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Netsurfer733

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About to pull the trigger on a Custom Made project, and I thought I'd double check on the price of this diamond:

RBC2748 ROUND 0.61 F SI3 61.3 60 G VG 5.35-5.45x3.31 $1465.00

I am so green I don't know how to organize it better, even. Any thoughts? (This diamond/ring is just barely within my budget, so I can't go more expensive.)

Thanks!
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

SI3 means it is an I1. Get something with excellent/ideal cut.
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

I know this is way over budget but this is the type of stone you should look at you may have to drop in color to h - i but stay above ii you will be able to see the inclusions. Also cut is king so i'd rather see you get an ideal cut stone with brillance then a stone with eye visible inclusions. brb I'll look for something in your budget

http://m.briangavindiamonds.com/Diamonds/diamond-details/0.517-E-SI1-round-Diamond-AGS-104045953033


here is one from white flash sorry but I had to go a little smaller to get an ideal cut beauty that they hae in house. You would also get ps discount you should call WF or James Allen of Good old Gold
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3009352.htm
0.523 Round I VS2 Ideal Expert Selection AGS $1,566 $1,519

Details
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

Get an excellent/ideal cut, better than an SI3, worry about cut (again), with brilliance, no eye visible inclusions. Thanks for the tips folks, feel free to check back on this thread later on when I update it about what else is going on.

I will say this, the maker I'm dealing with rather sold me on this diamond because, well, I liked how it's 0.6ish because I thought it would have had to have been a 0.4 to meet my budget, AND because she said the following:

"Really an F color is excellent and SI3 stones from that particular dealer are very nice. I just set one the other day that was a .70, G SI3 from that dealer and it was a beautiful stone and clean to the naked eye in clarity. I say no one is going to go around and use magnification to look at her diamond."

She's been great so far, so I rather trust her on that. The question is, do you guys still think it's too risky and that I should pull the plug on this diamond (which I would have to do soon) to go for what will probably end up being a smaller rock for a better cut, etc.? Or did she convince you guys with that, as well, and I'm probably good to go?
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

Hi there. In my opinion, I'm somewhat less convinced by your dealer's comments. FIrst, F is certainly a lovely color; however, you may or may not be getting what most would consider an F color grade. Why? Because I think this is an EGL-graded stone. The SI3 clarity grade is a dead giveaway. EGL is notorious for looser grading, and an EGL-graded F might get an G, H, or possibly I if graded by GIA or AGS.

Second, diamonds are somewhat unique, and it's a bold statement to say one SI3 diamond will be beautiful and eye clean just because another SI3 diamond was beautiful and eye clean. So much depends on the type and location of the inclusions. Unless you have absolute faith in the dealer, I would never pull the trigger on any clarity SI1 and lower without seeing the diamond first to determine if you think it is eye clean.

So try to insist on a GIA or AGS report as well as pictures or the ability to view the diamond in person.
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

Netsurfer733|1387864636|3579852 said:
AND because she said the following:

"Really an F color is excellent and SI3 stones from that particular dealer are very nice. I just set one the other day that was a .70, G SI3 from that dealer and it was a beautiful stone and clean to the naked eye in clarity. I say no one is going to go around and use magnification to look at her diamond."
Click to expand...

Buy the cut, NOT the sales pitch.
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

Thank you guys so much for the assist; it's been very helpful. I don't have anyone else to turn to for this, after all!

If I might bomb you guys with some different choices here, that might help; I need to make a decision basically by the end of tonight, if anyone is up for taking a quick look. I'll try to list this as neatly as possible...but I wasn't given it all very neatly, so I'll do the best I can. Oh - and I really shouldn't do over $1500, so unless you guys find a bit of a steal, then let's try to keep it under that :)

I'll be looking over this stuff as you guys are (so long as the girlfriend doesn't barge into the room), so I'm right there with you. I'm going to be using what you guys already said as guidelines though. In any case, I look forward to all of your input!

Code: 
1.	  GWstone1=  0.72 ct I color VVS2 clarity. It is also an ideal cut stone. The price is $2,250
2.	GWstone 2 =   I have 0.70ct plus stones, GH color and eye clean stones for $2400 per Carat.  

