Nile wanted it to sell to me, if they matched price or were slightly higher, how would I handle that? Release from hold?

 

[teslagirl1234]

Gorgeous!!! So glad to see that! James Allen's prices are lower than BN, so I wouldn't allow them to call in the 2.13 unless they are matching the JA price.

@diamondseeker2006

the diamonds came in and the Blue Nile one is in a mounting and James Allen j ordered loose. The Blue Nile 2.11 is not as sparkly as the JA 2.13. They both have excellent HCA scores (under 1 I think).

Do you think the angles are off on Blue Nile? JA has more light return and fire it seems. It’s just more sparkly. Need to figure out if to keep BN one or exchange. JA one is perfect.

BN forgot to polish inside of mounting so I wonder if that’s the reason.

Please help!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Good HCA score is 2 or lower. A score of 1 is not better than 1.9. Anything under 2.0 is worth considering. Usually you're going to find the best stones within 1-2.

The BN stone does not have the same angles as the JA stone. The BN stone looks beautiful in the photo, but I believe I said earlier that the JA stone had the best cut as far as numbers go. So I assume you are seeing a cut difference. It doesn't mean the BN stone is bad, but if you want the cut to match, you'll need to be looking numbers very close to the JA stone, which is 56 table, 34.5 crown angle, 40.8 pavilion angle, and depth close to 61.2.

 

[teslagirl1234]

Good HCA score is 2 or lower. A score of 1 is not better than 1.9. Anything under 2.0 is worth considering. Usually you're going to find the best stones within 1-2.

The BN stone does not have the same angles as the JA stone. The BN stone looks beautiful in the photo, but I believe I said earlier that the JA stone had the best cut as far as numbers go. So I assume you are seeing a cut difference. It doesn't mean the BN stone is bad, but if you want the cut to match, you'll need to be looking numbers very close to the JA stone, which is 56 table, 34.5 crown angle, 40.8 pavilion angle, and depth close to 61.2.

Got it thank you so much.

 

[teslagirl1234]

Good HCA score is 2 or lower. A score of 1 is not better than 1.9. Anything under 2.0 is worth considering. Usually you're going to find the best stones within 1-2.

The BN stone does not have the same angles as the JA stone. The BN stone looks beautiful in the photo, but I believe I said earlier that the JA stone had the best cut as far as numbers go. So I assume you are seeing a cut difference. It doesn't mean the BN stone is bad, but if you want the cut to match, you'll need to be looking numbers very close to the JA stone, which is 56 table, 34.5 crown angle, 40.8 pavilion angle, and depth close to 61.2.

Also do you recommend anyone to set my earrings since they are from different vendors? Many jewelers including HPD do not insure stones that aren’t theirs. So if you don’t have insurance and they get chipped or stolen, you’re out of luck. And for those who do have insurance on their stones I wonder if their insurance would have any exclusion if the Jeweler chipped them. I can only imagine if a person walks into a new jewelry store or moves and cannot go to their old jewelry store where they bought the diamond and something happens to it I don’t know that they would even know that the drill Jeweler did not have insurance
I can only imagine if a person walks into a new jewelry store or moves and cannot go to their old jewelry store where they bought the diamond and something happens to it I don’t know that they would even know that the Jeweler did not have insurance as it’s not their stone.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Let's find someone nearby to set them so you don't have to send them somewhere. Tell me the nearest large city where you could drop off the diamonds and we will see if there is a highly reputable vendor we could recommend to set them. It is always best if the diamond vendor sets them, but that definitely won't work in this case. I'd try to temporarily insure them through Jeweler's Mutual as they will insure loose stones as long as you can show the stone information and the setting information. Or at least they used to do that.

 

[teslagirl1234]

2.09 Carat round diamond

This 2.09 carat round diamond J color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

@diamondseeker2006 what about this one to match James Allen 2.13 one? Returned blue nile stone.

