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Mreader said:
OMG @telephone89 that interview- lol I agree w Oliver as a reporter don’t move on haha it’s so obvious he’s wrong.
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Right? It seemed like he was trying to cover for him. Nah, let him talk and sink himself :lol:
 

White House’s Stephen Miller: ‘We are actively looking at’ suspending habeas corpus​

"White House deputy chief of staff for policy Stephen Miller said Friday that the... administration is ‘actively looking at’ suspending habeas corpus, the right to challenge the legality of a person’s detention by the government. Miller’s comment came in response to a White House reporter who asked about ... entertaining the idea of suspending the writ of habeas corpus to deal with the problem of illegal immigration into the United States."

www.msnbc.com

White House’s Stephen Miller: ‘We are actively looking at’ suspending habeas corpus

Miller claimed the U.S. can suspend the right to challenge the legality of a person’s detention “in time of invasion.”
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The wiki def in case you aren't a lawyer: Habeas corpus is a legal procedure by which a report can be made to a court alleging the unlawful detention or imprisonment of an individual, and requesting that the court order the individual's custodian to bring the prisoner to court, to determine whether their detention is lawful.

That's f-ing insane. Someone on twitter called it a soft launch into martial law.
 
telephone89 said:

White House’s Stephen Miller: ‘We are actively looking at’ suspending habeas corpus​

"White House deputy chief of staff for policy Stephen Miller said Friday that the... administration is ‘actively looking at’ suspending habeas corpus, the right to challenge the legality of a person’s detention by the government. Miller’s comment came in response to a White House reporter who asked about ... entertaining the idea of suspending the writ of habeas corpus to deal with the problem of illegal immigration into the United States."

www.msnbc.com

White House’s Stephen Miller: ‘We are actively looking at’ suspending habeas corpus

Miller claimed the U.S. can suspend the right to challenge the legality of a person’s detention “in time of invasion.”
www.msnbc.com www.msnbc.com

The wiki def in case you aren't a lawyer: Habeas corpus is a legal procedure by which a report can be made to a court alleging the unlawful detention or imprisonment of an individual, and requesting that the court order the individual's custodian to bring the prisoner to court, to determine whether their detention is lawful.

That's f-ing insane. Someone on twitter called it a soft launch into martial law.
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I really don’t know how we are going to get through this.
 
telephone89 said:
Mayor of Newark arrested after protesting at the ICE detainment center. They love to see POC in cuffs.

www.ctvnews.ca

Mayor Baraka of Newark, New Jersey, arrested at immigration detention center he has been protesting

Newark, N.J., Mayor Ras Baraka was arrested Friday at an federal immigration detention centre where he was protesting its opening, a U.S. federal prosecutor said.
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A message is being sent. Loud and clear.
I have been listening to a podcast about the 1936 Olympics. It’s called “Revisionist history”
Hundreds of thousands of people protested US participation in the games. Jesse Owens was the star. But instead of proving the Arian race wasn’t the best, the games served to legitimize the Nazi regime.

In 1936, Los Angeles was as segregated as Mississippi.
Apparently the Nazis studied how the US justified segregation as a legal matter.
It’s all so chilling. Eerie…. looking at what’s going on right now.
 
Rockdiamond said:
A message is being sent. Loud and clear.
I have been listening to a podcast about the 1936 Olympics. It’s called “Revisionist history”
Hundreds of thousands of people protested US participation in the games. Jesse Owens was the star. But instead of proving the Arian race wasn’t the best, the games served to legitimize the Nazi regime.

In 1936, Los Angeles was as segregated as Mississippi.
Apparently the Nazis studied how the US justified segregation as a legal matter.
It’s all so chilling. Eerie…. looking at what’s going on right now.
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It just keeps getting worse. And all the people who said it was NBD, I wonder what they think now? Like how far in the "First They Came" poem do we have to get before people decide it's enough?
 
telephone89 said:
It just keeps getting worse. And all the people who said it was NBD, I wonder what they think now? Like how far in the "First They Came" poem do we have to get before people decide it's enough?
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Have you seen the video in MA of the teen running after her mom who was arrested, and they knock the girl down and arrest her, too? It's sickening. I keep having to remind myself that we're only a few months in to this. They are censoring, threatening, and arresting anyone who speaks out.

You know what's really frightening? Only a few in Congress are putting up a fight. Why? Why aren't they outraged, regardless of political affiliation? It's about being human, our basic rights, laws, the foundations of this country -- and treating people with respect and dignity.
 
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Everyone should be outraged.

@Mreader, Please know you aren’t the only one wondering how we are going to get thru this.
 
