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Looking for 2 carat pear

I emailed GOG yesterday, but got an automated response that they're closed Sundays and Mondays. I'll let you all know when I hear back from them!

Niel - I think anthenaworth's ring looks great! I think the yellow gold does an amazing job of framing the yellow diamond within the halo. I'll send this over to my girlfriend and see what she has to say, although I think she's definitely still leaning toward a colorless stone. I think a large stone with a halo might be a bit too much for her, though - she's a short girl with fingers to match, and when I had her try on a 3 ct pear with a halo, it looked a bit overpowering on her finger. Also, I think the 3 ct yellow is a bit chubby for her taste - yesterday I spoke with her and showed her a range of diamonds with different ratios, and she decided that 1.6 is her sweet spot, +/- .1

CharmyPoo - it's a shame that Amethyste's ring is sold - I think that, at 5 ct, she would swoon at the sight of the stone even if she wanted colorless!

ariel144 - thanks for the recommendations!! I had a look through JA before, but I didn't see those stones because I had been setting the depth/table parameters according to the specs listed on the PS pear page. I think some of these pears might be a bit too chubby, but I'll definitely have a look through your suggestions and ask JA for some ASETs. And as for the Christie's suggestion, seems perfect! By the way, can I borrow a few million? :saint:

WillyDiamond - I had actually originally suggested that she go to the diamond district and see what she could find, but she's not really the type who enjoys haggling in high pressure environments. But if you do have any suggestions of places she should check out, I'd definitely pass those along to her.

Thanks for all the great feedback everyone! I'll let you know what my SO says about all these great colored diamonds you're showing me, but I'm guessing she'll still end up wanting colorless. Another thing I was thinking is that, assuming my girlfriend goes to GOG in person, I'd ask them to show her a really great H&A round cut so she can decide for sure that she'd rather have a pear shape than the round's extra sparkle.
 
PussInBoots|1367271584|3436905 said:
I emailed GOG yesterday, but got an automated response that they're closed Sundays and Mondays. I'll let you all know when I hear back from them!

Niel - I think anthenaworth's ring looks great! I think the yellow gold does an amazing job of framing the yellow diamond within the halo. I'll send this over to my girlfriend and see what she has to say, although I think she's definitely still leaning toward a colorless stone. I think a large stone with a halo might be a bit too much for her, though - she's a short girl with fingers to match, and when I had her try on a 3 ct pear with a halo, it looked a bit overpowering on her finger. Also, I think the 3 ct yellow is a bit chubby for her taste - yesterday I spoke with her and showed her a range of diamonds with different ratios, and she decided that 1.6 is her sweet spot, +/- .1

CharmyPoo - it's a shame that Amethyste's ring is sold - I think that, at 5 ct, she would swoon at the sight of the stone even if she wanted colorless!

ariel144 - thanks for the recommendations!! I had a look through JA before, but I didn't see those stones because I had been setting the depth/table parameters according to the specs listed on the PS pear page. I think some of these pears might be a bit too chubby, but I'll definitely have a look through your suggestions and ask JA for some ASETs. And as for the Christie's suggestion, seems perfect! By the way, can I borrow a few million? :saint:

WillyDiamond - I had actually originally suggested that she go to the diamond district and see what she could find, but she's not really the type who enjoys haggling in high pressure environments. But if you do have any suggestions of places she should check out, I'd definitely pass those along to her.

Thanks for all the great feedback everyone! I'll let you know what my SO says about all these great colored diamonds you're showing me, but I'm guessing she'll still end up wanting colorless. Another thing I was thinking is that, assuming my girlfriend goes to GOG in person, I'd ask them to show her a really great H&A round cut so she can decide for sure that she'd rather have a pear shape than the round's extra sparkle.

Graf is not in the Diamond District, you wont get high pressure there, it is on Madison Ave in the 60's, I believe.
My suggestion was to look there to see style, probably not to buy. The prices at Graf are in the stratosphere. Best of luck.
 
