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Jeremy Clarkson on Lab Diamonds

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Not sure if this crowd has much crossover with Top Gear/Grand Tour fans. That said, you may find this article funny/interesting as I did.
Jeremy Clarkson: Real diamonds are clearly designed to ruin men. Give me a Didcot knock‑off any day
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As we know, it is completely impossible for a normal human man to buy jewellery for his wife or girlfriend. And soon it's going to be harder still. In the run-up to last Christmas I was given a subtle hint that I should buy some drop earrings. And when someone says, "I don't have any drop earrings and I would like some", even I'm able to work out the hidden meaning.

So I went online to see what a drop earring was and then went to London, where I reckoned I'd be able to buy some.

There were many on show, but after 20 minutes of staring at them, with the same level of interest as I use on red traffic lights, I was fighting back the urge to curl up on the pavement and die of boredom. But then one pair caught my eye. They were blue, and as I like the colour blue, I went into the shop and asked the orange lady behind the counter if she would get them out of the locked glass case.

There was a lot of pomp that went into granting this simple request, and as the door swung open, I half expected to be serenaded by Beethoven's Ode to Joy. But eventually the earrings were laid out on a cushion for me to inspect. This was like asking my mother to inspect a ship's boiler. I had no idea what I was supposed to notice, so I said: "Mmmm. Yes. They're lovely. I'll take them."

There was then more pomp, and I was offered a glass of champagne while the earrings were wrapped, and then I was presented with the bill, which was, and there's no other way of saying this, £67,000.

It was hard to work out what I should do at this point. My mind was spinning and my eyes were suddenly full of sweat. "Hmmm," I said. And then, "Hmmm," I said again, buying some time until a solution presented itself.

Eventually, I'm delighted to say, it did. I turned and fled.

Why don't jewellery shops put prices on the jewellery they're selling? Do they like humiliating their customers? Or are they practising for some kind of world smirking championship? And, while we are at it, why don't they also provide a handy guide next to each piece explaining why it is worth £67,000 more than the stuff you get in seaside trinket shops? Bridegrooms in Britain spend around £500 less on engagement rings than brides would expect. But, apart from in Yorkshire, where the figure is lower, they still blow around £1,500. You could get a pretty good car for that. Certainly it'd buy you a very stylish oven. Whereas all you get from a ring is some metal and a rock.

To me all jewellery looks exactly the same. A gold bracelet that you win if you are good at hooking a fairground duck is identical in every way to a bracelet that you buy from one of those Bond Street shops that are guarded by former soldiers with curly ear pieces.

And diamonds? You can tell a good one from a bad one only if you have 30 years of training and a very powerful microscope. Or if you are a shallow woman in Monte Carlo. To me they are all sort of silvery and see-through and small. Carats, in my book, are like Def Con numbers. Are the higher ones better, or is it the other way round? I'd be as useless at being a billionaire as I would at being a president of America.

And now things are about to get even tougher, because in a U-turn in policy on synthetic diamonds, De Beers has decided that it's silly to wait 4 billion years for a diamond to form and has announced that it's to start a production line in its factory in Oxfordshire that can make them in three weeks. Now I happen to know that in Namibia, once every so often, mining companies use hundreds of bulldozers to push the beach out to sea at low tide. This creates a flimsy sea wall, which holds the incoming tide at bay while thousands of workers scamper onto the sea bed with toothbrushes to look for diamonds stuck in the cracks of the rock.

Of course, I can see that something that needs this level of danger and expense to recover is going to be a bit pricy. Whereas something made in Oxfordshire by squeezing and heating a small honeycomb of carbon isn't. Yes, the squeezing is quite intense — the same pressure as the Eiffel Tower sitting on a fizzy drinks can, in fact. And the heating is more than you can get from a Primus stove. But we are not talking about kryptonite here. Carbon is the fourth most abundant element in the universe. So charging big money for it would be as daft as charging big money for hydrogen and oxygen. Actually, strike that — Evian does.

Whatever, when De Beers is up and running with its new diamond factories, I shall be presented by an orange shop lady with two diamonds. One has taken billions of years to form under Africa and has been recovered by the performance of dental work on the sea bed, and the other has been made, like a pencil, in Didcot. And to my eye they will appear to be identical. Which is because they are identical. Because they are both diamonds.

De Beers itself has spent millions over the years on machines that can tell laboratory diamonds from the real thing. So why, it must be asked, bother with the real thing at all? Giving me the choice in a shop of spending £2,000 on the real thing or £600 on something that is also real, but that will get me a slap should the receipt ever surface, is just another unnecessary burden of difficulty for the human male.

Still, at least we don't have to buy wedding dresses. Because — and I will take absolutely no argument on this — they are all identical as well.

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Except .... some people love the idea that their diamond took billions of years to form, miles under the surface, under incredible circumstances, spit out by a freak of nature and somehow surviving the process. It’s a mind-clean issue. Some people think only natural stones are treasures. Lots of people. Even people that know full well that carbon is carbon and diamond is diamond, prefer a natural stone.