 

[teslagirl1234]

@diamondseeker2006 other options but $15-16,000 so more expensive JA. These two are their True Hearts ones.

 

[teslagirl1234]

@diamondseeker2006 ?? Any thoughts on the cut of these above?

 

[teslagirl1234]

Also what is the perfect range for super ideal stones? Table 55-58? Crown angle 34.1-34.7? Pavilion 40.8? Depth 60-61.5? How would I know which stones is super ideal?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Also what is the perfect range for super ideal stones? Table 55-58? Crown angle 34.1-34.7? Pavilion 40.8? Depth 60-61.5? How would I know which stones is super ideal?

I think I listed the measurements needed above somewhere. Superideal cuts usually fall into T 55-57, D 62.0-62.3, CA 34.0-35.0, PA 40.6-40.8.

The stone that is closest to the first JA stone is this one:

2.09 Carat round diamond

This 2.09 carat round diamond J color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

Angles and diameter are close. Please note that most stones on JA and BN might not actually qualify as superideal cut if they were being sold at a superideal vendor. As in, they might not make the top ACA cut at Whiteflash, but they might fall into the second category of Expert Selection. We could tell more about cut if you ask them if they can provide ASET images, but the numbers suggest stones that should have excellent light performance, and they would be considered in the higher end of GIA Excellent cut.

 

[teslagirl1234]

I think I listed the measurements needed above somewhere. Superideal cuts usually fall into T 55-57, D 62.0-62.3, CA 34.0-35.0, PA 40.6-40.8.

The stone that is closest to the first JA stone is this one:

2.09 Carat round diamond

This 2.09 carat round diamond J color vs2 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

Angles and diameter are close. Please note that most stones on JA and BN might not actually qualify as superideal cut if they were being sold at a superideal vendor. As in, they might not make the top ACA cut at Whiteflash, but they might fall into the second category of Expert Selection. We could tell more about cut if you ask them if they can provide ASET images, but the numbers suggest stones that should have excellent light performance, and they would be considered in the higher end of GIA Excellent cut.

Most crafted by infinity High Performance Diamonds are around 61.2 so under 62 for depth. And most are 40.8 pavilion. Same with white flash. I did not see any 40.6.

Is there a tighter criteria for super ideal? Not ideal but really super ideal?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I see I did make a typo up there. Should have said 60-62.3 for depth, but 60-62.0 would be my preference if I had the choice (and I do since mine are from Whiteflash).

Every vendor has their own parameters for "superideal". If you want superideal cut, you'll need to buy from Whiteflash or CBI. If you want ideal cut, then you can look within the parameters I gave you for GIA Excellent cut which allow just slightly more options. Whiteflash uses the parameters I gave you (Table up to 58 (most will fall 55-57), CA 34-35, PA 40.6-40.9) but do stop at 62.0 for depth. But you technically could go to 62.3 if you found the right pair assuming all the other numbers were right and still get top light return.

You will see 40.6 PA when a crown angle is 34.9-35. You might see a 40.9 PA when the CA is closer to 34. Most of the stones listed on the superideal vendor pages will fall in the mid range, though. The two stones you are looking at have the 34.5 CA, 40.8 PA and all good numbers and are an excellent match. I think it's as good as you can do without going with a superideal vendor.

 

[teslagirl1234]

I see I did make a typo up there. Should have said 60-62.3 for depth, but 60-62.0 would be my preference if I had the choice (and I do since mine are from Whiteflash).

Every vendor has their own parameters for "superideal". If you want superideal cut, you'll need to buy from Whiteflash or CBI. If you want ideal cut, then you can look within the parameters I gave you for GIA Excellent cut which allow just slightly more options. Whiteflash uses the parameters I gave you (Table up to 58 (most will fall 55-57), CA 34-35, PA 40.6-40.9) but do stop at 62.0 for depth. But you technically could go to 62.3 if you found the right pair assuming all the other numbers were right and still get top light return.

