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Need help with a pave setting

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Hi everyone,

I just have a question regarding pave settings. If my main stone is a 0.91ct I color VS2 stone and the side stones are H colored VS2, will that detract from the main stone? Obviously I don't want the side stones to look better than the main one.

Also, my girlfriend has sort of chubby fingers. Her ring size is 6.5. I found a nice cathedral pave setting from BN but that's 1.5mm in width and I think it's probably too thin for her fingers. She's tried on some rings in B&M stores and it looks like something like the Tiffany Novo is suitable. A quick search revealed that the Novo has a width of 2-2.5mm. So I'm guessing that she would need something 2+mm in width. She also doesn't like the channel set pave settings. What was kind of disappointing was that BN in the US has a 2.2mm petite cathedral pave setting but in Canada, the petite is 1.5mm. I spoke with a BN rep through online chat and he said that the 2.2mm is not shippable to Canada because of export laws or something because they were sourced differently. It just sounded ridiculous because they're the same material! It's just the width is different.

So what do you guys think? Do you think 1.5mm would be alright for chubby fingers? I know it's probably a personal preference but I just wanted to get another opinion. Thanks again everyone!
 
This is all personal preference - have her try on some 1.5 mm and see how she feels. You can go with other vendors that will be able to make a 2mm band. If you really want to stick with BN, have you considered shipping it to a US address and driving across the border to pick it up? Not sure if you are close by the border though.
 
I would see if you can make a trip to a local B&M store and have your GF try on rings with different size shanks... 1.5mm,2.0mm, 2.5mm and get her input. You said that she tried on something like the Tiffany NOVO, but was it an actual Tiffany NOVO? Replica type settings can vary in mm width, so are you positive the one she tried on that she liked was actually 2.5mm?

Go one afternoon and have her try on different widths and find out exactly how thick the one she likes best is.
 
What size is your girl? I put a post on here recently about information that I received: a 1.5mm is very liable to break! I would go with atleast a 2mm.
 
CharmyPoo|1290318120|2774441 said:
This is all personal preference - have her try on some 1.5 mm and see how she feels. You can go with other vendors that will be able to make a 2mm band. If you really want to stick with BN, have you considered shipping it to a US address and driving across the border to pick it up? Not sure if you are close by the border though.
I'm close to Buffalo, about 2 hour drive or so but I don't know anyone that lives there. This is probably not an option.

Amys Bling|1290373876|2774794 said:
I would see if you can make a trip to a local B&M store and have your GF try on rings with different size shanks... 1.5mm,2.0mm, 2.5mm and get her input. You said that she tried on something like the Tiffany NOVO, but was it an actual Tiffany NOVO? Replica type settings can vary in mm width, so are you positive the one she tried on that she liked was actually 2.5mm?

Go one afternoon and have her try on different widths and find out exactly how thick the one she likes best is.
We were at Tiffany's, so yeah I'm pretty sure it's the actual NOVO :)

enyouartist|1290435471|2775361 said:
What size is your girl? I put a post on here recently about information that I received: a 1.5mm is very liable to break! I would go with atleast a 2mm.
Wow! 1.5mm is really that fragile? Sounds scary because she is quite rough with her things :P She is size 6.5.

Looks like I may have to look elsewhere. BN was good for me because they have their Canadian site that charges me in CAD and so I know exactly how much I will be paying. Plus they have a 30-day return policy which is great because I can take my time getting it appraised. The other thing I can do is buy the diamond loose and find someone to set it for me. But even then it's a headache because I don't know of any good ones in and around Toronto. Other than that, I may go with WF and build the entire ring.
 
enyouartist|1290435471|2775361 said:
What size is your girl? I put a post on here recently about information that I received: a 1.5mm is very liable to break! I would go with atleast a 2mm.

Actually, that really depends mainly on craftsmanship and materials used. In that post (I'm not sure how to pull it up and put it here) there were many examples of people who own 1.5mm shanks and have had no problem.

Also, finger size 6.5 is pretty average...well, I personally wouldn't consider that chubby! So, have her try on the different widths as recommended above, and see how she feels.
 
MarkBroumand|1290460123|2775778 said:
enyouartist|1290435471|2775361 said:
What size is your girl? I put a post on here recently about information that I received: a 1.5mm is very liable to break! I would go with atleast a 2mm.

Actually, that really depends mainly on craftsmanship and materials used. In that post (I'm not sure how to pull it up and put it here) there were many examples of people who own 1.5mm shanks and have had no problem.

Also, finger size 6.5 is pretty average...well, I personally wouldn't consider that chubby! So, have her try on the different widths as recommended above, and see how she feels.
Thanks for the input :)

I guess it only looks chubby because her fingers are short, as opposed to long and slender. One sales lady at a B&M we were at did comment that a wider ring would look better on her fingers when she tried on a slimmer one.
 
So I have just a few more questions. If the prongs are 18k white gold, are they prone to break? Is it worth it to upgrade to platinum prongs for an extra $150? If I upgrade, how will I know that they actually made the prongs platinum? Is there a way to verify?

Thanks everyone.
 
