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AR1631

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Hi there,
Just looking for some opinions on this H&A image of a .65ct Round Diamond, GIA triple ex, E Color, VVS2 Clarity
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Thanks in advance!
 

girlguineapig

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This diamond isn't even close to true H&A. But H&A photos don't necessarily tell us anything about light return. Can you get us the pavilion angle, crown angle, depth %, and table % for this stone? Also let us know your budget and what range of stats you're looking for.

Here a few nice diamonds. But let us know your specifications and we can help you more.
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3483193.htm?source=pricescope
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3684101.htm?source=pricescope
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.70-carat-f-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2096536
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond-search/0.58-ascendancy_heart_arrows-I-AGS-E-VVS2-diamond-stock-11752-cert-104069421004
 

AR1631

Rough_Rock
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girlguineapig|1474925711|4081010 said:
This diamond isn't even close to true H&A. But H&A photos don't necessarily tell us anything about light return. Can you get us the pavilion angle, crown angle, depth %, and table % for this stone? Also let us know your budget and what range of stats you're looking for.

Here a few nice diamonds. But let us know your specifications and we can help you more.
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3483193.htm?source=pricescope
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3684101.htm?source=pricescope
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.70-carat-f-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2096536
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond-search/0.58-ascendancy_heart_arrows-I-AGS-E-VVS2-diamond-stock-11752-cert-104069421004
Thanks for the insight. Here is a link to the diamond in the pictures: http://www.brilliantearth.com/rings/cyorings/view_diamond/2563514/?sid=

Crown Angle: 35.5
Pavilion Angle: 41
Depth: 62.6%
Table: 57%

My budget is about CAD $4500 (US $3400). I am looking for a Canadian round diamond 0.63-0.69Carats, E-F color, VS1 or better clarity and excellent cut. I noticed some members on this forum are recommending it is not necessary to have such high color/clarity/Candian sourcing - but these are important to me for bragging rights to my fiance :D

Also the diamond has to be from Brilliant Earth as our setting is from there and we are upgrading the diamond. It seems pretty much all of their diamonds that fit my specs aren't in the ideal range with regards to the HCA score - they seem to have crown/pavilion angles like 35/41, 35.5/41 etc (I believe this is called 'steep/deep).
 

girlguineapig

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Hmmm. That one is pretty deep. I am not an expert so am not sure what I would recommend out of the few Canadian diamonds available.

Both of these ones from Russia have good numbers and the first one has a really nice photo:
http://www.brilliantearth.com/loose-diamonds/view_detail/2554790/
http://www.brilliantearth.com/loose-diamonds/view_detail/2612074/

Since this is an upgrade, maybe you can ask them to notify you when something matching your criteria with the following numbers comes up?
Depth % 60-62.0 (up to 62.2 may be okay)
Table % 53-58 (53-57 may be a little safer)
Girdle T-M-ST
Culet N-P
Crown Angle 34-35
Pavilion Angle 40.6-41 (some prefer 40.6-40.9)

Let us know your thoughts. Hopefully someone else can advise you on the best of the Canadian diamonds available at Brilliant Earth.
 

AR1631

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girlguineapig|1475001591|4081331 said:
Hmmm. That one is pretty deep. I am not an expert so am not sure what I would recommend out of the few Canadian diamonds available.

Both of these ones from Russia have good numbers and the first one has a really nice photo:
http://www.brilliantearth.com/loose-diamonds/view_detail/2554790/
http://www.brilliantearth.com/loose-diamonds/view_detail/2612074/

Since this is an upgrade, maybe you can ask them to notify you when something matching your criteria with the following numbers comes up?
Depth % 60-62.0 (up to 62.2 may be okay)
Table % 53-58 (53-57 may be a little safer)
Girdle T-M-ST
Culet N-P
Crown Angle 34-35
Pavilion Angle 40.6-41 (some prefer 40.6-40.9)

Let us know your thoughts. Hopefully someone else can advise you on the best of the Canadian diamonds available at Brilliant Earth.
Thanks for sharing your insight! The first one seems pretty good, even though the crown angle is 35.5. Seems like the 35.5/40.6 combo scores well on the HCA but 35/41 doesn't. The second one has 'strong florescence' which combined with E color is apparently a bad combination and can make the diamond look hazy.

I found this one that seems to have slightly better proportions. I have requested images to verify.
http://www.brilliantearth.com/rings/cyorings/view_diamond/2703126/?sid=1151387
 

ac117

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arjunrattan|1475070713|4081615 said:
I found this one that seems to have slightly better proportions. I have requested images to verify.
http://www.brilliantearth.com/rings/cyorings/view_diamond/2703126/?sid=1151387
The angles on this one are not complimentary. As the crown angle goes up, the pavilion angle should come down. So a crown angle of 35 or 35.5 will work better with a pavilion angle of 40.6. A pavilion angle of 41 goes better with a shallower crown angle of 33.5 or 34.

These two are both only $20 over your budget but fit the rest of your criteria and have very nice, safe numbers. I took a look through the rest of their inventory and a lot of their stones don't have complimentary angles:
http://www.brilliantearth.com/loose-diamonds/view_detail/2670036/

http://www.brilliantearth.com/loose-diamonds/view_detail/2622417/
 

AR1631

Rough_Rock
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ac117|1475072575|4081621 said:
arjunrattan|1475070713|4081615 said:
I found this one that seems to have slightly better proportions. I have requested images to verify.
http://www.brilliantearth.com/rings/cyorings/view_diamond/2703126/?sid=1151387
The angles on this one are not complimentary. As the crown angle goes up, the pavilion angle should come down. So a crown angle of 35 or 35.5 will work better with a pavilion angle of 40.6. A pavilion angle of 41 goes better with a shallower crown angle of 33.5 or 34.

These two are both only $20 over your budget but fit the rest of your criteria and have very nice, safe numbers. I took a look through the rest of their inventory and a lot of their stones don't have complimentary angles:
http://www.brilliantearth.com/loose-diamonds/view_detail/2670036/

http://www.brilliantearth.com/loose-diamonds/view_detail/2622417/
Thanks for those suggestions. I did see those ones but both have 'internal graining' and/or surface graining. Is that something to be concerned with? I noticed a post on here where a user noticed internal graining lines on a VVS Clarity diamond.
 
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