Need some knowledgeable help on this diamond...

[sparkler-crazed]

Purchased this diamond, it is extremely white (can hardly believe how white with the color grade) and has great clarity and sparkle/fire...but it does have a twinning wisp, towards the top, that goes almost the entire length of the diamond and can be seen in sunlight (it''s not in a setting yet), although it is very faint, and not noticeable under other lighting conditions. Can someone give me some good, expert advice on this stone/grading, if it was a good purchase (in their opinion by the specs)-sorry, no pics, camera can''t zoom in that close and I don''t have any from the jeweler. It was under $40k.
http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=5101530627&weight=4.01

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/20/2009 4:16:44 PM
Author:sparkler-crazed
Purchased this diamond, it is extremely white (can hardly believe how white with the color grade) and has great clarity and sparkle/fire...but it does have a twinning wisp, towards the top, that goes almost the entire length of the diamond and can be seen in sunlight (it's not in a setting yet), although it is very faint, and not noticeable under other lighting conditions. Can someone give me some good, expert advice on this stone/grading, if it was a good purchase (in their opinion by the specs)-sorry, no pics, camera can't zoom in that close and I don't have any from the jeweler. It was under $40k.
http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=5101530627&weight=4.01

Hi sparkler-crazed,

Thats a big diamond!!! A diamond of this size is harder to find and if it is eyeclean in an SI grade and you like it then thats the main thing. The cut is good, not cut quite to top quality but it is what we call a fine make, so it should be a lovely stone. So you have already purchased it by the sound of it, sounds like you found a nice and very large diamond! What I would suggest is if you have questions, get an independant appraisal to get more info on your stone which is also useful for insurance purposes, here is the appraiser tool.

 

[sparkler-crazed]

Thank you for the appraisal tool

!
Yes, it is a large stone. I have a carat smaller in a fancy cut and they just look so different, maybe that''s why I am posting here...
It''s super white, but the fancy appears to have so many more facets, it''s hard to compare the two (although it''s like comparing apples to orange-diff cut, diff size - I know).
Do/can appraisers take pictures when inspecting the diamonds?

 

[sparkler-crazed]

Date: 11/20/2009 5:00:47 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 11/20/2009 4:16:44 PM

Author:sparkler-crazed

Purchased this diamond, it is extremely white (can hardly believe how white with the color grade) and has great clarity and sparkle/fire...but it does have a twinning wisp, towards the top, that goes almost the entire length of the diamond and can be seen in sunlight (it''s not in a setting yet), although it is very faint, and not noticeable under other lighting conditions. Can someone give me some good, expert advice on this stone/grading, if it was a good purchase (in their opinion by the specs)-sorry, no pics, camera can''t zoom in that close and I don''t have any from the jeweler. It was under $40k.

http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=5101530627&weight=4.01

Hi sparkler-crazed,


Thats a big diamond!!! A diamond of this size is harder to find and if it is eyeclean in an SI grade and you like it then thats the main thing. The cut is good, not cut quite to top quality but it is what we call a fine make, so it should be a lovely stone. So you have already purchased it by the sound of it, sounds like you found a nice and very large diamond! What I would suggest is if you have questions, get an independant appraisal to get more info on your stone which is also useful for insurance purposes, here is the appraiser tool.

BTW, what would make this a top quality cut? And how about for an Asscher and Princess cut?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/20/2009 10:24:38 PM
Author: sparkler-crazed

Date: 11/20/2009 5:00:47 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 11/20/2009 4:16:44 PM

Author:sparkler-crazed

Purchased this diamond, it is extremely white (can hardly believe how white with the color grade) and has great clarity and sparkle/fire...but it does have a twinning wisp, towards the top, that goes almost the entire length of the diamond and can be seen in sunlight (it's not in a setting yet), although it is very faint, and not noticeable under other lighting conditions. Can someone give me some good, expert advice on this stone/grading, if it was a good purchase (in their opinion by the specs)-sorry, no pics, camera can't zoom in that close and I don't have any from the jeweler. It was under $40k.

http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=5101530627&weight=4.01

Hi sparkler-crazed,


Thats a big diamond!!! A diamond of this size is harder to find and if it is eyeclean in an SI grade and you like it then thats the main thing. The cut is good, not cut quite to top quality but it is what we call a fine make, so it should be a lovely stone. So you have already purchased it by the sound of it, sounds like you found a nice and very large diamond! What I would suggest is if you have questions, get an independant appraisal to get more info on your stone which is also useful for insurance purposes, here is the appraiser tool.