RNstones.
Stock #	Shape	Carat	Cut	Color	Clarity	Depth	Table	Polish	Sym.	Fluor.	Dimensions	Total Price	Certificate
3. 
6247	ROUND	0.72	EX	H	VS2	60.6	56	VG	VG		5.82x5.77x3.51	$2440.00	EGL ISR 


4.
RBC2780	ROUND	0.72	VG	G	SI3	64.2	59	VG	VG		5.55-5.58x3.57	$1950.00 	EGL USA 



5.
6244	ROUND	0.76	EX	H	SI1	62.5	58	VG	VG		5.80x5.75x3.61	$2450.00	EGL ISR 


6.
6243	ROUND	0.78	EX	H	SI2	59.1	60	VG	VG		6.02x5.99x3.55	$2400.00	EGL ISR 



7.
6242


 	ROUND	0.78	G	F	SI2	63.5	63	VG	VG		5.77x5.67x3.63	$2750.00	EGL ISR 

8.

6408	ROUND	0.73	EX	H	VS2	62.8	56	EX	EX		5.76x5.71x3.60	$2350.00	EGL ISR 

9.

D4343	ROUND	0.73		F	SI2	64.1					5.68x5.64x3.63	$2600.00	EGL USA 

10.

02254-48	ROUND	0.71		H	SI2	64.2	56	VG	VG		5.63-5.57x3.60	$2153.13	EGL USA 



11.

7534	ROUND	0.70		H	SI2	64	59	G	VG		5.61x5.51x3.56	$2201.00	EGL USA 


12. 
RBC1278	ROUND	0.64		G	SI2	69.9	55	VG	G		5.14-5.22x3.62	$1600.00	EGL USA 

13.													
RBC2748	ROUND	0.61		F	SI3	61.3	60	G	VG		5.35-5.45x3.31	$1464.56	EGL USA 

14

RB9101	ROUND	0.58		H	SI2	62.7	60	G	G		5.24-5.28x3.30	$1578.80	EGL USA 

15. 

R4696	ROUND	0.56	EX	D	SI2	60.7	57	EX	EX			$2387.90    GIA 	     GIA 


16.

RBC3181	ROUND	0.56		F	SI2	60.7	60	G	G		5.30-5.35x3.23	$1536.00	EGL USA 

17.													
L-S572	ROUND	0.54		F	SI2	58.9	61	G	G		5.30-5.34x3.13	$1904.00	GIA 


18.
RB9103	ROUND	0.54		G	SI2	63.9	58	G	VG		5.11-5.13x3.27	$1428.13	EGL USA 



													
19.
Y3175-A	ROUND	0.55		H	VS2	58.7	60	VG	VG		5.34-5.39x3.15	$1902.50	EGL USA 


Here are some half carat stones
RBC1039	ROUND	0.50		F	SI2	63.2	55	EX	VG		5.02-5.07x3.18	$2012.50	EGL USA 

  RB8896	ROUND	0.50		D	SI2	60.4	57	VG	VG		5.14-5.19x3.12	$2026.88	EGL USA 

RB8701	ROUND	0.50		I	VS1	61.1	64	VG	VG		5.03-5.06x3.08	$2035.63	EGL USA 

D2074-1	ROUND	0.50		E	VS1	60.3	62	G	G		5.07x5.12x3.07	$2684.38	EGL USA 

D2074-3	ROUND	0.50		D	VS1	55.8	65	G	G		5.26x5.31x2.95	$2625.00	EGL USA 

RBC2721	ROUND	0.49	G	G	SI1	61.8	67	G	F		4.95-5.09x3.10	$2127.00	GIA

Code: 
Style #          Shape             CT     cut      color     clarity          measurements           Price                Cert