OK I know she is color sensitive, but sense she "just looking at some MRB at good old gold. Have her look at this too
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9581/

Color holds more in a pest and is less flattering than old cuts, and this will be flashy as all get out. And its in budget. So maybe just have her look at it. See his she feels. No harm right :wink2:
 
That's a great looking diamond, Niel! I just spoke to my girlfriend, though, and after showing her all those interesting yellow pears and also suggesting that she might consider a round, she really had at me, saying that it's my responsibility to pick it out and that I'm ruining all the surprise :(sad

Probably this means that I'll just end up getting her a colorless pear, since I think that that's the safest bet if she's not going to see the stone first. Hopefully GOG will get back to me tomorrow, and I'll also be contacting JA soon to inquire about ariel144's suggestions. Thanks, everyone, for all your help so far!
 
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I heard back from GOG today - I was bit surprised to be told that, for them to bring in diamonds for me to consider, they require a non-refundable deposit. Is this to be expected? Because I've never purchased a diamond before, I'm not sure what's standard practice. If PS is convinced, though, that GOG is the right vendor for the job, then I'll put down the deposit ::)
So should I take the plunge?
 
Just do it.
 
It's expensive and time consuming for vendors to call in stones and evaluate them so yes, some are now charging a fee to do so, of course the fee is applied to the purchase should you decide to buy. GOG spends lots of time doing light performance testing on the stone as well providing videos and photos. It's money well spent I think.

I adore fancy yellow diamonds, but I'm not sure that I'd want one for my forever ering...I think that you are smart to decide on colorless....purchase her a beautiful fancy yellow for a special occasion in the future! :naughty:
 
Yes, she should look at the performance of an AVR and AVC...seeing is believing:
L color AVR vs I color MRB Hearts and Arrows vs. J color AVC:
http://vimeo.com/9868723

Pears are beautiful but not always the best performing stones as seen in all the ASETS of pears that I have looked at.

If she is still looking at other types of cuts I would definitely consider the AVR's and AVC's. They are uniquely cut with those chunky facets and outperform most other stones on the market IMO.
 
Thanks for the motivation, everyone! I'm going to email them right now and tell them to go ahead. :))

Christina... - I feel exactly the same way. I think for now it's good to go with something more traditional, then, at some point down the line, get her maybe a fancy yellow diamond pendant.

Niel - Thanks for the link! I hadn't seen that before, and the videos there are definitely very interesting.

ariel144 - It's kind of a tough situation, I think. It seems like she might be open to different shapes - we talked about it last night and she commented how, until around 3 years ago, she had always wanted a round. We have, however, been to several jewelers where she has tried on both pears and rounds and she does seem to prefer the pear shape. I think the main concern is just that, she might feel right now that she likes the pear, but 5 years from now she may wish she had gotten a round. She's the indecisive type, though, and every time I broach the issue of a non-pear shape she complains to me that I'm just making the process harder for her. I'm really torn between: just making the executive decision of the pear since she seems to prefer it, or trying to convince her to go to GOG in person and try on both some pears and some of their best cut rounds within budget. (I wonder whether she'd tend toward the round if she could try one on that really sparkled. I sent her the video you linked to, but she said she'd really need to see it on her finger to form an opinion.) I suppose I'm just not sure whether trying to expose her to non-pear choices would be more helpful or hurtful. Also, she has expressed some reluctance to see the final diamond candidates at all, so that the ring will be a surprise when she sees it for the first time. Like I said, a tough situation! :confused:
 
My solution to that would be a round with pear sides. You get the shape of the pear in the sides but the sparkle and timeless shape of the rounds.



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Eta. Sorry wrong pic. Hard to do on my phone :oops:
 
Also an easy way to get around her not wanting to know what she's looking st are candidates, just tell her they aren't. :Up_to_something: a little white lie never hurt anybody. And she won't even realize the stone is the same once its set.
 
I'm just putting it out there as a former 1.44 pear holder. The reason why the round stone is the most popular and maiintains its value is because it is the most desirable and classic cut. I bored of my pear with in the first three years of married and ended up making it a pendant and getting an emerald cut.

I buy diamonds and the resale of pear is significantly lower than rounds. I bought a IGI E si1 1 carat today for $1,600 from a customer that had it appraised for $10,000 from IGI.