BTW, what would make this a top quality cut? And how about for an Asscher and Princess cut?

Yes an appraiser can take photos. Your diamond is almost there cut quality wise, the crown and pavilion combo are what just knock it out of top quality for me, if the pavilion angle was a little less steep mainly, however no way to really judge the cut quality without images, if the stone is tightly cut etc. Asscher and Princess are much harder to judge for cut.

 

[sparkler-crazed]

Going to an appraiser next week. The stone was approved at the place of purchase - is it safe to assume that just about every single diamond is going to appraise for close to double what you paid (unless you bought it at a store like Tiffany''s where you pay for the blue box)??

 

[tyty333]

Please post pics when you get them

!

 

[John P]

Date: 11/21/2009 5:39:00 PM
Author: sparkler-crazed
Going to an appraiser next week. The stone was approved at the place of purchase - is it safe to assume that just about every single diamond is going to appraise for close to double what you paid (unless you bought it at a store like Tiffany's where you pay for the blue box)??

No. And if it does you may be paying for a tremendously inflated insurance premium. The diamond should appraiser for its proper value at the given moment in the given market.

For a diamond like yours it's especially important to get an accurate independent appraisal. I suggest that 15 minutes spent reading this article might save time chasing down future questions - and maybe some $ as well.

http://journal.pricescope.com/Articles/58/1/%e2%80%9cAppraise-the-Appraiser%e2%80%9d---Help-for-Consumers.aspx

 

[yssie]

Date: 11/21/2009 6:35:06 PM
Author: John Pollard

Date: 11/21/2009 5:39:00 PM
Author: sparkler-crazed
Going to an appraiser next week. The stone was approved at the place of purchase - is it safe to assume that just about every single diamond is going to appraise for close to double what you paid (unless you bought it at a store like Tiffany''s where you pay for the blue box)??

No. And if it does you may be paying for a tremendously inflated insurance premium. The diamond should appraiser for its proper value at the given moment in the given market.

For a diamond like yours it''s especially important to get an accurate independent appraisal. I suggest that 15 minutes spent reading this article might save time chasing down future questions - and maybe some $ as well.

http://journal.pricescope.com/Articles/58/1/%e2%80%9cAppraise-the-Appraiser%e2%80%9d---Help-for-Consumers.aspx

great advice from an expert.

 

[sparkler-crazed]

Date: 11/21/2009 6:35:06 PM
Author: John Pollard

Date: 11/21/2009 5:39:00 PM

Author: sparkler-crazed



For a diamond like yours it''s especially important to get an accurate independent appraisal. I suggest that 15 minutes spent reading this article might save time chasing down future questions - and maybe some $ as well.


http://journal.pricescope.com/Articles/58/1/%e2%80%9cAppraise-the-Appraiser%e2%80%9d---Help-for-Consumers.aspx

Thanks for the link...wow, now I''m wondering if I should look for a different appraiser.

 

[sparkler-crazed]

Date: 11/21/2009 6:01:04 PM
Author: tyty333
Please post pics when you get them

!

I will! I tried a few times yesterday and got a little bit better shots, but I will try again tomorrow : ) I keep looking at the stone...it is gorgeous, imo, but I still worry about the wisp and if it was really worth what I paid. It sure is white though...had I known an I would look like this, I would have gone with a J or even K and saved a little bit!
I'm having second thoughts about the cut though...I really like princess and especially asschers, but they are so hard to find.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/21/2009 8:12:20 PM
Author: sparkler-crazed

Date: 11/21/2009 6:01:04 PM
Author: tyty333
Please post pics when you get them

!

