Is this diamond sparkly based on its Gemex report? {newbie needs help}

[Sperry8]

I have been shown a diamond and it appears to sparkle properly, shows hearts and arrows, and very little light loss via a light path scope. They even provided this Gemex report showing High and Very High overall marks. However, the 5 light views don't show as crazy bright (to me), esp views 3 & 5. The jeweler said those photos are less important than the overall scores at the bars on top. Not sure if that's true. But why the difference (bars vs views)? Based on the Gemex report is this a good diamond? (I also attached a photo as seen through the light path scope and the HCR report)

 

[DejaWiz]

Hello and welcome to PriceScope,Sperry8!

Found a picture of the diamond:

Loupe360

loupe360.com

Price and quality scores for GIA Number 2225680068

View the fair price estimate, Cut Score® and price history for GIA Certified Diamond 2225680068. Everything you need to know to buy this diamond.

www.stonealgo.com

The grading report:

GIA - Report Check

www.gia.edu

It has good potential, but the crown angle is a bit steeper...would love to see an ASET scope image to verify if there's any troublesome light leakage going on under the table area. Is this something that the seller can provide?

 

[Karl_K]

gemex is severely limited in that its a limited lighting scheme vs many different lighting conditions in the real world and it favors a small subset of well cut diamonds that has little real world connection.
I would take anything on the gemex report with a grain of salt.
I used to be a fan but since I have learned a lot more about diamonds and diamond performance I consider it little more than a toy.
That is just my opinion and others may or may not agree.

 

[Sperry8]

Hello and welcome to PriceScope,Sperry8!

Found a picture of the diamond:

Loupe360

loupe360.com

Price and quality scores for GIA Number 2225680068

View the fair price estimate, Cut Score® and price history for GIA Certified Diamond 2225680068. Everything you need to know to buy this diamond.

www.stonealgo.com

The grading report:

GIA - Report Check

www.gia.edu

It has good potential, but the crown angle is a bit steeper...would love to see an ASET scope image to verify if there's any troublesome light leakage going on under the table area. Is this something that the seller can provide?

Thanks, nice to be here. I attached a photo in the original post of the light leakage (taken from the Light Path Scope he had in the store). I believe this shows the light leakage of the stone. Does it look OK to you?

Appreciate you sending this link: https://www.stonealgo.com/diamond-details/gia-number-2225680068 Is the price estimate in this link valid? If so, it seems a fair price as he's asking $16,380 (which seems like the average fair estimate before the price jump a ~3-4 weeks ago).

 

[DejaWiz]

Thanks, nice to be here. I attached a photo in the original post of the light leakage (taken from the Light Path Scope he had in the store). I believe this shows the light leakage of the stone. Does it look OK to you?

Appreciate you sending this link: https://www.stonealgo.com/diamond-details/gia-number-2225680068 Is the price estimate in this link valid? If so, it seems a fair price as he's asking $16,380 (which seems like the average fair estimate before the price jump a ~3-4 weeks ago).

I may be getting nitpicky here, but the Ideal-Scope image probably needs to be retaken with proper backlighting and alignment to really gauge these potential areas of concern better:

 

[Karl_K]

@DejaWiz
Its not an IS image its a light path scope image which looks to have different obstruction levels compared to IS.
In not at my pc to try and hunt down more details on it.

Light Path Scope

 

[DejaWiz]

@DejaWiz
Its not an IS image its a light path scope image which looks to have different obstruction levels compared to IS.
In not at my pc to try and hunt down more details on it.

Light Path Scope

Thank you, Karl!

 

[Karl_K]

Ask the vendor if they have the symmetry scope aka h&a scope to go with it and can get the pavilion/heart view.
That will answer a lot of questions.

Using the lightest part of the center as a leakage reference many of the areas that @DejaWiz marked are not a concern to me.
I suspect some of the other is a different obstruction % issue.
The area around the arrow at 9 o'clock is probably an indication of a small heart in a h&a image of unknown magnitude in that area.

 

[Sperry8]

Ask the vendor if they have the symmetry scope aka h&a scope to go with it and can get the pavilion/heart view.
That will answer a lot of questions.

Using the lightest part of the center as a leakage reference many of the areas that @DejaWiz marked are not a concern to me.
I suspect some of the other is a different obstruction % issue.
The area around the arrow at 9 o'clock is probably an indication of a small heart in a h&a image of unknown magnitude in that area.

Thank you! I will ask. For clarity, is the H&A scope different than an Ideal-scope (or what I probably incorrectly call a hearts and arrows viewer)? They had one in their store, is that what you want a photo of?

