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NickFXDL

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Hey everyone, I am new but I have been browsing for a few months and doing my required reading recommended on this and other sites. I think I have narrowed down what I want but I am looking for some advice on dimensions. I am looking for a Princess "very good" cut G VS2. I want to stay in the "G" color range but I am flexible on the clarity. Here are two that I have found please tell me what you think. Also if anyone has experience with white flash do you recommend them over blue nile? Thanks, -Nick

http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/Diamond_Details.aspx?idno=1725759

http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/Diamond_Details.aspx?idno=1725633
 
Is there a reason you only want a "very good" cut? Cut is really what makes a diamond perform well...you should really try and get an ideal cut to get the best performance. Cut is king.

And you don't want to buy a stone without pictures and an ASET image if possible. Check out Whiteflash's selection of ACA stones and Good Old Gold's website for starters. They have the info to really make sure your stone is well cut and thus that it will sparkle.

I would recommend WF over BN any day of the week.
 
Date: 12/8/2008 11:26:49 PM
Author: neatfreak
Is there a reason you only want a ''very good'' cut? Cut is really what makes a diamond perform well...you should really try and get an ideal cut to get the best performance. Cut is king.

And you don''t want to buy a stone without pictures and an ASET image if possible. Check out Whiteflash''s selection of ACA stones and Good Old Gold''s website for starters. They have the info to really make sure your stone is well cut and thus that it will sparkle.

I would recommend WF over BN any day of the week.
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Big ditto.
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I would like to stay in the 1.2 size range. I know I won''t be able to get an ideal cut but I''d like to get the best I can while staying around $6k for the diamond without setting. Any ideas?
 
Once set this would look just like a princess and it does not have the risk of breaking at the corners like a princess......also it has a spread of those princess cuts you posted so it will look just as large and this is a better cut so it will sparkle more and be brighter than those you listed...

http://www.whiteflash.com/xfactor/X-Factor-cut-diamond-168641.htm#
 
Date: 12/9/2008 10:47:28 AM
Author: NickFXDL
Ok, I am learning as I go so bare with me. Can you take a look at these 2 IDEAL cut diamonds and let me know what you think? Thanks, -Nick


http://www.abazias.com/database/NewDiamondInfo.asp?stock=54892252&src=builder


http://www.abazias.com/database/NewDiamondInfo.asp?stock=1687039369&src=builder


http://www.abazias.com/database/NewDiamondInfo.asp?stock=1679353960&src=builder
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Princess cuts need to be seen, not much we can tell you from just the numbers unfortunately.

And good on going for the ideal cut! The thing is that an ideal cut will have so much more presence that even if it's a bit smaller it'll APPEAR bigger than an only "good" cut stone that is technically bigger carat weight wise.
 
Date: 12/9/2008 10:48:57 AM
Author: neatfreak

Date: 12/9/2008 10:47:28 AM
Author: NickFXDL
Ok, I am learning as I go so bare with me. Can you take a look at these 2 IDEAL cut diamonds and let me know what you think? Thanks, -Nick


http://www.abazias.com/database/NewDiamondInfo.asp?stock=54892252&src=builder


http://www.abazias.com/database/NewDiamondInfo.asp?stock=1687039369&src=builder


http://www.abazias.com/database/NewDiamondInfo.asp?stock=1679353960&src=builder

Princess cuts need to be seen, not much we can tell you from just the numbers unfortunately.

And good on going for the ideal cut! The thing is that an ideal cut will have so much more presence that even if it''s a bit smaller it''ll APPEAR bigger than an only ''good'' cut stone that is technically bigger carat weight wise.
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Ditto, can you ask Abazias if these are in house diamonds, so they can provide photographs and an ASET image if possible?
 
See, I knew you guys (and gals) would say that so I have one of the reps chasing down pics and an ASET image for me. Should be here by the end of the day.
 
Date: 12/9/2008 10:54:01 AM
Author: NickFXDL
See, I knew you guys (and gals) would say that so I have one of the reps chasing down pics and an ASET image for me. Should be here by the end of the day.
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PERFECT! Great job Nick!
 