RBC2721	ROUND	0.49	      G	G	 SI1		4.95-5.09x3.10    $1625    GIA		
													
R4635	        ROUND	    0.53	   EX	   D	          SI2			   	                         $2300   GIA 


GR2553	         ROUND	       0.53	  VG	   E	          SI2		      5.22x5.24x3.16	   $2000	   GIA 


RCRB392	      ROUND	       0.51	I	          E	   VS1		        5.17x5.12x3.21	       $2600    	EGL USA 


5122	               ROUND	        0.51	    EX	   G	    SI3				          5.14x5.10x3.15	  $1750	EGL USA 


GR6177	         ROUND	         0.51	     EX	    G	  SI2		         5.17x5.20x3.11	   $1700     	GIA 


RCRB323	     ROUND	          0.48	    VG	    F       	VS2		           5.21x5.24x3.00   	   $2000  	GIA 


GR2576	         ROUND	         0.44   	    EX	     F   	VVS2		         4.89x4.93x3.00         	$1800	GIA 


GR2655	          ROUND	        0.43	     EX	     G	   IF		        4.92x4.93x2.91	   $1800	GIA 


g12336	          ROUND	         0.42	   VG	      H	SI1		4.83-4.85x2.93	$1550 GIA	
														
GR2580	ROUND	0.42	EX	G	VVS2		     4.83x4.85x2.98	 $1650	GIA 




GR2558	     ROUND	            0.41	 EX	        F	  VVS2		   4.74x4.78x2.95	$1900 GIA	


													
RBC3170	ROUND	0.41	EX	H	SI1		4.83-4.85x2.86	$1400	GIA 



RBC3169	    ROUND   	0.40	VG	F      	SI1	
		4.57-4.62x2.97	$1460	GIA 



ER2661	       ROUND	      0.50	   I	   E    	SI2		5.18x5.15x3.09	     $1600	EGL USA
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

If you have to make the decision on a tight timeline, this is a lot of data.

I would suggest eliminating anything but GIA/AGS stones, with Excellent/Ideal cut.

That will be a good start in refining SOME of the options, and will get you a step closer to finding a nice stone.
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

Alright, advice taken - here is a cleaned up version of the list. That probably limits my options around my budget but so be it! Here are the lists without any EGL.

Oh - and she updated the project with these extra options from her local guy:

"1. 0.52 E VS2 GIA cert = Price is $1950

2. 0.54 E SI1 GIA cert = Price is $2000

3. 0.40 G VS2 no cert but accurately graded. = Price is $ 1250

4. 0.47 H VVS2 IGI cert = Price is $1450 "



Code: 
1.	  GWstone1=  0.72 ct I color VVS2 clarity. It is also an ideal cut stone. The price is $2,250
2.	GWstone 2 =   I have 0.70ct plus stones, GH color and eye clean stones for $2400 per Carat.  

RNstones.
Stock #	Shape	Carat	Cut	Color	Clarity	Depth	Table	Polish	Sym.	Fluor.	Dimensions	Total Price	Certificate


R4696	ROUND	0.56	EX	D	SI2	60.7	57	EX	EX			$2387.90    GIA 	     GIA 




17.													
L-S572	ROUND	0.54		F	SI2	58.9	61	G	G		5.30-5.34x3.13	$1904.00	GIA 




RBC2721	ROUND	0.49	G	G	SI1	61.8	67	G	F		4.95-5.09x3.10	$2127.00	GIA

Code: 
Style #          Shape             CT     cut      color     clarity          measurements           Price                Cert

RBC2721	ROUND	0.49	      G	G	 SI1		4.95-5.09x3.10    $1625    GIA		
													
R4635	        ROUND	    0.53	   EX	   D	          SI2			   	                         $2300   GIA 


GR2553	         ROUND	       0.53	  VG	   E	          SI2		      5.22x5.24x3.16	   $2000	   GIA 



GR6177	         ROUND	         0.51	     EX	    G	  SI2		         5.17x5.20x3.11	   $1700     	GIA 


RCRB323	     ROUND	          0.48	    VG	    F       	VS2		           5.21x5.24x3.00   	   $2000  	GIA 


GR2576	         ROUND	         0.44   	    EX	     F   	VVS2		         4.89x4.93x3.00         	$1800	GIA 


GR2655	          ROUND	        0.43	     EX	     G	   IF		        4.92x4.93x2.91	   $1800	GIA 


g12336	          ROUND	         0.42	   VG	      H	SI1		4.83-4.85x2.93	$1550 GIA	
														
GR2580	ROUND	0.42	EX	G	VVS2		     4.83x4.85x2.98	 $1650	GIA 




GR2558	     ROUND	            0.41	 EX	        F	  VVS2		   4.74x4.78x2.95	$1900 GIA	


													
RBC3170	ROUND	0.41	EX	H	SI1		4.83-4.85x2.86	$1400	GIA 



RBC3169	    ROUND   	0.40	VG	F      	SI1	
		4.57-4.62x2.97	$1460	GIA
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

1. Unless you're an experience diamond buyer, I'd stay away from most EGL stones.

2. Are you limited to just what this jeweler has in their inventory? The inventory spreadsheet info you're providing isn't enough to make any type of recommendation. Based on what's there, I'd limit to GIA Excellent stones (as I don't see any AGS), then get the GIA certs and begin looking for these proportion ranges:

