Loose diamond advice - Large Oval

[Goose682]

So I previously posted about a couple diamonds that were being sold in settings, and I got some great advice, but some advice was targeted at the setting. I’m just tying to focus my search solely to loose diamonds and then I’ll have someone like SK or VC (I know VC sometimes won’t set diamonds he doesn’t source himself) do the setting. Some options I’m considering are:

Option 1:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/4.01-carat-d-color-vs2-clarity-sku-5458647 - 12.4x8.94 (1.39 LW ratio, 4.01ct, D color, VS2)

Option 2: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/3.73-carat-h-color-vvs2-clarity-sku-6602930 - 12.8x8.43 (1.52 LW ratio, 3.73ct, H color, VVS2)

Option 3: https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/4.03-carat-g-color-vs1-clarity-sku-8241542 - 13.28x8.93 (1.49 LW ratio, 4.03ct, G color, VS1)

I’ve reached out to distinctive gems and he hasn’t got back to me. It’s so hard for me to tell how fiery or brilliant a stone will be from these little 360 videos.

My concerns with each stone are:
- The H color makes me nervous. We are going to set the diamond we choose in a simple thin pave band but I want a chunky eternity wedding band. Also, its LW ratio (1.52) is a hair longer than I hoped for.

- The D has strong fluorescence (which could very well not be an issue, and James Allen has a good return policy) and its LW is a hair shorter than the 1.4-1.5 I was aiming for. Besides that, it’s gorgeous.

- The G has strong fluorescence (same comment above for the D- could be totally fine and 30 day return policy). Its proportions and LW ratio are perfect and very much what I want, however, the color seems MORE colorful than the H above, or am I crazy? I want it to face up white AND not look colorful against a nice thick eternity wedding band. ALSO— depth is 57.3% and I’ve heard that can make the diamond look dead and not return light well.

Any advice would be very much appreciated. Would love opinions on brilliance/fire and addressing my concerns on color. Thanks!

 

[tyty333]

FYI...here is the relative size difference/shape between the 3.73 and the 4.01 on a size 6 finger 2mm shank

3.73ct Oval (12.8×8.42×5.14) vs 4.01ct Oval (12.42×8.94×5.45)

Compare 3.73 carat Oval (12.8×8.42×5.14mm) vs 4.01 carat Oval (12.42×8.94×5.45mm) on actual diamond size and finger coverage (88.38mm² vs 91.05mm²)

www.diamdb.com

That H has really nice light return.

Edit...I think you may want to buy a low set wedding band and have your ring made to fit over it or, have whoever makes your ering setting also
make your wedding band. I would also suggest Maytel Hannah. She does a lot of oval and fancy shape settings.

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[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

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[Goose682]

FYI...here is the relative size difference/shape between the 3.73 and the 4.01 on a size 6 finger 2mm shank

3.73ct Oval (12.8×8.42×5.14) vs 4.01ct Oval (12.42×8.94×5.45)

Compare 3.73 carat Oval (12.8×8.42×5.14mm) vs 4.01 carat Oval (12.42×8.94×5.45mm) on actual diamond size and finger coverage (88.38mm² vs 91.05mm²)

www.diamdb.com

That H has really nice light return.

Edit...I think you may want to buy a low set wedding band and have your ring made to fit over it or, have whoever makes your ering setting also
make your wedding band. I would also suggest Maytel Hannah. She does a lot of oval and fancy shape settings.

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Do you think the H has significantly better light return than the D? How colorful is the H going to look next to an eternity band that is likely F/G stones?

 

[AV_]

The D is also the nicest cut. Its fluorescence is a perk.

 

[Goose682]

The D is also the nicest cut. Its fluorescence is a perk.

Interesting, so as long as it’s not hazy/oily looking you prefer fluorescence? I’ve read so many mixed things about people avoiding it like the plague and some people loving it. Can it effect the appraisal?

 

[AV_]

I find blue fluorescence in D / E obviously beautiful - & it is difficult to understand why it is thought to be associated with haze / texture as there are many diamonds with both, or with either texture or obvious blue fluorescence but not both.

The GIA SB or VSB D/E are discounted these days & I would not ask of appraisers to make predictions, the history of value of fluorescent colourless has swung fast enough [but I really am very biased for such a stone!]

 

[AV_]

ctd.

I have not seen these either, but - perhaps worth asking for whatever images there might exist? I am curious enough to write: www & www

The stones may well be available to any seller, or the jeweller who will make the ring.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

H will show yellowish in the crushed ice zones and white in the mid section - and that looks yucky

 

[Goose682]

H will show yellowish in the crushed ice zones and white in the mid section - and that looks yucky

Do you like how the D is cut? Also, thoughts on the G? I received an ASSET image for it today. Does it look like it will show yellow like the H?

 

[Goose682]

ctd.

I have not seen these either, but - perhaps worth asking for whatever images there might exist? I am curious enough to write: www & www

The stones may well be available to any seller, or the jeweller who will make the ring.

That was my hope as well but I can’t find them on any of the websites. The only issue is I’d like to see which stone we purchase in person first to make sure the color (if it’s a G or H) and fluorescence (the D and G) isn’t an issue, and if we purchase from a jeweler I’m not sure if that’s possible as a vendor to jeweler doesn’t necessarily have a return policy like a store to consumer, right?

 

[AV_]

I assume that you would still be able to arrange returns. It is quite customary to see options at a local third party - this is the good old way, returns are reatively news to me [years old news & there is ever more of this service - eg. ever more extreme www]

About the two ovals mentioned last: it may take asking for images that may well be available for private communication, but not for listing [or so I think.]

 

[AV_]

Digressing,

I did look over all the dozen listings of diamonds in the range already defined & over 3.5 cts, the strongest impression: there are so few! After three carats, the number of options drops so steeply, I am wondering where are these things.

tbc

 

[Goose682]

Digressing,

I did look over all the dozen listings of diamonds in the range already defined & over 3.5 cts, the strongest impression: there are so few! After three carats, the number of options drops so steeply, I am wondering where are these things.

tbc

This is where my frustration is coming from, I feel like there really aren’t that many “great” options. Do you not like any of the options I posted about above? I feel like they are the better 3 of what I’ve seen listed on bluenile, brilliant earth, whiteflash (can’t tell because there aren’t videos), adiamore, yadav, etc.

 

[AV_]

I feel like there really aren’t that many “great” options. Do you not like any of the options I posted about above? I feel like they are the better 3 of what I’ve seen listed

I may have idiot expectations for $60K - I'd want to be delighted, of course, and perhaps the D comes close as D/Sb.-Vsb. are a weakness.

Then, I did look at many ovals over three carats, less than 70K - just for cut, and ended up with a list of two three carat stones - www & www, one quite bright (I see the three armed feather on the table, sure enough - expecting a bright speck the size of -' ) one less so but evenly glittery & of interesting long shape.

All in all, I would always wish to see pictures and videos of the other D & E fluorescent four carat ovals.

 

[AV_]

ctd.

There was a long list of oval diamonds listed by Art of Platinum last autumn - I wonder if any are still there, eg. www