Is this diamond good value?

[Scooter_Braun]

I'm currently searching for a diamond for an engagement ring. I am setting it in a gold solitaire band, so I am willing to go down on colour quite a bit. I've attached the GIA report, the diamond costs $4900 USD.

 

[Snowdrop13]

No! HCA is 5.1, it would be a pass for me.

Here‘s a better cut,

1.30 Carat K VS2 Round Brilliant Natural Diamond GIA Certified Affinity Cut - D45347768

1.30 carat, Round, K Color, VS2 clarity, GIA Certified Diamond, Affinity Cut Natural Diamond, D45347768

www.adiamor.com

 

[anangel]

It’s inexpensive, but the angles aren’t great, I don’t like that it has inclusions and the table, and additional clouds noted on the cert. it’s on the cusp of deep too so it’s facing up small for the carat weight.
it is cheap? Yes. Is it a good value? Not if you’re looking for an eye clean diamond with good visual performance.

 

[tyty333]

No, its not a good value. @Snowdrop13 found you a well-cut stone with better clarity and a lower price tag.

 

[Scooter_Braun]

I'm Canadian which vendor would be best for me to use?

 

[OoohShiny]

Martin Sheffield is in Canada and is a Pricescope-recommended vendor, but all of the recommended vendors can ship to you (but you may need to account for import tax and/or VAT within your budget if you buy from the USA).

You can use the diamond search tool at the top of the forum to compare prices and options.

(Martin is 'USA Certed' in the listings.)

This link will show you the diamonds in the listings under USD5000 and over 1.2ct / M colour / SI1 clarity, which are within the generally-recommended parameters (to get you close to 'super-ideal territory') and with Excellent (<2.0) Holloway Cut Advisor scores:
https://www.pricescope.com/diamonds/XR96pb

This one from the listings is very close to your stone, but much (much!) better cut and light performance, and the same diameter (because your stone is a steep/deep stone):

1.23 Carat round diamond

This True Hearts TM diamond, 1.23 carat K color vs2 clarity has ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from AGS

www.jamesallen.com

 

[Scooter_Braun]

Thanks for all the input, I'm a newbie and looking for the best diamond within my budget for my future wife! I was not aware of HCA before posting this thread.

 

[OoohShiny]

Thanks for all the input, I'm a newbie and looking for the best diamond within my budget for my future wife! I was not aware of HCA before posting this thread.

It is a very useful too for evaluating whether a (Modern Round Brilliant) diamond's angles work together

I think you get three? free goes of it (it's under the Tools dropdown at the top of the forum) so using the search tool as already linked means you can sift out stones that have good scores straight away without needing to use it for every one

You can stretch the score to mid-2s and still have excellent light return - those stones just need more analysis to make sure they work (There is also debate amongst the professionals on here about whether deeper stones with higher scores are preferable - but it gets a bit complex! lol)

 

[stonehunter20]

my first time seeing a 5.1! definitely a pass. speaking of vendors, there are many that ship internationally. did you checkout whiteflash aca line? it's worth checking it out and it will blow your mind!

 

[jp201845]

I'm Canadian which vendor would be best for me to use?

Where in Canada are you from ? As recommended by @OoohShiny Martin Sheffield from USA Certed Diamonds is based out of Toronto and can help you find a great stone within your budget. He is a recommended vendor on this forum and has great reviews in the Testimonials section.

 

[Scooter_Braun]

What would be the best value out of these 3 diamonds?

1.32 Carat round diamond

This 1.32 carat round diamond K color vs1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.31 Carat round diamond

This True Hearts TM diamond, 1.31 carat K color si1 clarity has ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from AGS

www.jamesallen.com

1.23 Carat round diamond

This True Hearts TM diamond, 1.23 carat K color vs2 clarity has ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from AGS

www.jamesallen.com

They all seem so similar, is there a huge difference between the cuts on the excellent cut, and the true hearts?

 

[lovedogs]

What would be the best value out of these 3 diamonds?

1.32 Carat round diamond

This 1.32 carat round diamond K color vs1 clarity has Excellent proportions and a diamond grading report from GIA

www.jamesallen.com

1.31 Carat round diamond

This True Hearts TM diamond, 1.31 carat K color si1 clarity has ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from AGS

www.jamesallen.com

1.23 Carat round diamond

This True Hearts TM diamond, 1.23 carat K color vs2 clarity has ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from AGS

www.jamesallen.com

They all seem so similar, is there a huge difference between the cuts on the excellent cut, and the true hearts?