I will! I tried a few times yesterday and got a little bit better shots, but I will try again tomorrow : ) I keep looking at the stone...it is gorgeous, imo, but I still worry about the wisp and if it was really worth what I paid. It sure is white though...had I known an I would look like this, I would have gone with a J or even K and saved a little bit!
I''m having second thoughts about the cut though...I really like princess and especially asschers, but they are so hard to find.

Bear in mind a round is going to give you great bling for the buck, Asschers can face up small for the weight and good ones are hard to find, especially large ones.

 

[sparkler-crazed]

Date: 11/22/2009 5:20:16 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 11/21/2009 8:12:20 PM

Author: sparkler-crazed

Date: 11/21/2009 6:01:04 PM

Bear in mind a round is going to give you great bling for the buck, Asschers can face up small for the weight and good ones are hard to find, especially large ones.

NO KIDDING!! I can''t even find a 2+ct Asschers just to see what they look like in person! And that is one thing I hate about the 2 square cuts...sort of get ripped off by the appearance of the ct size.

 

[miraclesrule]

Do''H, tha''s a boulder!!! I can''t wait to see pictures of it.

 

[sparkler-crazed]

Well, I HAVE pics, but I can't post 'em! Help!! I am using photobucket.

 

[sparkler-crazed]

pic 1

 

[sparkler-crazed]

pic 2

 

[sparkler-crazed]

Can't attach the last one...
Does anyone agree, it's really white for an I color??? Something just doesn't look right to me. I thought it looked a little milky, not cloudy, but doesn't GIA list such "flaws"/description?

 

[sparkler-crazed]

Trying to submit more pics, but cannot get photobucket links to attach without error.

 

[LGK]

Date: 11/22/2009 4:29:55 PM
Author: sparkler-crazed
Trying to submit more pics, but cannot get photobucket links to attach without error.

Oh, you can''t link to outside photos. Gotta upload em individually from your hard drive.

It looks incredibly white.

 

[sparkler-crazed]

Oh, you can''t link to outside photos. Gotta upload em individually from your hard drive.


It looks incredibly white.

I see....well, unfortunately my computer is a mac, which I am new at (!), so I can''t reduce the pictures to attach them. Oy!
I''ll try again

 

[sparkler-crazed]

FINALLY!
Ok, see how it appears milky?
But then look at the next picture.

 

[sparkler-crazed]

looks clear. and it does in every light, and some angles in direct sunlight

 

[sparkler-crazed]

(sorry to attach one by one)

 

[sparkler-crazed]

another shot.

 

[sparkler-crazed]

last one (for now!)

 

[John P]

Some of those photos look nice.

SI2: What are all of the listed clarity characteristics and in what order are they listed? Can you scan and post the plot?

 

[sparkler-crazed]

I am having so much trouble posting pics, and all are under 25 kb and STILL they will not upload.
I will try PM'ing you with the link for the report.
Can I PM on this forum?? I have never had so much trouble on a forum like I have here!

 

[rockabee]

congrats on the huge stone! it does appear milky in some of those pics for sure. almost as if it has very strong flourescence, which would also explain why it may look whiter than normal for its color. however, on the GIA cert it says there is no flouro so go figure. could it be that we are seeing light reflecting off the twining wisp? at any rate, my only concern would be how much seeing an occlusion bothers you. if you could care less, then i say go for it!

i would encourage you to search on the boards here, in some cases, a person sees it and at first they are ok with it, but eventually it starts to bother them more and more. in other cases, people find the occlusion part of the charm and personality of their stone. i personally don''t like seeing them. i know someone who once got a 3.5ct SI1 that was not eye clean. even though it "wowed" everyone, the visible occlusions started bothering her so much she got self conscious about it and actually sold it for a smaller one that was eye clean. again, just personal preference

 

[stone-cold11]

no pm function here.

Try to rename the files. As long as the file uploaded has the same name of a file someone else uploaded before, it will fail to upload.