You will see 40.6 PA when a crown angle is 34.9-35. You might see a 40.9 PA when the CA is closer to 34. Most of the stones listed on the superideal vendor pages will fall in the mid range, though. The two stones you are looking at have the 34.5 CA, 40.8 PA and all good numbers and are an excellent match. I think it's as good as you can do without going with a superideal vendor.

@diamondseeker2006

The earrings finally arrived! They look beautiful but feel heavy and my ear holes hurt from them (maybe as I have not worn earrings for a bit while while waiting for them). I wonder if I chose the wrong platinum setting that is too heavy? See photos. La Pousette 9.5 mm posts and backs. I think I need to have local jeweler shorten the backs a bit since when the backs click in the earrings droop a little.

Are La Pousette backs supposed to be correctly used by making sure they click into the groove, or pushing them against earlobe to make them tighter (without clicking in)? I always used them by ensuring they click in.

Went with this setting as regular basket Setting protruded too far from ear and martini drooped or went in too far and was afraid it would dig into ear piercings.

They do feel pretty heavy but look fabulous!

Both stones cut in Belgium. Most BlueNile stones come from India so far. Very happy with James Allen and pricing.

 

[teslagirl1234]

@diamondseeker2006

The earrings finally arrived! They look beautiful but feel heavy and my ear holes hurt from them (maybe as I have not worn earrings for a bit while while waiting for them). I wonder if I chose the wrong platinum setting that is too heavy? See photos. La Pousette 9.5 mm posts and backs. I think I need to have local jeweler shorten the backs a bit since when the backs click in the earrings droop a little.

Are La Pousette backs supposed to be correctly used by making sure they click into the groove, or pushing them against earlobe to make them tighter (without clicking in)? I always used them by ensuring they click in.

Went with this setting as regular basket Setting protruded too far from ear and martini drooped or went in too far and was afraid it would dig into ear piercings.

They do feel pretty heavy but look fabulous!

Both stones cut in Belgium. Most BlueNile stones come from India so far. Very happy with James Allen and pricing.

 

[Gemly]

@diamondseeker2006

The earrings finally arrived! They look beautiful but feel heavy and my ear holes hurt from them (maybe as I have not worn earrings for a bit while while waiting for them). I wonder if I chose the wrong platinum setting that is too heavy? See photos. La Pousette 9.5 mm posts and backs. I think I need to have local jeweler shorten the backs a bit since when the backs click in the earrings droop a little.

Are La Pousette backs supposed to be correctly used by making sure they click into the groove, or pushing them against earlobe to make them tighter (without clicking in)? I always used them by ensuring they click in.

Went with this setting as regular basket Setting protruded too far from ear and martini drooped or went in too far and was afraid it would dig into ear piercings.

They do feel pretty heavy but look fabulous!

Both stones cut in Belgium. Most BlueNile stones come from India so far. Very happy with James Allen and pricing.

They are so beautiful!! I can’t be of any help regarding the weight of the posts but just stopped in to say they are absolutely gorgeous!! Congratulations!!!

 

[caf]

Those are gorgeous. And look great on you. Terrific choice!

I have La Pousette backs and nothing feels heavy. But mine are in 14k white gold, 3 ctw. Have you compared your posts to others to see if they are standard length. Some people recommend those big plastic backs that don’t allow the earring to droop. Maybe try those? Or maybe it’s the posts aren’t heavy enough for the earring?

 

[Polabowla]

Omg gorgeous!
I too struggle with heavy earrings that are painful to wear. Will keep reading for ideas

 

[ice empress]

Wow wow wow! Those look fabulous on you! Congratulations and wear in good health!



What size and specs did you end up going with?

 

[mrs-b]

Beautiful set, @teslagirl1234! Your whole collection looks fabulous! Could you make a thread in SMTB pls? Your finished pieces deserve their own thread and to be seen! And the studs are the *perfect* size on you!

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[diamondseeker2006]

Absolutely gorgeous!!! You have a lovely collection! You really do need to post a new thread in Show Me the Bling for these earrings!