Please post the certificates for all 3. From the pics/video I like the 1.31 the best but I want to see the certificates

 

[Scooter_Braun]

Please post the certificates for all 3. From the pics/video I like the 1.31 the best but I want to see the certificates

 

[new-beginning]

I'm currently searching for a diamond for an engagement ring. I am setting it in a gold solitaire band, so I am willing to go down on colour quite a bit. I've attached the GIA report, the diamond costs $4900 USD.

Is the future wife really gonna be happy with the color diamonds you are considering?

 

[lovedogs]

I like the 1.3 the best by far, but it's important that you know your future wife's color tolerance, etc.

 

[Scooter_Braun]

I like the 1.3 the best by far, but it's important that you know your future wife's color tolerance, etc.

It's going to be set in yellow gold/ yellow prongs, I feel like a higher colour diamond will look yellow in that type of setting anyways?

 

[123ducklings]

It's going to be set in yellow gold/ yellow prongs, I feel like a higher colour diamond will look yellow in that type of setting anyways?

Not always; it’s common use white gold heads and prongs on yellow gold rings to try to avoid the effect you’re describing. That said, if the wearer prefers the warmth of yellow gold a well-cut K can look lovely and plenty bright. I would focus on cut. Some people advise when shopping for J-L diamonds to look for a stone with faint to medium blue fluorescence because it can make the stone appear brighter/whiter. Your mileage may vary.

 

[mwilliamanderson]

Please post the certificates for all 3. From the pics/video I like the 1.31 the best but I want to see the certificates

Good eye @lovedogs! You picked the tolk without seeing numbers

 

[lovedogs]

Good eye @lovedogs! You picked the tolk without seeing numbers

lol after years here I might be FINALLY able to trust my eye rather than needing cert + pics.

 

[mwilliamanderson]

lol after years here I might be FINALLY able to trust my eye rather than needing cert + pics.

That’s awesome! Careful though, developing that give could be expensive.

BTW, I vote for the 1.31 first, followed by the 1.32 and it’s a no to the 1.23.

 

[Scooter_Braun]

Thanks for all the input! Just trying to make an informed purchase

 

[mcosme]

If in budget a CBI would be a top performer

https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD10942

 

[Scooter_Braun]

Im really starting to pull out my hair here, so many options, what are your opinions on these two?

1.37 Carat round diamond

This True Hearts TM diamond, 1.37 carat K color vvs2 clarity has ideal proportions and a diamond grading report from AGS

www.jamesallen.com

Diamond | 1.350 ct K VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4226212

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.350 carat K color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4226212

www.whiteflash.com

 

[Scooter_Braun]

Also this one

Diamond | 1.406 ct K VS2 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 3568734

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.406 carat K color VS2 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 3568734

www.whiteflash.com

 

[Mavimaui]

Newbie here... but from my research I’d pass on the JA stone, the crown angle is a bit shallow and table a bit large. The others are similar to me, and there’s a few others on their site that are also similar to the two you listed, so I will let the pros chime in on that.

the HPD stone would be a great one, not sure if you were looking for something a bit larger or if you saw that one Or what your budget is?

 

[mwilliamanderson]

I agree, I’d pass on the JA because of the proportions. The Whiteflash and HPD are both winners.

 

[mcosme]

Can't go wrong with WF or HPD

The good thing is they both have awesome upgrade policies so if you ever want to go for a higher color or larger you have that option!

 

[Scooter_Braun]

I ended up going with a J from WF, thanks for all the advice everyone!

This is the stone BTW

Diamond | 1.243 ct J SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4166403

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.243 carat J color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4166403

www.whiteflash.com

Do you think I have anything to worry about with the additional clouding that's mentioned in AGS report?

 

[mcosme]

I ended up going with a J from WF, thanks for all the advice everyone!

This is the stone BTW

Diamond | 1.243 ct J SI1 A CUT ABOVE® Hearts and Arrows Super Ideal Round Cut Loose Diamond AGS Certified | 4166403

This Whiteflash A CUT ABOVE® super ideal cut hearts and arrows 1.243 carat J color SI1 clarity loose diamond is graded by the American Gem Society (AGS) Laboratories. | 4166403

www.whiteflash.com

Do you think I have anything to worry about with the additional clouding that's mentioned in AGS report?

What did WF say about the clouds? Generally that wording is a bit scary for me but I would trust their word

 

[Scooter_Braun]

What did WF say about the clouds? Generally that wording is a bit scary for me but I would trust their word

What questions should I ask about the clouding?