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heididdl

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I thought you were working with ID jewelry. Were they not able to find something in your budget? This is the company I went with for my studs and I contacted them directly to avoid taxes and eBay fees. The picture is just a stock photo so they can help you choose but they have pairs within your budget. That is about what I paid for mine and mine are triple x so even though the listing shows some certs that isn’t necessarily what you are hebolden to. Just a suggestion bc like I said this was before my PS days. So my stones probably aren’t PS standards. But on a lark when I looked up ACAs for the size I have the least expensive was 30k. But the ACAs listed were all VS and higher.


He is working so hard to find me studs in my budget. My boss is also in the industry and he found me these. I don't know if I'mpatient or whether I think these might be the ones
my specs are
3x GIA
H-I color Si eye clean
and hearts and arrows
It fits all the criteria...I have shared them with IDJ for his guidance. But part of me jut wants the journey over lol
 

heididdl

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I thought you were working with ID jewelry. Were they not able to find something in your budget? This is the company I went with for my studs and I contacted them directly to avoid taxes and eBay fees. The picture is just a stock photo so they can help you choose but they have pairs within your budget. That is about what I paid for mine and mine are triple x so even though the listing shows some certs that isn’t necessarily what you are hebolden to. Just a suggestion bc like I said this was before my PS days. So my stones probably aren’t PS standards. But on a lark when I looked up ACAs for the size I have the least expensive was 30k. But the ACAs listed were all VS and higher.


Good to i know the ones I have shown above are similar. I will wait for I.D.JEWELRY tomorrow and possibly go see them Monday It's hard as PS has high standards and I just want studs I will love
 

mrs-b

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I guess I just have to apologize. I can't afford ACA and I have been actively looking for 2 months (actually for ever myself) for 3.0 3x h-I 3x GIA stones for studs. I have a hard stop budget of $17,000 and I'm just frustrated. Sorry it may be a little late to apologize but
Ive been burned and I guess I was taking it out on you "price scope community ". NOT the OG

@heididdl -

For what it's worth, you'll have bigger studs than I've ever owned if you find a pair that large. When I bought my first pair (1.44ctw), I compromised on cut and still loved them. Were I in your situation, I'd compromise all my parameters and not give it a second thought. I think earrings are much more forgiving than rings and don't need to be held to the same standard. I'd also be willing to drop my size, since that's what's primarily holding you back from getting something on your ears within budget. Even the studs I have now are clusters rather than solitaires, which are MUCH easier on the budget and give way more ear coverage - and which I prefer anyway. Might be worth giving that sort of design some thought.

I wish you good luck and hope to see a thread on your new earrings very soon.
 

heididdl

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@heididdl -

For what it's worth, you'll have bigger studs than I've ever owned if you find a pair that large. When I bought my first pair (1.44ctw), I compromised on cut and still loved them. Were I in your situation, I'd compromise all my parameters and not give it a second thought. I think earrings are much more forgiving than rings and don't need to be held to the same standard. I'd also be willing to drop my size, since that's what's primarily holding you back from getting something on your ears within budget. Even the studs I have now are clusters rather than solitaires, which are MUCH easier on the budget and give way more ear coverage - and which I prefer anyway. Might be worth giving that sort of design some thought.

I wish you good luck and hope to see a thread on your new earrings very soon.

Thank you for your reply :)
 

theshirlgirlNS

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Just want to add my experience for anyone reading this thread and trying to decide if a branded cut is worth it.

We had done endless research on all the right measurements and angles to help us narrow down the pool of GIA XXX diamonds on Blue Nile. On paper we had chosen a great diamond, and I wasn't disappointed when my fiancé proposed with it. It was pretty. He wanted to purchase at Blue Nile due to the financing. Fast forward a couple years later and I wanted something bigger - and this time I was willing to pay the premium to have a "super ideal" branded diamond. I went from a 1.81 I VS2 to a 3.24 J IF ACA. Both my husband and I could immediately see the difference in performance, sparkle and beauty of the ACA diamond.