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Apparently we’re already at the end of the poem. Newark Mayor arrested???
Small news.
Alcatraz. Now that’s important!
Habeas Corpus? That’s really old thinking.
Who can stop this?
We did hold up groovy signs. That should have done the trick
I fear we’re just way too late.
 
I wrote a post late last night about what happened in NJ yesterday, deleting it due to wondering if I crossed a line. I was extremely upset after watching the news. Many Ice personnel had their faces covered up. If any of these people approached me on the street I would have been terrified. I felt sick watching the video. Between this and watching what they did to a 16 year old girl who was trying to be with her mom, I hate what is happening. Is this the new normal for American now? Are we supposed to accept cruelty?
 
Calliecake said:
I wrote a post late last night about what happened in NJ yesterday, deleting it due to wondering if I crossed a line. I was extremely upset after watching the news. Many Ice personnel had their faces covered up. If any of these people approached me on the street I would have been terrified. I felt sick watching the video. Between this and watching what they did to a 16 year old girl who was trying to be with her mom, I hate what is happening. Is this the new normal for American now? Are we supposed to accept cruelty?
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Unfortunately, over 77 million people willingly chose it.
 
RMOO said:
Unfortunately, over 77 million people willingly chose it.
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This is the saddest and most difficult thing for me because so many either didn't vote or voted for other parties. The popular vote victory was 1.5 percent one of the smallest ever, the candidate failed to secure the majority of the popular vote and had only a handful larger electoral college votes than his predecessor. Not a blowout victory by any means and it shows how important it is for everyone to vote.
 
Y’all are freaking out over the suspension of habeus corpus and it hasn’t even happened yet. :roll2:

It’s clearly a strategy to negotiate even bigger and better rights for everyone. Wait and see!

</sarcasm>
 
A federal judge ordered his release, of course the admin ignored it as the deadline to appeal came and went, the judge pushed back the deadline (why?!) a few hours, so we will see.
 
How quaint all this precursor looks in such short time.
Look what has spiraled from this.
You can't be both victim and aggressor.
 
I’m proud of our judicial system working in this case to spring someone from detention who was being held in captivity on dubious charges. I strongly disagree with holding visa holders indefinitely, and this is being done broadly (see documentation on the Canadian who was held. I can confirm same detention has been done to even more totally innocent Visa holders.)

However, according to a Democracy Now video, Khalil Mahmoud went right back to protesting with hundreds of others at Columbia yesterday. He said “ I am first and foremost a Palestinian” and he will go on protesting against this genocide (paraphrased).

I’m not sure why he is here other than to do that. What is his job? How is he supporting his family? Why did he come here? What does he intend to do in America when he is first and foremost a Palestinian. What resources is he taking from people who actually want to be in America as Americans? His records show his paperwork was expedited by the authorities when he was getting in a few years ago. A Progressive US Representative escorted him back to Manhattan. FYI, the authorities that supported him did not go to bat for real Americans being held overseas, even with lobbying efforts. Look up the case of Gonzalo Lira who died in a Ukrainian prison.

I think Mahmoud’s behavior is off. Even if I agree with his sentiment that there are human rights abuses that must stop, and I agree with the right to protest, I think someone who goes right back to hundreds of protesters, many foreign and Visa holders, who he’s been leading to disrupt classes, before going back to his own newborn child and wife for even a day, um, there’s something VERY VERY off about this.

We, the USA, should not be letting foreign actors into our country who will inspire and be proud of first their foreign nationality and second of anarchy. They are taking advantage of our freedoms and system which prioritizes freedom and justice, and turning it on us.

Sorry if this sounds harsh. I supported his release and still do because we’ve got to bolster checks and balances for Visa holders. But now I saw this. What he is up to is to destabilize our system and take advantage of it.
 
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LightBright said:
I’m proud of our judicial system working in this case to spring someone from detention who was being held in captivity on dubious charges. I strongly disagree with holding visa holders indefinitely, and this is being done broadly (see documentation on the Canadian who was held. I can confirm same detention has been done to even more totally innocent Visa holders.)

However, according to a Democracy Now video, Khalil Mahmoud went right back to protesting with hundreds of others at Columbia yesterday. He said “ I am first and foremost a Palestinian” and he will go on protesting against this genocide (paraphrased).

I’m not sure why he is here other than to do that. What is his job? How is he supporting his family? Why did he come here? What does he intend to do in America when he is first and foremost a Palestinian. What resources is he taking from people who actually want to be in America as Americans? His records show his paperwork was expedited by the authorities when he was getting in a few years ago. A Progressive US Representative escorted him back to Manhattan. FYI, the authorities that supported him did not go to bat for real Americans being held overseas, even with lobbying efforts. Look up the case of Gonzalo Lira who died in a Ukrainian prison.