 

[Karl_K]

Thank you! I will ask. For clarity, is the H&A scope different than an Ideal-scope (or what I probably incorrectly call a hearts and arrows viewer)? They had one in their store, is that what you want a photo of?

The image will look similar to the traditional hearts and arrows symmetry. Ignore the advertising for the solasfera that they call advanced optical symmetry.

 

[Sperry8]

Hi Karl. Here is (I believe) what you asked for. What do you think?

 

[musicloveranthony]

Respectfully, it isn't terribly promising to my eyes. It certainly isn't awful, but if you're looking for a super-ideal cut type this probably won't quite meet that for you. If the price is right, it could be a solid option as long as you know it won't be picture perfect

Hi Karl. Here is (I believe) what you asked for. What do you think?

 

[Sperry8]

Respectfully, it isn't terribly promising to my eyes. It certainly isn't awful, but if you're looking for a super-ideal cut type this probably won't quite meet that for you. If the price is right, it could be a solid option as long as you know it won't be picture perfect

Thank you for your thoughts. Is the price right at $16,380? 2.03 carat, J, VVS2 (with all the photos you saw)

 

[musicloveranthony]

If I were spending that money on a stone I'd buy one of these two. They're going to have picture perfect cutting and proportions and they're around the same price. It's a little bit smaller, but I'd go for the 0.93 personally - I think it looks much whiter and it has great visual appeal. It's also less expensive

Diamond | 1.931 ct K VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4460729

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.931 carat K color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4460729

www.whiteflash.com

Diamond | 2.041 ct K VVS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4494031

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 2.041 carat K color VVS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4494031

www.whiteflash.com

 

[Karl_K]

Hi Karl. Here is (I believe) what you asked for. What do you think?

Its a very well cut stone but just a bit off from top of the line.
While not technically perfect it would make for a beautiful diamond for someone.
I would not pay super-ideal prices for it but at a price under that its worth it.

 

[Sperry8]

Its a very well cut stone but just a bit off from top of the line.
While not technically perfect it would make for a beautiful diamond for someone.
I would not pay super-ideal prices for it but at a price under that its worth it.

Thank you Karl. Sincerely appreciated!
What would you consider a super-ideal price to be (so I can be sure I'm paying under that)?

Oh, and my original question was re Gemex. The report for this stone shows High and Very High overall marks. However, the 5 light views don't show as crazy bright (to me), esp views 3 & 5. The jeweler said those photos are less important than the overall scores at the bars on top. Is that true? Or is it better to look at the 3 photos you requested (vs Gemex) to identify the ultimate sparkle of a stone?

 

[Karl_K]

Thank you Karl. Sincerely appreciated!
What would you consider a super-ideal price to be (so I can be sure I'm paying under that)?

Oh, and my original question was re Gemex. The report for this stone shows High and Very High overall marks. However, the 5 light views don't show as crazy bright (to me), esp views 3 & 5. The jeweler said those photos are less important than the overall scores at the bars on top. Is that true? Or is it better to look at the 3 photos you requested (vs Gemex) to identify the ultimate sparkle of a stone?

I would just ignore the gemex entirely.

You can use the picescope search engine above and see where it falls in price relative to other diamonds with similar specs. Any WF aca listed would be super ideal.
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[DejaWiz]

About $15.1-17.4k is the range I'm seeing for 2.00-2.09 J VVS2 Faint GIA 3X

If you're OK with bumping down to K color to get a bona fide SIC with intention to upgrade to a higher color grade in the future (this or that amazingly proportioned 1.93 that musicloveranthony posted earlier):

Diamond | 2.113 ct K VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4529766

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 2.113 carat K color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4529766

www.whiteflash.com

 

[Sperry8]

About $15.1-17.4k is the range I'm seeing for 2.00-2.09 J VVS2 Faint GIA 3X

Thanks - looks like for the price they are requesting they are right in the middle of the range, so it's a decent enough deal for a nice, but not super ideal stone.

I sincerely appreciate the time you all took out of your days to help a newbie. Thank you all.

 

[DejaWiz]

Thanks - looks like for the price they are requesting they are right in the middle of the range, so it's a decent enough deal for a nice, but not super ideal stone.

I sincerely appreciate the time you all took out of your days to help a newbie. Thank you all.

It's my pleasure and you're very welcome!
Karl_K - thanks for your in-depth analysis and insight so that Sperry8 can make the best decision possible.