Date: 12/9/2008 10:54:01 AM
Author: NickFXDL
See, I knew you guys (and gals) would say that so I have one of the reps chasing down pics and an ASET image for me. Should be here by the end of the day.
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ROFL!!!
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Date: 12/11/2008 9:19:44 AM
Author: NickFXDL
Well, Abazias is dragging their feet on providing pictures but I did find 3 others I would like to hear your opinions on. Thanks.


http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Princess-Diamond-1198977.asp


http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Princess-Diamond-1118508.asp


http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VVS2-Ideal-Cut-Princess-Diamond-1120287.asp
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Sorry, you know what's coming, we need ASET's or at least Idealscopes to make a real judgement...but just generally I am not loving that H VVS2 and I'd rather see you spend your money on color than clarity in a princess.
 
Date: 12/9/2008 10:47:28 AM
Author: NickFXDL
Ok, I am learning as I go so bare with me. Can you take a look at these 2 IDEAL cut diamonds and let me know what you think? Thanks, -Nick

http://www.abazias.com/database/NewDiamondInfo.asp?stock=54892252&src=builder

http://www.abazias.com/database/NewDiamondInfo.asp?stock=1687039369&src=builder

http://www.abazias.com/database/NewDiamondInfo.asp?stock=1679353960&src=builder
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Abazias has the following explanatory remark about their store cut-grade:

"The cut grade indicated is a generalization based off the depth and table proportions as they compare to the American Standard Cut Grade Charts and is not indicative of the overall cut grade that will be awarded by the independent gemological laboratories."

In other words, we have based a cut-grade on 2 measurements only, being table size and total depth.

Compared to some other sites, they at least indicate that they base their store cut-grade on close-to-nothing.

Live long,
 
Date: 12/11/2008 9:30:26 AM
Author: NickFXDL
That is what I am thinking about the H. I wanted to narrow it down as much as possible before asking for the ASET. Take a look at this one also and let me know what you think. Although its an SI1 it looks clean, what do you think?


http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/Princess-cut-diamond-912097.htm#
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I''m not really liking that one. Pattern doesn''t look symmetrical and there appears to be more leakage than I''d like to see. But I don''t think it would be horrible.
 
Date: 12/11/2008 9:19:44 AM
Author: NickFXDL
Well, Abazias is dragging their feet on providing pictures but I did find 3 others I would like to hear your opinions on. Thanks.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Princess-Diamond-1198977.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Princess-Diamond-1118508.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VVS2-Ideal-Cut-Princess-Diamond-1120287.asp

Added one more

http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/Princess-cut-diamond-912097.htm#
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The first stone is the same as one of the Abazias-stones.

With jamesallen, I still need to find an explanation, what the store-cut-grade is based upon.

Live long,
 
Date: 12/11/2008 9:19:44 AM
Author: NickFXDL
Well, Abazias is dragging their feet on providing pictures but I did find 3 others I would like to hear your opinions on. Thanks.


http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Princess-Diamond-1198977.asp


http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Ideal-Cut-Princess-Diamond-1118508.asp


http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VVS2-Ideal-Cut-Princess-Diamond-1120287.asp


Added one more


http://www.whiteflash.com/princess/Princess-cut-diamond-912097.htm#
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looking at the pics I don''t think any of the 4 has a chance of being AGS ideal performance.
 
I urge you to go with a WF ACA princess cut. You will NOT be sorry! :) I LOVE mine.
 
What do you think of this ideal scope?

This is the actual pic of the diamond.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diampics/15836564PIC.JPG


Carat weight: 1.24
Cut: Ideal
Color: G
Clarity: VS1
Certificate: GIA
Depth: 68.4%
Table: 67.0%
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Good
Girdle: Medium to slightly thick
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 6.05*5.88*4.02
Ratio: 1.03

1198977A.JPG
 
How about this one?

Shape: Princess
Carat weight: 1.21
Cut: Ideal
Color: F
Clarity: VS2
Certificate: GIA
Depth: 72.8%
Table: 69.0%
Polish: Good
Symmetry: Good
Girdle: Medium
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 5.70*5.82*4.15
Ratio: 1.02

This is the actual pic of the diamond.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diampics/15836564PIC.JPG

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Hey, Nick, you linked the same picture twice. But whichever stone that was, I wouldn''t buy it!
 
I prefer the IS and "real" picture of the F.
 
As do I. I have narrowed it down to 2 of them, this F and another F I am currently waiting on an IS and ASET for. Keep the opinions coming but I will start a new thread with the new pictures when I have them all. I appreciate everyone''s help and insight.
 
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