Not that any one wants to think about selling or upgrading before they even get engaged but having a round brillant is so versitile and the pear not so much...
 
Niel|1367526371|3438992 said:
My solution to that would be a round with pear sides. You get the shape of the pear in the sides but the sparkle and timeless shape of the rounds.



pears.png

Eta. Sorry wrong pic. Hard to do on my phone :oops:
i second this!! she will be totally surprised!
 
heididdl|1367539572|3439104 said:
I'm just putting it out there as a former 1.44 pear holder. The reason why the round stone is the most popular and maiintains its value is because it is the most desirable and classic cut. I bored of my pear with in the first three years of married and ended up making it a pendant and getting an emerald cut.

I buy diamonds and the resale of pear is significantly lower than rounds. I bought a IGI E si1 1 carat today for $1,600 from a customer that had it appraised for $10,000 from IGI.

Not that any one wants to think about selling or upgrading before they even get engaged but having a round brillant is so versitile and the pear not so much...

Yes, good point too about resale...was told by a diamond buyer that he pays premiums for estate round and cushions and if my 2.1c radiant had been a cushion he would have given me close to what i paid for it. Another jeweler told me he could not give away marquis cuts, although at one time they were very popular. (Ha, ha, my daughter loves marquis since she saw one in the movie The Great Gatsby...her engagement ring is an emerald cut.)

Rounds and cushions hold their value a lot better it seems, that's why i recommended the OP getting an AVR which will still be unique and well performing round.
The suggestion of getting pear side stones was a good one. The OP's fiancé sounds like she wants to be surprised.
 
ariel144 and Niel - I showed her your suggestions, but she's not really a big fan of the three-stone look. Also, Niel, I like your idea about just not telling her that they're the final candidates. I was talking it over with one of my friends, and she had a similar thought - that I show the pictures to one of my SO's friends, then have that friend show it to my SO under the pretense of that they're just of some random internet diamond :halo:

Good news, though: I've convinced her to go to GOG in person, so she's going to visit in two weeks from now. I'm going to ask the staff to show her some pears, some H&A rounds, some AVRs, and maybe even some AVCs. If the final candidate pears are in by that time, then she'll get to see them, otherwise I'll either pick without her or ask that she return for another visit :sun:

Thanks for the help! I'll share what GOG shows me as the stones come in, but Jon is currently on vacation, so it may be a few extra days.
 
Thats great! now at least she will go in with her eyes wide open. Shell know what colors in the GIA grading that she can handle, and in a no pressure situation she can compare pears and other cuts. Im sure they wont pressure her regardless, but especially if they know they are just getting recon for you to alter make a decision
 
My thoughts exactly! The only potential hitch is that GOG might do some legwork to bring in a few pears, and then my SO might decide she wants another shape (although I think she'll end up sticking with the pear) - but that's what the deposit's for, I suppose :)
 
I would assume the deposit will be applied to any purchase, even if she chooses another shape.
 
I would assume this, as well - I just meant that the folks at GOG might end up having to do the work of essentially picking two diamonds if we get started on the pears and then she changes her mind, but I don't think it'll really be an issue.
 
Thanks for the link, Niel! Actually that jeweler is on LI - maybe I'll ask my girlfriend if she wants to see it! Also, I agree with you about the deposit - I'm not that worried about it, it was just a thought that I had.
 
oh i really hope you get that, perfect size and price and cut, oh its too good!
 
OK so my SO is going to take a look at the diamond Niel and CharmyPoo linked to when the jeweler gets the stone back from GIA, and I'm waiting on two or three ASETs from JA (probably coming tomorrow or Friday). In the meantime, I'll probably still put down a deposit at GOG tomorrow so I can keep the ball rolling there, too. I haven't done it yet because Jon has been on vacation through today, but my feeling is that the deposit is a small price to pay to keep my options open in case my SO doesn't like the other diamonds, especially since GOG has such a great reputation for fancy shapes.
 
I think Jon is great but that ebay diamond is too amazing. I wouldn't even think twice.
 
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