I also have a 5 stone 2.5 carat ring with individually chosen BG "Black" diamonds (all E-F, VS1/2). Nothing in my high-end local jewelry stores came close to the beauty of the BG ring - and price wise, it was less expensive than I would've paid locally.

I personally am sold on branded super ideal diamonds - especially if you are shopping online. I'd actually rather go down in specs on the branded diamond if I had to stay on budget, as I think the exceptional performance gives you some leeway, particularly on color (but I don't feel I am color sensitive, so bear that in mind).

I'm currently upgrading AGAIN - this time to a 4.23 J VS1 ACA. The upgrade policy from WF is superb. And, while I could find a less expensive diamond at BN or JA (and certainly would have a bigger selection), I'm not confident that I personally could find one that would be as pretty.

"Worth" is subjective and can only be judged by ourselves. For me, the price premium is worth the reduced risk involved with buying a diamond online, guaranteed cut performance and the convenience of not having to sort through the large pool of GIA XXX possibilities.

I haven't received the new diamond yet, but I'm feeling confident it will be beautiful. Fingers crossed I'm not proven wrong!
 

sledge

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I’ve said it before a thousand times and it’s still true, super ideals are an “easy button” buying approach to getting a stunning diamond with superb trade policy, amazing customer service and a full array of advanced images and data to make a decision.

Risk management is real. The proportions on the stone the OP posted are within realm of being a nice performer. It’s the nuances of GIA gross rounding and any “cheating” in the cutting process that will determine if it truly walks the walk or not. When advanced images are available for a 35/40.8 I find it to be hit or miss. That doesn’t exactly exude confidence. Add to the fact no actual photos or videos, and from a company I’ve never heard of and it makes it very hard to want to release my hard earned dollars to “rockher”. :roll2:

Admittedly I like mind clean things and I appreciate superb craftsmanship more than the lowest dollar. I’ve never once bought anything (diamonds or otherwise) where I was solely pleased because of price alone. Value isn’t just about the lowest dollars and cents, it’s about finding that sweet spot between price and what you truly believe to be the best product.

Without doubt, you can find nice GIA 3X stones. However the work you put into it and the risk levels are different. While @mrs-b is a master at it, she is also an outlier to the typical buyer experience. Thankfully she and many others here can use that wisdom and hard earned experience to help guide others if they are willing to listen.
 

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@theshirlgirlNS so are you saying your BN stone technically has the specs of a super ideal, yet the ACA still outshone it? Amazing ring you have btw!!!
 

theshirlgirlNS

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@theshirlgirlNS so are you saying your BN stone technically has the specs of a super ideal, yet the ACA still outshone it? Amazing ring you have btw!!!

Yes. The BN diamond ticked every measurement/angle box for a super ideal on paper. And, the diamond WAS pretty - it was not a dud. The ACA was just much better looking with more brilliance and fire.

I think @sledge said it perfectly - super ideals are the "easy button" for diamond shopping.
 

sledge

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Not implying your 3X was like this @theshirlgirlNS, but here is an example I found awhile back where on paper it looked amazing. Then the advanced images told a much different story. I don’t believe or think all 3X are this way but this is the risk of not getting all the data to make a complete analysis of your purchase.
 

sbfairy

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I have both ACA and GIA stones. My e ring is from Whiteflash but my studs are GIA from ID Jewelry. I called them up and told them I wanted hearts and arrows stones to match my ring. They were able to get me 2 matching GIA excellent cut stones with hearts and arrows that equaled 1.5 carats for a really good price. The reason I continually go with Whiteflash is hands down the service. Before they sold Danhov, I had my heart set on one of their settings. Whiteflash called them and made it happen for me. I got some nice earrings from ID Jewelry but I always had to initiate contact, they never called me back. ACAs are beautiful, you definitely get what you pay for, but you can also get something beautiful if you know what to look for and you're willing to put in work.
 
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