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Jonnie

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I went to a jeweler who my bother bought his engagement ring from, because he was very happy, and he showed me several different stones. I know nothing about diamonds but want to make sure I am buying a quality diamond, how would you rate the following, and what price would you guess is fair:

GIA certified
Round Diamond
Color: E
Carat: 1.25
Depth: 59.3%
Table: 58%
Flourescence: Medium Blue
Girdle: Ext thin to medium, faceted
Culet: None
Polish: Godd
Symmetry: Very Good
Clarity: SI1
 

Giangi

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Hi jonnie and welcome!!!!!!

Your stone has an ext thin to med girdle, and this isn't a good thing. An ext thin girdle can be dangerous during the setting process and there is a chipping risk. Try to find out if the girdle is so thin in just a little place or if it's quite thin all around.
Otherwise, the cut looks good. BUT, you have to ask for a Sarin or OGI report, which will tell you all the proportions that aren't listed on the cert.


Best of Luck!
 

Jonnie

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thanks for the note, I appreciate it. would that be considered and ideal or premium cut, what would it be classified at? Also, he offered it to me for $6500, is that ok?
 

Giangi

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The price is VERY GOOD, and especially if you're buying locally.
Unfortunately, without knowing more cut details, I can't give you an opinion on the cut. But it can't be a true ideal. It should have Ex/Ex finish. That doesn't mean it could be a very nice stone. Did it look good to you?
 

Giangi

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Ooooooooooooooops! Double post!
 

Jonnie

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Well, it looked great to me, but I am not very experienced when it comes to diamonds, but he put it against and 1.58 carat H color that was a premium cut (said on the certificate) and the color looked so much better because it was an E, but the size was smaller. The H he offered me at $7600. I know most women look for a bigger rock, but I prefer quality, so it is confusing. They both were SI1.
 

Giangi

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If the cert said premium cut, then it's an EGL Israel!! Aaaaaaah! Be extremely careful , as it may very easily be an I-I 1! They're very aggressive on their grading. Stick with GIA, AGS, HRD or even IGI Antwerp for maximum accurancy.
 

caratgirl

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Hi Jonnie,

Why don't you make the sale contingent on an independent appraisal? If you don't go all-out and just get the cut, color and clarity critiqued it shouldn't run more than $75.00 (even in LA, using one of the recommended appraisers on Pricescope). That is, if you really like the stone...
 

gman246

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Hey-

I agree, the ex. thin girdle could be dangerous via chipping & during setting process.

The price is very good. See my post about the E-SI1 I just bought (gman246) for the Rapp price...basically, looks like you are getting a 20% discount. From what I understand, dealers get between 30-40% discount depending on the stone, their suppliers, etc... Some resell at 15% discount, a better price is 20%, and very difficult to get is 25-30%. So you got a very nice price....although you could push for 25% after you mention your dissatisfaction w/ the girdle and the medium fluorescence (most people prefer 'none' these days, but medium may be favorable to some folks as well, it's subjective).

Good luck!!!
 
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