Total depth between 59 – 61.8%
Table diameter between 53 – 57%
Crown angle between 34.3 – 34.8 degrees
Pavilion angle between 40.6 – 40.9 degrees
Girdle thickness between thin and slightly thick
Culet: none

That will at least get you in the right ball park.
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

Understood - thanks for the pointers. Unfortunately, she said we'd have to make decisions by tomorrow about the diamond. That in combination with how I actually need this ring made and delivered in my hands by January 10th altogether makes me think that we will probably need to just go on these choices she's given me, indeed.

And since I need to pull the trigger by tomorrow, I think I can only say that I have to be in the $1500 range, MAYBE $1700. I really can't do any more because the cruise I budgeted to combine the proposal with will be endangered because of that (clothes in preparation for, money for food, miscellaneous, etc.). Case in point I expect to be able to spare about $300 for all of that if I get $1700, so yeah - dangerous!

So with all of that knowledge, I'll narrow this down even further (removing everything from the top code box since it's out of budget). It looks like that leaves us with about 11 choices:


0.40 G VS2 no cert but accurately graded. = Price is $ 1250

0.47 H VVS2 IGI cert = Price is $1450



Style # Shape CT cut color clarity measurements Price Cert

RBC2721 ROUND 0.49 G G SI1 4.95-5.09x3.10 $1625 GIA


GR6177 ROUND 0.51 EX G SI2 5.17x5.20x3.11 $1700 GIA


GR2576 ROUND 0.44 EX F VVS2 4.89x4.93x3.00 $1800 GIA


GR2655 ROUND 0.43 EX G IF 4.92x4.93x2.91 $1800 GIA


g12336 ROUND 0.42 VG H SI1 4.83-4.85x2.93 $1550 GIA

GR2580 ROUND 0.42 EX G VVS2 4.83x4.85x2.98 $1650 GIA




GR2558 ROUND 0.41 EX F VVS2 4.74x4.78x2.95 $1900 GIA



RBC3170 ROUND 0.41 EX H SI1 4.83-4.85x2.86 $1400 GIA



RBC3169 ROUND 0.40 VG F SI1
4.57-4.62x2.97 $1460 GIA
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

You need to look at the GIA certs for all of the stones you have listed.
Find the ones that best match the proportion range I listed previously. This will keep you in the ideal cut range.
Eliminate those that don't fit.
From the ones left, find the best color and clarity combo within your budget.

You're not really going about this the right way, but at least this advice will hopefully somewhat steer you right.
Good luck!
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

I found a beautiful j vs2 .52 for $1,194 at bluenile. It even has medium blue flour. and has an excellent cut
I don't know how to send you a link or I would :rolleyes: Just put in the information I gave you and it will
come up. If you put it in a 14k white gold setting you will be under budget :appl: I've never posted on here
before, but I can feel your excitement and I know how to pick a nice stone! Best of luck, please show us
what you choose!
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

It seems that indeed we are just about out of time to do this and that there will be just about no time to make this final decision, but I really have to ask - will the first diamond I gave, which had a much healthier size to it...

RBC2748 ROUND 0.61 F SI3 61.3 60 G VG 5.35-5.45x3.31 $1465.00 EGL

...really risk some poor marks or imperfections, and the like? I know you guys seem to think that, but still. I was always hoping to get her something bigger than what I seem to be leaning towards now given your guys advice, which is:

GR2580 ROUND 0.42 EX G VVS2 4.83x4.85x2.98 $1650 GIA

Are there any thoughts? You guys are really sure I shouldn't take the plunge on the far larger diamond?
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

Good luck to you. Lots of good advice has been offered here to steer you in the right direction, but you seem not to be listening to any of it. With the grading variances of EGL, that SI3 is probably far lower grade than that in reality. If you are only concerned with size over quality, go for it. Just prepare to be disappointed.
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

Please don't misunderstand me - the reason I keep coming back here is because i very dearly DO appreciate it, and it's the only reason I've been putting my maker through a bit of hell, because her advice is starkly opposed to your guys advice, and I've been working with her for weeks. I'm sure you can understand the position that puts me in.