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I'm in a VERY similar situation. I'm just now considering setting specs (been focusing on the diamond). When we first tried on different settings, she fell in love with this one attached (Tiffany Novo replica essentially)... however it looks skinnier than the one on Tiffany's website, but that of course could just be the photograph. Apologies for the picture.... it was taken by a cell phone :)

Can anyone here get an idea as to the size of this? 2mm? Less than?

She, too, has chubby short fingers (she got them from her dad and we joke about it all the time). Yet, this ring still looked really good on her. I want a smaller setting because it makes the diamond look larger... but I don't want it fragile either!


Ignore the diamond on top (it was just a loose diamond we placed on top to see)... that was before I knew what I know now. That's a 1.87ct, J color, SI2 clarity... I'm anxious to compare it to the smaller stones I'm looking at now with Triple EX certification, H+ color, SI1 clarity (yet truly eye clean) etc etc...
 
It's hard for me to tell at least from the picture because it's up close. See if you can get that measured. I actually had my gf try on one where we were both happy with the shank width. I had them measure it and it was 2.25mm. I ended up getting a setting that was 2.2mm from James Allen. On that site, the images seem to make it look thin but if it's really 2.2mm, it's not really as thin as the picture shows. If you want to see which one I got, go on the JA site and search for 11119w. They also have a thinner version of that one that is 1.5mm.
 
I'll get it measured today (going to look at some diamonds at the same place tonight)

From the looks of the one you told me about on JA (funny, I was looking at this one the other night... we have similar tastes!) it looks like the JA one is thinner than the one in the picture I posted. But can't really tell because of the zoom, as you said.


I'm gonna guess the one in my picture is 2.5mm.... I'll let you know tonight around 8ish
 
This is a 1.5mm band on a size 5 finger that is also, unfortunately, a bit short and stubby. I would have gone wider if given the choice now that I see it, since I think it bites into my finger a little bit more than I like. Pardon the weird flash vignette my phone camera is not excellent.

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MarkBroumand|1290460123|2775778 said:
enyouartist|1290435471|2775361 said:
What size is your girl? I put a post on here recently about information that I received: a 1.5mm is very liable to break! I would go with atleast a 2mm.

Actually, that really depends mainly on craftsmanship and materials used. In that post (I'm not sure how to pull it up and put it here) there were many examples of people who own 1.5mm shanks and have had no problem.

Also, finger size 6.5 is pretty average...well, I personally wouldn't consider that chubby! So, have her try on the different widths as recommended above, and see how she feels.

:eek: I'd be careful tossing around the word chubby to describe *any* part of the FF! She might find her way to PS one day! :wink2: I'm just teasing of course. It's nice how much time you have put in to this. I like to call fingers "fleshy" over chubby. I have small hands, my ring finger is a size 4 and it's fleshy, so I think any ring size can be fleshy.

If she has short fingers/small hands that does effect what style would look best. A thick band could overwhelm her finger. I'd go under 3mm for sure if that is the case. I think 2-2.5mm would be safe. That ring looks to be over 2mm to me. It's hard to tell from pictures though.
 
My gf size is 6.5... short ummm fleshy? fingers (chubby) but she acknowledges them so it's ok!

I'm willing to bet the one in my pic is 2.5 now after seeing that 1.5 just posted.
 
lol. I hear ya, I'm disparaging to my fingers too. Short, Stubby, fleshy, etc. I have a pic or two that may help. This is my e-ring flipped around to the plain side. It tapers but at its widest it is 2.8mm.
In regards to size of "chubby" fingers, I like to size up a quarter size. I got my ering in a 4.25 because I don't want a pinched look either. As it turns out it's a smidge big and spins so I should have gone smaller but I'll just end up getting a band and it should fit tighter then. Is your girlfriend going to wear a band on the same finger? That is something to take into consideration as well.

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The strength of the shank is determined by the volume (h x w) of metal used. If there is an insufficient amount of metal, then shorter but wider bands tend to go out of round if smushed, and taller but thinner bands will tend to torque from pulling.

I have a 4.75, but I think I have the chubbiest, shortest fingers ever (10 year olds have bigger hands!) -- and i have a 1.8mm (width) x 1.7mm (height) shank. I really really wanted a 1.5mm square shank, but the guy who made the ring refused to make it that thin (bah to him) -- because I wanted to go for the POP for the center stone.

Personally, it is a bit high, and it does bite into my flesh a bit, but ... the ring absolutely does not spin and there is enough metal so that it does not torque (and I have to haul on it to get it off). On my thin days (when I haven't had any salt and it's cold outside, and I'm outside), it spins and is comfortable. Keep in mind that whatever ER shank you get, you will have to add on some shank width if she wears it stacked with her ER, which is why I went with a thinner, taller band now.
 
I have a 1.5x1.5mm e-ring with no issues. I also have a 1.3x1.4mm band ... no issues.
 
I definitely think a ring can be safe to wear even if it's delicate as long as it is well made. I think the size to choose is dependent of what width looks best on the wearer's hands.

edit: I can't formulate thoughts coherently/spell today.
 
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