The platinum settings are too small to be causing the heavy feeling, so it's partly the diamonds! These look fabulous on you and it makes me want to upgrade mine!!!

I have one pair with LaPousette backs. I put the earring in my ear, position the hole in the back to the end of the post, and then I compress the sides of the back and push it as far as I possibly can toward my ear. It should not stay where it first latches or else the earring would sag. If necessary, you can use a clear plastic disc next to your ear which will also help hold up the earring.

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[gregchang35]

Wow!!! Stunning. They look great in your ears!!!

 

[KKJohnson]

LaPousette backs made my ear piercings bleed, I had to change it

 

[123ducklings]

@diamondseeker2006

The earrings finally arrived! They look beautiful but feel heavy and my ear holes hurt from them (maybe as I have not worn earrings for a bit while while waiting for them). I wonder if I chose the wrong platinum setting that is too heavy? See photos. La Pousette 9.5 mm posts and backs. I think I need to have local jeweler shorten the backs a bit since when the backs click in the earrings droop a little.

Are La Pousette backs supposed to be correctly used by making sure they click into the groove, or pushing them against earlobe to make them tighter (without clicking in)? I always used them by ensuring they click in.

Went with this setting as regular basket Setting protruded too far from ear and martini drooped or went in too far and was afraid it would dig into ear piercings.

They do feel pretty heavy but look fabulous!

Both stones cut in Belgium. Most BlueNile stones come from India so far. Very happy with James Allen and pricing.

Omg drop dead gorgeous

 

[teslagirl1234]

Absolutely gorgeous!!! You have a lovely collection! You really do need to post a new thread in Show Me the Bling for these earrings!

The platinum settings are too small to be causing the heavy feeling, so it's partly the diamonds! These look fabulous on you and it makes me want to upgrade mine!!!

I have one pair with LaPousette backs. I put the earring in my ear, position the hole in the back to the end of the post, and then I compress the sides of the back and push it as far as I possibly can toward my ear. It should not stay where it first latches or else the earring would sag. If necessary, you can use a clear plastic disc next to your ear which will also help hold up the earring.

Amazon.com: 200 Pieces Plastic Discs for Earring Backs, Clear Disc Pads to Stabilize Earrings, One Storage Box Included

Shop PinCute at the Amazon Arts, Crafts & Sewing store. Free Shipping on eligible items. Save on everyday low prices.

www.amazon.com

Just found a good local jeweler who cut the posts down (by earring side) to shorten them. Now they are perfect when patched in little groove without sagging or pointing down slightly. The jeweler polished off the deeper PLAT inscription and stuller logo on the posts. He thought that could be irritating my piercings (20 year old piercings) as the earrings were making me piercing red and almost bleeding at first. He did noticed that James Allen soldered one earring post with gold instead of platinum and corrected it. Platinum is supposed to be soldered with platinum he said. Glad he caught this!

Maybe my piercings were irritated as I wore silver earrings about 4 weeks ago that I seem to be sensitive to. Then I didn’t wear any earrings until these new ones came. Did sea salt warm water soak and they feel better. I probably just have to get used to heavier earrings. I love how they look. Lot of waiting but totally worth it.

I seem to have gotten lucky since GIA certs day Belgium so seems the stones were from there instead of cut in India. Most Blue Nile inventory seems to be from India.

Total carat weight for the set is 4.22. Super happy!

 

[teslagirl1234]

Wow wow wow! Those look fabulous on you! Congratulations and wear in good health!



What size and specs did you end up going with?

4.22 total carat weight. J color VS 1 and 2, no fluorescence. With platinum mountings and La Pousette backs I think these cost me about $26,500. Not bad for 4.22.

 

[RunningwithScissors]

These look fantastic! Love that size on you!

 

[diamondseeker2006]

You definitely make me want to upgrade mine! They are gorgeous! Glad you got your posts fixed!