You should know that the final three diamonds I have asked her to look into are:

1) The original: RBC2748 ROUND 0.61 F SI3 61.3 60 G VG 5.35-5.45x3.31 $1465.00

2) GR2655 ROUND 0.43 EX G IF 4.92x4.93x2.91 $1800 GIA

3) GR2580 ROUND 0.42 EX G VVS2 4.83x4.85x2.98 $1650 GIA


And I've been leaning much more heavily towards the last one. She will give me the documentation for that one, and I have to say that's probably the one I will take. This is solely based off your guys suggestions, so truly I couldn't be more greatful :)

So again, I am absolutely listening to all of it. Unfortunately I asked this maker to give me more diamond options for the past week or two but she hasn't had time over the holidays, thus the huge rush today. That is why I can't look into everything as thoroughly as I'd like.

If anyone still has some suggestions of something from anything I listed in this thread (which yes, she said is all we can choose from with this tight schedule) or if you would pick one in particular from this list of three, that would be super helpful.

She says she'll get those certs to me soon, but there will only be a few hours to look them over, so I hope some of you will be up for looking at them with me when she gets them to me shortly.
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

Sorry for being so blunt, but sometimes it's needed to make the right things happen.
Please post the angle proportions for the two GIA stones you have listed as soon as you can get them from the certs.
That's step one.
Will you be seeing these stones in person to make a choice beyond that?
The paper isn't everything. Your eyes help, too.
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

Unfortunately this person is two time zones away from me, so I'll see about the pictures but unfortunately it's looking doubtful. That's why I'm leaning so heavily towards what you guys are saying, to go by the GIA. (G color shouldn't be bad for GIA, right?)
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

Curious why the big rush? Jewlers leaving the country?? You have a specific date to propose?
The good folks here have no vested interest in your sale, unlike the jeweler.
If the jeweler is pressuring you I would take my money and walk away. We see stories everyday of folks who ignore what the good folks here are trying to tell you.
True you don't wear a certificate, but the words and numbers on that certificate will accurately tell you whether or not you will have the brightest, sparkliest , very best value for your money.
A well cut stone that will perform like a firecracker is the goal.
Listen to the PS diamond gurus!
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

As I said prior in the thread (I certainly don't blame you for not reading it all, it has become somewhat long), I do need the ring absolutely by January 10th. That is because we'll be going on a cruise, during which I plan to propose when we taxi to this particular spot in the Bahamas I've found.

So yeah, I don't expect many people to help during such a short amount of time, but I hope once I get these certs (which I was hoping would have been by now...) that someone, at least, will help talk to me about it.

So no pressure on the custom ring maker's part - they just didn't quite get around to giving me an expanded list of diamonds quite in time, which is somewhat understandable.

Sadly she can only really get me the certs for my top 3 choices, which are what I listed above. So fingers crossed on that. (Will those certs for that first one - which is EGL - mean that if they come up good enough, it might *actually* be a decent idea to go for the EGL? Or should I abandon all hope for it even then?)
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

Based on your budget ($1500) and the size of the diamond (around 0.5 carats), I would probably choose this one:

RBC3170 ROUND 0.41 EX H SI1 4.83-4.85x2.86 $1400 GIA

Since you seem to want to work with your jeweler, I am choosing a diamond from your list (however, my choice may change based on the certificate/seeing the diamond in person). It is good value as the H color will look virtually colorless once mounted and most GIA-graded SI1s are eye-clean (obviously check this out for yourself by looking at the diamond in person). When you're on a budget, you don't want to be paying for things that you can't see (i.e. F color or VVS2 clarity).

For a diamond this size, I wouldn't worry too much about the exact proportions of the diamond (as long as it's a GIA excellent cut). Although a lot of people here are very specific about diamond proportions (and for good reason), it does come down to your personal preference. I actually prefer the look of smaller diamonds without prominent arrows (as long as they are still bright and brilliant). That being said, I am no diamond expert. I am simply choosing the diamond I would buy if I were in your position (based solely on the limited information you have provided).

I know you were hoping to get a slightly larger diamond (the 0.61 carat), but a well-cut, less included diamond of a comparable color will generally appear larger to the eye (and as others have said, I would hesitate to buy an EGL-certified diamond).
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

An EGL SI3 has the chance of not even being gradable by a good lab like GIA or AGS. Without seeing images and deeper analysis, I wouldn't go near a stone like that just because it's slightly bigger. Quality over quantity and cut is king.
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

Hey all, I just wanted to say thanks so much for the help; that original diamond I would have gone for without your guys advice apparently did have some visible faults when she looked at it, so I have to thank you guys for that and everything else so far!