You can’t get around the fact that a man-made diamond is ... man-made.

It’s a mind issue. Some people think it’s ridiculous, some people don’t. Some people think diamond (natural or man-made) engagement rings are ridiculous.

Unless a person loves diamonds, the way most of us do on PS, of course they will not understand. This guy says you can’t see the difference between a good and bad diamond without 30 years experience and a microscope ... if only that were true! lol

“All you get from a ring is some metal and a rock” hahahaha oh no another guy like that, lol.

I posted a thread a long time ago asking how people would respond to “diamonds are bullshit” ... if you agree with this guy, then you’re probably in the “diamonds are bullshit” camp.
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/how-do-you-respond-to-“diamonds-are-bullshit”.245183/

I think you’ll get a kick out of that thread!

This is like me writing an article about why a Fiat 500 is just as good as a Ferrari. It’s an entertaining article but it doesn’t make me appreciate natural diamonds less.

I do appreciate lab diamonds for being the real thing only cheaper, but I wouldn’t make one a big dollar purchase just because I’d be losing 95% if I decided to sell. I would spend maybe up to $5000 on a lab diamond, I think. At $10000 or more, I’d be looking at the natural diamonds because of some lasting dollar value (no I would never consider it an investment, per se, but nice to know it’s not worth nothing as soon as I buy it). Also I do personally have a mind-preference for natural diamonds, and am sure that bias shows clearly in all of my posts ... at the same time I do respect that other people don’t have that mind-issue (they are smarter and have more money ... but I probably get more joy from my diamond).

Anyway, thank you for posting that! It was fun to read. :wavey:
 
LOL

JC is my hero :D

My good lady was lucky enough to get us tickets to see him doing his stuff with May and Hamster, and it was excellent - I know he comes across as a provocateur regarding many things, but from what I could tell, that is his deliberate and intelligently constructed intention and he is just another humble human being grateful for the public's acceptance and enjoyment of his work.

I'm pleased to see that he has managed to capture all the key issues and considerations in a succinct, amusing and non-technical way - it is this sort of article that will increase public understanding and acceptance of the shiny and cool progress us humans have made :))
 
LOL

JC is my hero :D

My good lady was lucky enough to get us tickets to see him doing his stuff with May and Hamster, and it was excellent - I know he comes across as a provocateur regarding many things, but from what I could tell, that is his deliberate and intelligently constructed intention and he is just another humble human being grateful for the public's acceptance and enjoyment of his work.

I'm pleased to see that he has managed to capture all the key issues and considerations in a succinct, amusing and non-technical way - it is this sort of article that will increase public understanding and acceptance of the shiny and cool progress us humans have made :))
Man I am jealous you got to see them live! My friend got tickets to their Nashville filming but I wasn’t so lucky:-/
 
Except .... some people love the idea that their diamond took billions of years to form, miles under the surface, under incredible circumstances, spit out by a freak of nature and somehow surviving the process. It’s a mind-clean issue. Some people think only natural stones are treasures. Lots of people. Even people that know full well that carbon is carbon and diamond is diamond, prefer a natural stone.

You can’t get around the fact that a man-made diamond is ... man-made.

It’s a mind issue. Some people think it’s ridiculous, some people don’t. Some people think diamond (natural or man-made) engagement rings are ridiculous.

Unless a person loves diamonds, the way most of us do on PS, of course they will not understand. This guy says you can’t see the difference between a good and bad diamond without 30 years experience and a microscope ... if only that were true! lol

“All you get from a ring is some metal and a rock” hahahaha oh no another guy like that, lol.

I posted a thread a long time ago asking how people would respond to “diamonds are bullshit” ... if you agree with this guy, then you’re probably in the “diamonds are bullshit” camp.
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/how-do-you-respond-to-“diamonds-are-bullshit”.245183/

I think you’ll get a kick out of that thread!

This is like me writing an article about why a Fiat 500 is just as good as a Ferrari. It’s an entertaining article but it doesn’t make me appreciate natural diamonds less.

I do appreciate lab diamonds for being the real thing only cheaper, but I wouldn’t make one a big dollar purchase just because I’d be losing 95% if I decided to sell. I would spend maybe up to $5000 on a lab diamond, I think. At $10000 or more, I’d be looking at the natural diamonds because of some lasting dollar value (no I would never consider it an investment, per se, but nice to know it’s not worth nothing as soon as I buy it). Also I do personally have a mind-preference for natural diamonds, and am sure that bias shows clearly in all of my posts ... at the same time I do respect that other people don’t have that mind-issue (they are smarter and have more money ... but I probably get more joy from my diamond).

Anyway, thank you for posting that! It was fun to read. :wavey:
Thanks for the link!
I don’t think man-made or natural is inherently good or bad. Polio is natural and the vaccine is man-made. One can argue anything that exists is “natural” by simply existing however I’m not the ultra-subversive type, just rational haha.
Kinda mixing threads here but:
Which car is a Ferrari?
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Which car was built in the 1960s and is worth $17 million and which car was built in 2017 and is worth $2 million?
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