I think Mahmoud’s behavior is off. Even if I agree with his sentiment that there are human rights abuses that must stop, and I agree with the right to protest, I think someone who goes right back to hundreds of protesters, many foreign and Visa holders, who he’s been leading to disrupt classes, before going back to his own newborn child and wife for even a day, um, there’s something VERY VERY off about this.

We, the USA, should not be letting foreign actors into our country who will inspire and be proud of first their foreign nationality and second of anarchy. They are taking advantage of our freedoms and system which prioritizes freedom and justice, and turning it on us.

Sorry if this sounds harsh. I supported his release and still do because we’ve got to bolster checks and balances for Visa holders. But now I saw this. What he is up to is to destabilize our system and take advantage of it.
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I guess I don't see what the issue is for him continuing to protest. He felt like he was illegally imprisoned for speaking out against the genocide against palestinians. Why wouldn't the first (or second) thing he do once freed be to continue the fight? I mean, he wasn't even charged with a real crime. And held illegally for over three months. If anything, I'd guess this would have made him angrier and feel even stronger about protesting.

He's an international student, studying in the USA and held a valid visa. Your assertation that he isn't american enough to do so is... odd. Many people call themselves "palestinian american" or "mexican american" or whatever, that doesn't mean that they should be kicked out.

As for how he "supports his family", I believe his wife is a dentist.
 
What I find really off is watching children and journalists burning outside hospitals, civilians tied to IDF vehicles as human shields, healthcare workers shot and buried in shallow graves, and desperate people lured by the promise of aid and being shot.

If this is the amount of disgust and heartbreak I feel as an observer, I can’t imagine what it’s like to see it live streamed as it happens to family and friends. Disrupting a few classes over it seems pretty damn restrained to me.

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@JPie thst is a “news” source known for outrageous lies
Fyi


Al Jazeera Media Network is owned and funded by the Qatari government, specifically the Qatari family… critics often point to the financial and political influence of the Qatari state. The network's chairman, Sheikh Hamad bin Thamer Al Thani, is a member of the ruling Al Thani family.

Several countries have banned Al Jazeera or closed its bureaus, primarily due to accusations of bias, support for terrorism, and interference in regional affairs. These countries include Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Egypt, and Jordan.
 
@LightBright agree completely with everything you wrote.

Hopefully the justice system will keep working and he’ll be deported.
 
JPie said:
What I find really off is watching children and journalists burning outside hospitals, civilians tied to IDF vehicles as human shields, healthcare workers shot and buried in shallow graves, and desperate people lured by the promise of aid and being shot.

If this is the amount of disgust and heartbreak I feel as an observer, I can’t imagine what it’s like to see it live streamed as it happens to family and friends. Disrupting a few classes over it seems pretty damn restrained to me.

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You don’t have to educate me although it’s good for others to know what’s happening. I already agree from day one this needs to end.

We do not, however, need to invite in and prop up anarchists who have no desire to be Americans and whose only public activity so far is to promote disruption and disorder.
 
LightBright said:
You don’t have to educate me although it’s good for others to know what’s happening. I already agree from day one this needs to end.

We do not, however, need to invite in and prop up anarchists who have no desire to be Americans and whose only public activity so far is to promote disruption and disorder.
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“Disruption and disorder” by immigrants is what this country was founded upon. Boston Tea Party, anyone?
 
missy said:
@JPie thst is a “news” source known for outrageous lies
Fyi


Al Jazeera Media Network is owned and funded by the Qatari government, specifically the Qatari family… critics often point to the financial and political influence of the Qatari state. The network's chairman, Sheikh Hamad bin Thamer Al Thani, is a member of the ruling Al Thani family.

Several countries have banned Al Jazeera or closed its bureaus, primarily due to accusations of bias, support for terrorism, and interference in regional affairs. These countries include Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Egypt, and Jordan.
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You can see the same horrible story from Australia’s publicly-owned news.

All other links I shared are from mainstream U.S. sources.
 
missy said:
@JPie thst is a “news” source known for outrageous lies
Fyi


Al Jazeera Media Network is owned and funded by the Qatari government, specifically the Qatari family… critics often point to the financial and political influence of the Qatari state. The network's chairman, Sheikh Hamad bin Thamer Al Thani, is a member of the ruling Al Thani family.

Several countries have banned Al Jazeera or closed its bureaus, primarily due to accusations of bias, support for terrorism, and interference in regional affairs. These countries include Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Egypt, and Jordan.
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Did you yourself use NBC as a source when posting pictures of LA? So it’s fine enough for you to use when you agree with what they say, but suddenly when you disagree it’s a biased unreliable source? Hmm.
 
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