The deal with the timeline was that she was hoping to get it in by tomorrow to not have to rush a few things, but she said that we could afford to wait until Monday. So that means I have some additional time to consider the options.

So as I mentioned before, she said it would be easiest to work with my top 3 choices from the range of diamonds she gave me (because with how I need this by January 10th we couldn't order diamonds from elsewhere). You guys advised me to get the certs for these diamonds in addition to making sure they are GIA graded because I won't be seeing the diamonds (unfortunately), so literally as of two minutes before I started writing this post, I got the three certs for my top three diamond choices. I wanted to make sure you guys got these ASAP! Without further adieu:

http://www.cmstatic1.com/01-14/2692213/5bcd17e95189dc4.jpg

http://www.cmstatic1.com/01-14/2692213/27a897cc32d56f1.jpg

http://www.cmstatic1.com/01-14/2692213/d0424f63ceb3e77.jpg

Just in case these didn't work, I'm uploading them as attachments as well. (I'm pretty sure it's okay to do this, right? I don't think any of this info would be private.)







So - which of these look good to you all? And also importantly, do any of these seem poor?

5bcd17e95189dc4.jpg

27a897cc32d56f1.jpg

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Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

I'm sorry but they're all poorly cut :knockout: Please see the diamond I told you to look at previously.
I promise you will not be disappointed, and they have an excellent return policy if your eyes don't like
what they see when you get it. Don't compromise on cut as I and others have told you..
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

Unless I'm mistaken, two docs are the same diamond. The paper is the same. Do you have the paper for a different #3 stone?

Stone 1 is 3.1 HCA
Stone 2 is 2.0 HCA
Stone 3?

Of the two you have papers for, I'd eliminate #1 right away.
Stone 2 is the one to consider, but let's see the specs on the third stone.

At least with HCA numbers, we can predict which is the best of the 3, but nothing is for sure.
There still are better stones out there to pick from, but it is what it is.
 
Re: Just a quick price check to make sure this diamond is go

sherryd|1388893196|3586520 said:
I'm sorry but they're all poorly cut :knockout: Please see the diamond I told you to look at previously.
I promise you will not be disappointed, and they have an excellent return policy if your eyes don't like
what they see when you get it. Don't compromise on cut as I and others have told you..
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Unfortunately as I've tried to say a few times (again, no worries - this thread has gotten fairly long) I cannot choose another diamond from somewhere else right now; it has to be from the choices I gave before, or the choices she has available.

Also, by them all having a bad cut, is it a bad cut to the naked eye? Are you judging this from the 'actual proportions' section? I just need to understand this because I don't think we have much in the way of options or time now. These two (and then a third I'll post later, thanks krisjon) may be my only options right now :evil: (I really wish that weren't the case. If only she had given me all of my options a week or two ago as I had asked...stupid holidays. But not really.)

@krisjon, you are totally right. Darn...that is ONE thing I did not expect when I glanced at these. She was so delayed in getting them to me that I really didn't think this could happen after so long. I will ask her to get the third immediately.
 
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Netsurfer733|1388898433|3586575 said:
@krisjon, you are totally right. Darn...that is ONE thing I did not expect when I glanced at these. She was so delayed in getting them to me that I really didn't think this could happen after so long. I will ask her to get the third immediately.
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No problem. Keep us posted. Hopefully the third will be even better!
 
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krisjon said:
Total depth between 59 – 61.8%
Table diameter between 53 – 57%
Crown angle between 34.3 – 34.8 degrees
Pavilion angle between 40.6 – 40.9 degrees
Girdle thickness between thin and slightly thick
Culet: none

That will at least get you in the right ball park.
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As krisjon said, those parameters are pretty good and you should narrow your search to stones that fall within those ranges. It depends on who you're asking, but the parameters I'd give are:

depth: 59-62.4
table: anything under 57 (sometimes you can get a larger table if everything else is in line)
crown: 34-35 (staying at 34.9 or less would be best)
pavilion: 40.5-40.9 (it's not a *huge* deal to have 41, again, if everything else is in line this should be ok).

Since you can't look at other vendors, it'd be best if you sent this information over to who your supplier is and have them give you options based on these numbers. *Cut* is the single most important thing so you want to make sure you're getting the best that you can.
 
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